Today sucks :(

[Svnla]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: Svnla

Originally posted by: K1052
read the thread asshat

Let see, from the OP very own words:

...."I didn't even know it. Music was fucking blaring, didn't hear anything"....."I realized that I could have possibly hit him".........."admitted total fault - told her that I didn't check to the right of my car , and my music was blaring"....."Poor guy, victim of my gross negligence "

OP admitted that he didn't pay attention, music was loud, he didn't realize that he hit the biker..and admitted fault. What else do you want?


Follow your own advise..read the OP again.. asshat.

You might have read the thread and understood that the most likely scenarios put the biker in the wrong. I'm sure the OP feels terrible and responsible though it doesn't really look like his fault from the information available.

Humm...were you there? were I there? were any of the posters in this thread there? Any of us are profesional accident investigators? Nope, nada, zip.

I pick the OP because at least he was there. At least you replied with more reasonable wording and not calling name again. At the very least, he shared some blame for freaking loud music and didn't pay attention. I am not saying the biker is completely innocent either.

We are all "speculating/guessing" here.

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: senseamp
Bikers can pass cars just like cars can pass bikers. The situation you describe usually happens because the car first passes the biker on the left in the turn lane, and then cuts in front of him instead of slowing down and making the turn after the biker has ridden ahead. That is the driver is perfectly aware that there is a bike on his right, but chooses to deliberately cut the biker off by making a right turn into his path. If you cannot make a right turn safely without cutting off the biker, you should slow down yourself, let the biker pass and then make the turn behind him. That is exactly the reason why I take up full lanes of traffic, so cars cannot pass me on the left in turn lanes.

No one is supposed to pass anyone at the driveway of a starbucks. Unless the bicyclist was riding down the sidewalk or going the wrong way, then they were to blame because they snuck up to the right the OP's vehicle while it was stopped, which is illegal.

 

[venkman]

Originally posted by: sygyzy
What's with all the ATOT hate for bikers? Bikers, minorities, immigrants, liberals. Man!

fat people
ugly chicks
the dutch

 

[Ryan]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
You were making a right and the cyclist was coming from your right?

Dude, that's his fault. He shouldn't have been riding against traffic.

unless im compleatly fucking this up the dude on the bike WAS riding with traffic

I just re-read the OP and I honestly can't tell which direction the cyclist was coming from actually. Can we get a clarification on that? Was he coming from your right or from your left?

I kinda doubt the OP could miss a cyclist hitting his Left fender since that would have been the direction he was watching for traffic from to make the Right turn.

That's why I assumed the cyclist was coming from his right.

Correct.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: Svnla

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: Svnla

Originally posted by: K1052
read the thread asshat

Let see, from the OP very own words:

...."I didn't even know it. Music was fucking blaring, didn't hear anything"....."I realized that I could have possibly hit him".........."admitted total fault - told her that I didn't check to the right of my car , and my music was blaring"....."Poor guy, victim of my gross negligence "

OP admitted that he didn't pay attention, music was loud, he didn't realize that he hit the biker..and admitted fault. What else do you want?


Follow your own advise..read the OP again.. asshat.

You might have read the thread and understood that the most likely scenarios put the biker in the wrong. I'm sure the OP feels terrible and responsible though it doesn't really look like his fault from the information available.

Humm...were you there? were I there? were any of the posters in this thread there? Any of us are profesional accident investigators? Nope, nada, zip.

I pick the OP because at least he was there. At least you replied with more reasonable wording and not calling name again. At the very least, he shared some blame for freaking loud music and didn't pay attention. I am not saying the biker is completely innocent either.

We are all "speculating/guessing" here.

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Originally posted by: Ryan

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
You were making a right and the cyclist was coming from your right?

Dude, that's his fault. He shouldn't have been riding against traffic.

unless im compleatly fucking this up the dude on the bike WAS riding with traffic

I just re-read the OP and I honestly can't tell which direction the cyclist was coming from actually. Can we get a clarification on that? Was he coming from your right or from your left?

I kinda doubt the OP could miss a cyclist hitting his Left fender since that would have been the direction he was watching for traffic from to make the Right turn.

That's why I assumed the cyclist was coming from his right.

Correct.

 

[Ryan]

No need to hate on the biker(s), even if he was traveling the wrong direction (I believe the cop mentioned something about the guy being at fault because he was driving on the wrong side of the road too, but I still didn't want to hit a person). Seriously, had I been a little more cognizant of the situation, I could have avoided it. The whole situation just seriously shook me up - no reports called in so far. *keeps fingers crossed*

 

[Deeko]

I'm not hating on bikers - it's just very clear that the biker was in the wrong here, not you. Could you have avoided it? Sure, but if he was going the wrong way, it's 100% his fault. If he calls in, you should sue him for the damage to your fender

 

[torpid]

Chalk this up to another reason to consider murder every time I see a bicyclist biking down the wrong way on a one-way road's bike lane. The main reason is still that I don't want to collide with him/her while going the correct way or have to expend mental or physical effort to avoid a collision.

 

[Ryan]

Originally posted by: Deeko
I'm not hating on bikers - it's just very clear that the biker was in the wrong here, not you. Could you have avoided it? Sure, but if he was going the wrong way, it's 100% his fault. If he calls in, you should sue him for the damage to your fender

haha - I'm just glad the damage is small, disappointing though because I just bought the car. On top of that, I also dismantled the front end of my vehicle two days ago - I just replaced the headlight housings on the front of the car, along with a new grill, and realigned the bumper and front fenders (previous owner's damage). doh!

 

[Svnla]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: Ryan

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
You were making a right and the cyclist was coming from your right?

Dude, that's his fault. He shouldn't have been riding against traffic.

unless im compleatly fucking this up the dude on the bike WAS riding with traffic

I just re-read the OP and I honestly can't tell which direction the cyclist was coming from actually. Can we get a clarification on that? Was he coming from your right or from your left?

I kinda doubt the OP could miss a cyclist hitting his Left fender since that would have been the direction he was watching for traffic from to make the Right turn.

That's why I assumed the cyclist was coming from his right.

Correct.

LOL, you called me asshat and told me to read the whole thread at 10:30 a.m. <when the OP didn't say ANYTHING about the biker COMING TOWARD him from the right in the op> and now you quoted his reply at 3:42 p.m = over 5 HOURS LATER. Verrrry helpful...NOT...so tell me ...who is the asshat?

Oh..the OP also said "I didn't check to the right of my car" = a big no in any traffic classes... but I guess it is ok with you to drive like that.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: Svnla
LOL, you called me asshat and told me to read the whole thread at 10:30 a.m. <when the OP didn't say ANYTHING about the biker COMING TOWARD him from the right in the op> and now you quoted his reply at 3:42 p.m = over 5 HOURS LATER. Verrrry helpful...NOT...so tell me ...who is the asshat?

Oh..the OP also said "I didn't check to the right of my car" = a big no in any traffic classes... but I guess it is ok with you to drive like that.

There was only one really logical conclusion based on the original information provided, which experienced bikers agreed was the likely case.

You were the one who made an ass out of yourself by attacking the OP.

I see no need for me to post further on this subject.

 

[zoiks]

Bicyclists = Road Mortar. Yeah Baby!

 

[Svnla]

Originally posted by: K1052

.....You were the one who made an ass out of yourself by attacking the OP.

I see no need for me to post further on this subject.

I attacked the OP?

Let see...In my first post to the OP in this thread..I said "you, techboy, and a bunch other atot drivers need to learn how to drive <properly> again."


Your first reply to me "read the thread asshat"

Who attacked who?

You = asshat and a big liar

 

[sactoking]

Originally posted by: Playmaker
Assuming no bike lane, what is the law for bikers passing on the right when they are on the curb and not in an actual lane? If a biker attempts to pass a car turning right at an intersection that was in front of the biker, and the biker hits said car or the car hits the biker, who's at fault?

It depends on the venue, but generally speaking, if there is no bike lane:

If the Point of Contact (POC) was on the front of the bicycle/side of the car, the bicyclist would be at fault for improper pass on the right and failure to allow the vehicle to clear the lane of traffic. The driver would be at fault for failure to clear a blind spot. Negligence would probably be assessed 80-20 or so, against the bicyclist.

If the POC was on the side of the bicycle/front of the car, the driver would be at fault for striking another motorist. The bicyclist would be at fault for improper pass on the right. Negligence would probably be assessed 80-20 or 70-30 against the driver.

It really boils down to who contacts who, though both have some fault. Of course, the motorist is considered to have the greater responsibility for due care, so in particularly sympathetic jurisdictions you could see an award for the bicyclist on that alone, regardless of the facts of the accident or the true legal liability.

 

[Linux23]

Fvck that. I would have kept on moving.

 

[Bignate603]

I was going to come in here and tell you that you were being irresponsible if you hit a biker, but the fact that you went back and then called the cops was more than most people would have done.

Hopefully the guy is ok.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Linux23
Fvck that. I would have kept on moving.

I really wish those admitting to crimes = ban.

Suck it up and deal with it don't leave some fucker bleeding out on the side of the road.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Svnla

Originally posted by: K1052

.....You were the one who made an ass out of yourself by attacking the OP.

I see no need for me to post further on this subject.

Who attacked who?

You = asshat and a big liar

neener neener neener!

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: bignateyk

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: TheNinja
F bikers. They want all the privledges of cars but also of pedestrians when it's convenient. They blow through stops signs and ride against traffic just like if they were walking, yet they also ride on the road and slow down traffic like slow vehicles and expect to be treated like a car. They need to decide one or the other, none of this combo platter hippie BS.

Yes, we can do that, and no we don't have to decide. You have to share the road.

While technically you can do that, it is illegal, and you won't have any sympathy from me I run your dumb ass over when you are breaking the law.

Agreed. I ride and I NEVER run red lights. I slow down for stop signs and if there is a car there I will yield right of way and stop, if no car I'll roll through and continue on my way.

Don't judge us all by the actions of a few.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: TheNinja
F bikers. They want all the privledges of cars but also of pedestrians when it's convenient. They blow through stops signs and ride against traffic just like if they were walking, yet they also ride on the road and slow down traffic like slow vehicles and expect to be treated like a car. They need to decide one or the other, none of this combo platter hippie BS.

Yes, we can do that, and no we don't have to decide. You have to share the road.

haha, no dude, no you can't. It's illegal. Keep it up and you're going to get yourself killed - AND IT WILL BE YOUR FAULT. Deal with it.

What is illegal? Biker riding slow in traffic lane and expecting to be treated like a car? It's the law that we are allowed to do that. As a courtesy to drivers, we ride on the right of the lane so they can pass us, but we could by law take up the entire traffic lane and ride in it.

What is illegal? Passing cars moving slower than you/stopped. Such as the situation I described above, where a car is slowing down to make a right turn, the bike decides to pass him on the right because heaven forbid he has to slow down, the car turns and hits the bike. That's the biker's fault, you can't just pass people on a whim,

That depends on the area. Here it is perfectly legal to pass cars on the right and filter up to the front. Most roads here have turn lanes so when I come up to those I move over and blend in with traffic. I ride down a three lane road in the afternoon and there might be a mile long line of cars stacked up waiting to get through there. Ain't no way I'm sitting behind that mess waiting for them to move. I ride right past them...usually up the middle of the two right hand lanes because there is no bike lane and the cars are too close to the curb for me to get by them.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: bignateyk

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: TheNinja
F bikers. They want all the privledges of cars but also of pedestrians when it's convenient. They blow through stops signs and ride against traffic just like if they were walking, yet they also ride on the road and slow down traffic like slow vehicles and expect to be treated like a car. They need to decide one or the other, none of this combo platter hippie BS.

Yes, we can do that, and no we don't have to decide. You have to share the road.

While technically you can do that, it is illegal, and you won't have any sympathy from me I run your dumb ass over when you are breaking the law.

Agreed. I ride and I NEVER run red lights. I slow down for stop signs and if there is a car there I will yield right of way and stop, if no car I'll roll through and continue on my way.

Don't judge us all by the actions of a few.

it gets confusing...are you talking pedal bike or motor bike? Since you post on both you need to qualify it.

Either way just slowing down for stop signs is BS. I deal with this daily. If it's not looking like you are thinking of stopping, I am not going. Big waste of time.

Also those asshats in front of me in traffic that just crawl to and through a stop, could make it much quicker to drive up, stop and then go.

 

[AccruedExpenditure]

Has the crucification started yet? Ping me when the crucification starts
Regards,
-AE

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
You were making a right and the cyclist was coming from your right?

Dude, that's his fault. He shouldn't have been riding against traffic.

He forgot to mention that he was driving on the sidewalk.