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should pats lose their spot to colts in the superbowl?

  • yes

  • no

  • RG3 is better than Luck


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cubby1223

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That's right. The Patriot's fanbase has spoken. The NFL handed down a punishment because they are an irrational entity hellbent on punishing success. Nothing else to see here. Move along. All Hail Tom!

:p

Your team cheated their way to victory. Accept it. Move on.
 

rudeguy

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it's where everyone falls back, you nincompoop.

"it doesn't matter what anyone else did or is doing. this is about you"

the problem is selective enforcement of poorly structured rules. it's become obvious that ball pressure in the nfl was a free-for-all among all teams, so why is 1 team singled out (with assistance from a rival that was found to be committing the same offense at the same time, without punishment)?

the problem is with the league, but the league wants nothing to do with mea culpa.

Don't worry. The max that can happen is a $25k fine.
 
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Don't worry. The max that can happen is a $25k fine.

Your team cheated their way to victory. Accept it. Move on.

repeating something means you're right!


Easy there Captain. I'm just trying to understand things.

no, you're trolling. you're argument is emotionally driven by the need to shit on a sports team and its fans, and not by logic.



still waiting on answer for this:
Most of your Superbowl victories have controversies surrounding them. Just accept it.
 
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Tuck rule game. Spygate. Deflategate.

We understand, you are a devoted fan of your team. Get over yourself. Nobody likes being around whiny sport jocks.

it took you that long to come up with a current topic and 2 wrong answers?

get over myself? because i called you on your clearly bullshit statement, i have something to get over?

i am, and have been called many things, but this is a first for "whiny sport jock"
 

cubby1223

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May 24, 2004
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it took you that long to come up with a current topic and 2 wrong answers?
No, the simpler answer is I don't care enough about you to read every post of yours in this thread :p If you've been calling me out for some time, sorry, I didn't see those. You are not that important.
 

smackababy

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Tuck rule game. Spygate. Deflategate.

We understand, you are a devoted fan of your team. Get over yourself. Nobody likes being around whiny sport jocks.

You do realize the tuck rule was initially started by the Jets right? But, of course, the Patriots invented the rule and somehow are evil. Especially, considering it was Tom Brady's first fucking real game where it happened.
 

emperus

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You do realize the tuck rule was initially started by the Jets right? But, of course, the Patriots invented the rule and somehow are evil. Especially, considering it was Tom Brady's first fucking real game where it happened.

Yeah, the game was called properly. The tuck rule was an actual written rule (stupid nonetheless) that the refs properly enforced. What's ironic is that the Tuck Rule initially hurt the patriots in that earlier Jets game you mentioned. I remember watching that Jets game thinking wtf... But noone said a peep about it until.. well it helped the Pats. And we have silly people (cubby1223) still bringing it up without an understanding of what they are talking about...
 

emperus

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Yeah, he's silly and bringing stupid shit up.

Or he's speaking the same as the people actually involved in the event still are.


http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-o...son-on-tuck-rule-game-brady-owes-me-his-house

You might have wanted to read the link you posted...

2) Game referee Walt Coleman DID make the correct call after watching the fumble/incomplete pass on replay, though he did a poor job explaining it. That was the NFL rule at the time, though, thankfully, that rule has since been stricken from the books. So, if Woodson wants to blame anybody, he should blame the NFL owners for allowing such a rule to exist in the first place.

This is my problem with all this stuff. The Group Think is amazingly scary.
 

BUTCH1

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Yeah, he's silly and bringing stupid shit up.

Or he's speaking the same as the people actually involved in the event still are.


http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-o...son-on-tuck-rule-game-brady-owes-me-his-house


The part I'm not getting is people not understanding the Ref's made the call, now I won't even delve into the "tuck" rule itself or if it was properly called in that game but to accuse the Pat's of "cheating" because a Ref made a call on the field is about as utterly moronic as it gets. Woodson should just shut the fuck up for once BECAUSE BRADY OWES YOU NOTHING, HE DID NOT MAKE THAT CALL, HE DID NOT ASK THE REF TO MAKE THAT CALL, why isn't Woodson angry with Walt Coleman who WAS THE ONE THAT MADE IT A "TUCK" CALL. Then to to drape moron on moron he continues on as if without that call Brady would never, ever have found success in his career, really? because of that call Brady possesses the highest win % of ANY NFL QB past and present. Meanwhile the "tuck" call enabled the Pats to tie that game and force OT, in OT Raiders won the toss, got the ball, AND DID NOTHING. Then the Pats had to drive into FG range for the winner, the Raiders were again afforded several opportunities to stop the Patriot offense AND THEY DID NOTHING...get a life fucking winier.
 

BUTCH1

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That's right. The Patriot's fanbase has spoken. The NFL handed down a punishment because they are an irrational entity hellbent on punishing success. Nothing else to see here. Move along. All Hail Tom!

:p

Your team cheated their way to victory. Accept it. Move on.

Let's just say for argument's sake that the "OMG!" 1/2Lb of PSI was indeed removed from the balls in the AFCCG, what part of 45-7 do you not understand? if the "cheating" was so important a factor how did the Colts (with the ball's corrected at halftime) continue to get curb-stomped 28-0 in that 2nd half?. Yup, rules were probably broken, relevancy to game outcome?, NONE.
 

lupi

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You might have wanted to read the link you posted...



This is my problem with all this stuff. The Group Think is amazingly scary.

Couldn't care less what was actually in the article, you attempted to chide someone for referencing the event when the people in the event are still talking about.
 

emperus

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Couldn't care less what was actually in the article, you attempted to chide someone for referencing the event when the people in the event are still talking about.

Lol.. You posted an article but couldn't care less what was in it? Lol. What's amazing is that you think that's some kind of badge of honor.

Again, here is what I wrote..

Yeah, the game was called properly. The tuck rule was an actual written rule (stupid nonetheless) that the refs properly enforced. What's ironic is that the Tuck Rule initially hurt the patriots in that earlier Jets game you mentioned. I remember watching that Jets game thinking wtf... But noone said a peep about it until.. well it helped the Pats. And we have silly people (cubby1223) still bringing it up without an understanding of what they are talking about...

I think the article you posted reinforces my point.. you know.. silly people still bringing it up without an understanding of what they are talking about. Next time try understanding posts you reply to and articles you decide to post.

Again, the group think is frightening.

Eidt: Ur post is actually quite hilarious. You're basically saying, because an idiot says and believes something idiotic, it's ok for me to say and believe it as well. lol.
 
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HomerJS

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brady.jpg
 

emperus

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Analysis done on the Wells Report:

Deflating ‘Deflategate’
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The Wells report’s main finding is that the Patriots balls declined in pressure more than the Colts balls did in the first half of their game, and that the decline is highly statistically significant. For the sake of argument, let’s grant this finding for now. Even still, it alone does not prove misconduct. There are, after all, two possibilities. The first is that the Patriots balls declined too much. The second — overlooked by the Wells report — is that the Colts balls declined too little.

The latter possibility appears to be more likely. The Wells report notes the expected pressure for the footballs at halftime in the Patriots-Colts game, factoring in the decline in pressure to be expected when a ball, inflated in a warm room, has been moved to a cold outdoor field. If the Patriots deflated their balls, their pressure levels at halftime should have fallen below the expected level, while the Colts balls at halftime should have hovered around that level.

But when we analyzed the data provided in the Wells report, we found that the Patriots balls declined by about the expected amount, while the Colts balls declined by less. In fact, the pressure of the Colts balls was statistically significantly higher than expected. Contrary to the report, the significant difference between the changes in pressure of the two teams’ balls was not because the pressure of the Patriots balls was too low, but because that of the Colts balls was too high.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/14/opinion/deflating-deflategate.html?
 

SSSnail

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Tuck rule game. Spygate. Deflategate.

We understand, you are a devoted fan of your team. Get over yourself. Nobody likes being around whiny sport jocks.

Tuck Rule was invented waaaayyyyyy BEFORE that game, it was enforced during it.

They did not win the SB during SpyGate, but they did proceed to beat everybody and their mothers' asses after the SpyGate complaint, though.

Deflategate, lol.

Anyways, just goes to show how idiotic most of the Pats haters are, just can't even get your facts straight and just go with the bandwagonning mouth-breathers. But of course, I wouldn't expect anything different. Stupid is as stupid does.