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baydude

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Does anyone see anything wrong with Biden’s sons actions and Joe Biden stating publicly he threaten to pull aid if they didn’t stop investigating his son?
 

zinfamous

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If what has been accused actually happened, let's get it out in the open. Right now there is a lot of speculation and truth of it, or to the contrary would serve us all well.

Or you know, the WH actually offering up documetned evidence that it is all true, under their own approval.

There is that. Look, we get it: you're stupid. You are trying to argue that they possibly made a fake transcript in order to "incriminate themselves" in some sort of high-level "gotcha!" for the democrats. We get it. You are making an...argument that seems to sway on whether or not dumbing your way into crime isn't a crime if you didn't intend to do it all along.

that is literally what you are arguing.
 

JEDIYoda

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Does anyone see anything wrong with Biden’s sons actions and Joe Biden stating publicly he threaten to pull aid if they didn’t stop investigating his son?
You being an idiot!! No!! Because Joe Biden was not using that to get dirt or get asn advantage for the up coming election!! There is a big difference!!! The word -- deflection comes to mind...….also FOX news last night at least according to CNN used that same argument......hahaha
 

zinfamous

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Does anyone see anything wrong with Biden’s sons actions and Joe Biden stating publicly he threaten to pull aid if they didn’t stop investigating his son?

you're perpetuating proven lies. Nothing here actually happened. It is not worth entertaining your question if you actually think this is what happened.
 

baydude

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You being an idiot!! No!! Because Joe Biden was not using that to get dirt or get asn advantage for the up coming election!! There is a big difference!!! The word -- deflection comes to mind...….also FOX news last night at least according to CNN used that same argument......hahaha

So it is not wrong of Joe Biden to threaten to pull money from Ukraine if they don’t stop investigating his son?
 

baydude

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you're perpetuating proven lies. Nothing here actually happened. It is not worth entertaining your question if you actually think this is what happened.

How would you summarize what Biden said publicly about Ukraine aid?
 

cytg111

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So it is not wrong of Joe Biden to threaten to pull money from Ukraine if they don’t stop investigating his son?

For half a second lets imagine that was true.
And that Donald knew there was kompromat there to get to.
Does that not make it even worse?
 

theeedude

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That prosecutor was too corrupt and political even for Ukraine, he was like their Bill Barr.
There were street protests to remove him, and their parliament voted to fire him, which was widely celebrated.
Ukraine’s parliament voted overwhelmingly to fire Viktor Shokin, ridding the beleaguered prosecutor’s office of a figure who is accused of blocking major cases against allies and influential figures and stymying moves to root out graft.
 
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zinfamous

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So it is not wrong of Joe Biden to threaten to pull money from Ukraine if they don’t stop investigating his son?

put up or shut up, ass. This is a known lie.

Why are you asking people their opinions of a known lie?

How about this: yes, I agree that you're a fool. Now ask an honest question.
 

JEDIYoda

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So it is not wrong of Joe Biden to threaten to pull money from Ukraine if they don’t stop investigating his son?
You are at best (if it happened at all) mischaracterizing what happened by leaving out other facts that turn this into a diversion from the actual laws that your Lord and Savior Donald Trump perpetrated!!
 

hal2kilo

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That prosecutor was too corrupt and political even for Ukraine, he was like their Bill Barr.
There were street protests to remove him, and their parliament voted to fire him, which was widely celebrated.

He was universally considered to be corrupt by more than the US.
 
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ewdotson

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How would you summarize what Biden said publicly about Ukraine aid?
State, the EU and the IMF all wanted Shokin out because he *wasn't* prosecuting corruption. *That* was the message that Biden was delivering.
 

hal2kilo

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First, as I sit here watching multiple news outlets on cable, ITS NOT A TRANSCRIPT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's notes on the call. I trust this as much as the prerelease by Barr of the Mueller report, which claimed multiple untruths like no collusion, no obstruction.

Uh oh, numb nuts is speaking now.
 

JEDIYoda

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First, as I sit here watching multiple news outlets on cable, ITS NOT A TRANSCRIPT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's notes on the call. I trust this as much as the prerelease by Barr of the Mueller report, which claimed multiple untruths like no collusion, no obstruction.

Uh oh, numb nuts is speaking now.
I would be willing to bet you that is all we get!!
The originasl recording if there ever was one is most likely gone!!
You take what you get a run with it!
But let me point out along with a recording quite a bit of the time there is somebody there copying everything that is said in short hand, and that person is also fluent in ewhatever language is being used.
I would not put it past Trump to have shit canned all originals.
Yet they can subpoena the person who was in the room and listening to appear!
 

Hayabusa Rider

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First, as I sit here watching multiple news outlets on cable, ITS NOT A TRANSCRIPT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's notes on the call. I trust this as much as the prerelease by Barr of the Mueller report, which claimed multiple untruths like no collusion, no obstruction.

Uh oh, numb nuts is speaking now.

Wow he's off reality more than usual
 

hal2kilo

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The whistle blower report has been released to the Senate. Not sure about the HOR.
Now it's time to pay attention.