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TPP Fast track

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This is one problem I have with it. Admittedly its from leaked documents, labeling requirements Country of origin will be gone and if a company like Purina wants to label they may get fined because it implies its food is safer for pets.
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I'm against Chinese pet food because they have a history of cutting corners and not inspecting thus the pet food ends up containing something crazy like arsenic.
I know China is not part of the TPP but I'd like to know where food comes from.
 
Hidden from view to the general public in most all of these trade and trade related deals are clauses that would have made pols from both parties gasp only 40 years ago. But, after decades of these insane deals and after billions have been spent buying pols from both parties, the business types pushing these deals feel they can do anything they want and get away with it.

The evolution of big money in politics over the last 40 years and particularly the last 23 years has largely eliminated the troublesome part of our democracy -- the stupid fucking voters. Pacify them with bullshit or wedge them away from the polls and a few can and do control everything.

The idea that a business can be penalized for labeling the country of origin is a blatant effort to mask where things come from. This is kind of like the labeling equivalent of Citizen United in that it further aides in hiding where things are coming from. In this case hiding where a product is coming from versus hiding where political funding is coming from.


Brian
 
Government of the people, by the people, for the people, is a quaint notion -- a thing of the past. These trade deals and other laws transfer an ever greater amount of power away from elected officials and to business interests you and I have no control over.

The dems expect to spend about $2.5B for president this election cycle and we can expect the repubs to be in the same ballpark so we could see $5B spent on mostly negative TV advertising -- yikes!


Brian
 
Government of the people, by the people, for the people, is a quaint notion -- a thing of the past. These trade deals and other laws transfer an ever greater amount of power away from elected officials and to business interests you and I have no control over.

The dems expect to spend about $2.5B for president this election cycle and we can expect the repubs to be in the same ballpark so we could see $5B spent on mostly negative TV advertising -- yikes!

Brian
They also transfer a lot of power to the unelected bureaucracy.

Look at the bright side - this election cycle will be great for video games, movies and services like Hulu or Amazon Prime. I'm betting that $5 billion will buy more negative adverts than a LOT of people can stomach.
 
If you do not like this trade deal and how its proceeding go here:

f you care AT ALL about runaway corporate power, I really need you to take action today.

Congress is about to let President Barack Obama sign a disastrous trade deal that will make the world’s largest corporations more powerful than they’ve ever been.

Email your representative RIGHT NOW to stop this disaster before it’s too late.

http://action.citizen.org/p/dia/action3/common/public/?action_KEY=12826

Tomorrow, the U.S. House of Representatives will vote on “Fast Track” authority. Fast Track would railroad the Trans-Pacific Partnership, or TPP — a 12-nation trade pact that makes NAFTA seem practically quaint — through Congress.

And the vote in the House is too close to call.

The Senate already voted to revive this extreme Nixon-era procedure that Congress has rejected for all but five of the past 20 years.

Tomorrow’s vote in the House is our last chance to stop Fast Track and save ourselves from the disastrous TPP.

Make sure your representative votes “No!” on Fast Track. The vote will be so close that your representative could literally make the difference!

Fast Track would let President Obama enter the U.S. into the TPP before the text of the deal is made public or Congress approves its contents. Then it would guarantee a vote on the done deal in 90 days with all amendments banned.

And this overreaching power would be delegated to whoever is president for the next six years — for any and all trade deals he or she may cook up.

It is no exaggeration to say that what happens with Fast Track and the TPP will shape our future.

The TPP would give Big Business unprecedented new powers.

Fast Tracking the TPP would make it easier to offshore our jobs and push down our wages by throwing Americans into competition with workers in Vietnam making less than 60 cents an hour.

It would flood us with unsafe imported food, increase fracking, roll back Wall Street regulation, and on and on and on.

Getting Fast Track and passing the TPP is the number one priority of Big Business in this Congress.

Why else would corporate shills like John Boehner, Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan be FOR this bad deal while progressives like Elizabeth Warren, Al Franken and Bernie Sanders are helping us fight it?

Please take one minute to take this simple action while there’s still time.

We can win this — if we all act together. Right now.

Onward,

Robert Weissman
President, Public Citizen


Or here:

We have one last chance to stop Fast Track on trade – right now! The House has scheduled a vote for Friday, and dozens of members of Congress are still undecided (or undeclared) about which way they will vote.

Will you take a minute right now to call your representative’s office and tell him or her to vote NO on Fast Track?

Click here look up your representative’s phone number.
http://www.house.gov/representatives/

As a quick recap: Right now, the President is finishing up the Trans-Pacific Partnership, a trade deal covering 40% of the world’s economy. It was negotiated with the help of 28 working groups, but here’s the scary part: 85% of the people in those groups are corporate executives or corporate lobbyists. I’m not against trade – but a tilted process produces a tilted product, and I’m really worried about a trade deal that works for big, multinational corporations and leaves everyone else in the dirt.

We saw what has happened to American jobs under trade deals like NAFTA: a million lost jobs and stagnant wages for decades. President Obama says this time it’s different – but you can’t see the deal. It’s classified. The Administration will release the text to the public only after Congress passes Fast Track.

What does that mean? Before you are allowed to see the giant Asia trade deal, Congress must voluntarily give up its power to offer amendments and sharply reduce its ability to block a bad deal. So, for example, if this TPP deal includes a dangerous ISDS provision that would let multinational corporations effectively challenge American laws outside of American courts, our hands would be tied.

Also, Fast Track wouldn’t apply to just this one TPP deal. It would apply to ANY trade deal cut by ANY President for the next six years. So if one of the anti-worker, climate-change-denying, Wall-Street accountability-hating Republicans gets elected President, they would have the same Fast Track power to ram bad trade deals that undermine our laws through Congress just 18 months from now.

It’s just plain irresponsible to sign a six-year Fast Track agreement – and to sign away our right to fix the TPP before the public has seen the deal.

It only takes a minute or two to look up your member of Congress, call his or her office, and tell the person who answers the phone: “Hello, I’m Steve from Marlborough, and I’m calling to urge him/her to vote NO on trade Fast Track. Do you know how he/she is planning on voting?”

Can we count on you to make one final call to your representative before Friday’s vote? Click here to look up the phone number now.

Thank you for being a part of this,

Elizabeth

P.S. Even though labor unions, environmental groups, human rights groups, legal experts, and many others oppose Fast Track, trade doesn’t fall neatly in a Republican category or Democratic category. Some Democrats will vote for Fast Track – and some Republicans will vote against it. No matter where you live, no matter who represents you, please make your voice heard. Please call your representative now and tell him or her to vote NO on Fast Track.

P.P.S. Think about family, friends, and neighbors who may not get these emails. Think about the folks you know in other states. Ask if they would call. Forward any part of this email – we need the help. This is how online grassroots democracy really works.

Last chance
 
Stop being defeatist and write your Senator and Representative.

Defeatist? This country is defeated. Even if this somehow manages to be blocked, 90% of the people who voted for it will be returned to office. People will continue to vote for the likes of Obama, McCain, Bush, Romney. People will still pretend like there is some significant difference between democrats and republicans, and argue idiotically over one vs the other. The American people are the definition of defeatist. They vote for their own destitution every time. Anyone who voted for Obomney but somehow gets their panties ruffled over TPP is nothing but a hypocritte. You got what you wanted, now wallow in it.
 
This is a vote for Corporate Sovereignty. For business to officially supersede American law. For Congress to surrender all authority and to effectively end the United States government as you know it.

You'll notice all the supporters are Bush-style Neocons. That's no coincidence, and Obama is one of them. You know what he has done and tried in the Middle East. His march to war in Syria. The arming of "rebels". You cannot deny his political affiliation.

This Neocon agenda that they vote for today is antithetical to American democracy and liberty. Regardless of the bill today, we the American people MUST vote every single supporter out of office. Fail to remove them and they will keep acting in the interests they serve today. Every day they hold office is another day they put our country at risk.

O'Malley Rallies Opposition to 'Fast Track' Trade Law
If Republicans nominate another Neocon, I will vote for O'Malley.
 
Is Obama now not a democrat? Did he not go to congress to pass it? Is he not lobbing house democratic members to pass it?

Obama wants maximum authority for himself, as does any president. But if you enjoy pointing fingers at Obama rather than holding your own party accountable, then enjoy TPP, because you will get it.
 
Guys it doesn't matter which party is more for it or against it. The only thing that matters is who supports it. You'll have a hard time tracking down a list like that because everyone likes to avoid the subject. Hence why fast track should fail we need all our representatives talking more about what they want to accomplish not hide deals in procedure so if it works you can claim you supported it and if it fails you can claim you didn't support it.
 
Obama wants maximum authority for himself, as does any president. But if you enjoy pointing fingers at Obama rather than holding your own party accountable, then enjoy TPP, because you will get it.

Funny you are telling me to hold my party accountable, when you are excusing the behavior of your parties leader.

Cant ever blame Obama can you?
 
Obama wants maximum authority for himself, as does any president. But if you enjoy pointing fingers at Obama rather than holding your own party accountable, then enjoy TPP, because you will get it.
Obama wants it, the Democrats do not.

And it has now failed:thumbsup:

Pass to read it should never be applied. It shafted the country once; no more:|
 
Obama wants it, the Democrats do not.

And it has now failed:thumbsup:

Pass to read it should never be applied. It shafted the country once; no more:|

agree. if anything it should be against the law to have such shit.


also i hope it now comes out so the public can actually see what it is.
 
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