Those in Law-Enforcement...

[JD50]

Originally posted by: Agentbolt


Yeah, you're right, of course. I should just ignore the mountains of anecdotal evidence that the current system is broken and enabling for crooked cops and instead assume everything is just peachy keen. Because hey, they're cops, right? They have a high school diploma and a pulse, otherwise they'd never have been hired in the first place! They must be awesome people!

I think a big part of the solution to the problem would be to pay cops more, and require some semblance of qualifications to get the job. Currently someone who slept through school and beat up nerds on the playground and has the intelligence/education of your average McDonald's worker can get the job, so I guess I'm expecting too much from the police force.

I know its Christmas and all, but you're an idiot. Mainly for comparing Cops to McDonalds workers, but everything else you said just helps confirm your idiocy.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: manowar821

Originally posted by: SpeedEng66
being a p.o. is a thank less job

give them a break

No thanks, if you want to be a police officer, meaning a peace-keeping law enforcer for and by the people, then I expect you to be on your best, most perfect behavior every second of the work day. I have absolutely zero respect, tolerance, or sympathy for a cop that's having a "bad day" and takes it out on someone. If a cop says "kinda having a bad day" to me after I ask them "how's it going?", then sure, I'll feel bad for him/her because they're being respectful. But the moment they show any kind of disrespect or worse to me or anyone else who's done nothing of the sort to them, I have literally zero respect for them.

Fucking STAY IN LINE, isn't that what they're TRAINED to do?

It's sad that we have to teach ourselves as citizens how to dodge a cops game. I shouldn't have to dodge their psychological games to protect my rights, much less be forced to stab or beat one down because he's a crooked monster. I WISH I could feel safe around them, I really, REALLY do, but it's apparent that they're not actually being trained to protect and serve as much these days. Now it's about protecting interests. FUCK the interests.

Yea, those stupid FUCKING pigs. They should be perfect 100 percent of the time. We don't want our FUCKING POlice to be human. I like saying FUCK a lot and writing about how I might have to STAB and BEAT down the dirty PIGS because I'm a hard ASS. FUCK the POlice!!

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[SoundTheSurrender]

Well cops are complete assholes so I don't see the problem.

 

[Kirby]

All the cops I have met/dealt with have been extremely polite and professional, therefore all cops are extremely polite and professional.

 

[imported_Baloo]

I fail to see what your experience has to do with law enforement, your asecurity guard, not a cop. You stare at people, you are going to get those kinda of looks. And it's obvious that you are racist, that is why you target them with your wierd stares.

 

[Tobolo]

If you see the police, Warn A Brother

 

[MartyMcFly3]

From an email forward, but the points made are valid...

The Lousy Cop

Dear Mr. Citizen:

It seems you have figured me out. I seem to fit neatly into the category where you placed me. I'm stereotyped, standardized, characterized, classified, grouped, and always typical. I'm the "lousy cop". Unfortunately, the reverse is true..I can never figure you out.

From birth you teach your children that I am a person to be aware of, and then you are shocked when they identify me with my traditional enemy...the criminal.

You accuse me of coddling juveniles, until I catch your kid doing something.

You may take an hour for lunch and several coffee breaks each day, but point me out as a loafer if you see me having just one cup.

You pride yourself on your polished manners, but think nothing of interrupting my meals at noon with your troubles.

You raise hell with the person who cuts you off in traffic, but let me catch you doing the same thing and I'm picking on you. You know all the traffic laws...but you never got one single ticket you deserved.

You shout "FOUL!!" if you observe me driving fast, en route to an emergency call, but literally raise hell if I take more than ten seconds responding to your call.

You call it "part of my duty" if someone strikes me. But it's "police brutality" if I strike back.

You wouldn't think of telling your dentist how to pull a badly decayed tooth, or a doctor how to take out your appendix, but you are always giving me pointers on law enforcement.

You talk to me in a manner and use language that would assure a bloody nose from anyone else, but you expect me to stand there and take it without batting an eye.

You say "something has to be done about all the crime", but you can't be bothered with getting involved.

You've got no use for me at all, but of course, it's OK if I change a tire for your wife, or deliver a baby on the back seat of my squad car on the way to the hospital, or save your son's life with mouth-to-mouth resuscitation, or work many hours of overtime to find your lost daughter.

So, Dear Citizen, you stand there on your soap box and rant and rave about the way I do my job, calling me every name in the book, but never stop to think that your property, your family, or maybe your life might depend on one thing...me or one of my buddies.

 

[SpeedEng66]

Originally posted by: manowar821

Originally posted by: SpeedEng66
being a p.o. is a thank less job

give them a break

No thanks, if you want to be a police officer, meaning a peace-keeping law enforcer for and by the people, then I expect you to be on your best, most perfect behavior every second of the work day. I have absolutely zero respect, tolerance, or sympathy for a cop that's having a "bad day" and takes it out on someone. If a cop says "kinda having a bad day" to me after I ask them "how's it going?", then sure, I'll feel bad for him/her because they're being respectful. But the moment they show any kind of disrespect or worse to me or anyone else who's done nothing of the sort to them, I have literally zero respect for them.

Fucking STAY IN LINE, isn't that what they're TRAINED to do?

It's sad that we have to teach ourselves as citizens how to dodge a cops game. I shouldn't have to dodge their psychological games to protect my rights, much less be forced to stab or beat one down because he's a crooked monster. I WISH I could feel safe around them, I really, REALLY do, but it's apparent that they're not actually being trained to protect and serve as much these days. Now it's about protecting interests. FUCK the interests.

you teach yourself to dodge cops, why? what.. are you a criminal?
if you act like one be treated like one

 

[wwswimming]

when i was in college i worked security for the guy that ran
the Karate Club. he had some "side deals" going, like being
a caretaker & living rent-free in a house on university land,
and his Security Guard business, for which he recruited guys
from the Karate Club.

one of the times i worked for him, it was at a Foreigner
concert in Stockton. some guy was throwing lit firecrackers
into the crowd. i went into the crowd, and it took 3 or 4
more fire-crackers before i was close enough to figure
out who it was.

i grabbed him by the arm, and started pulling. at this
point it became obvious that he was 6 foot plus and i
was 5' 6". anyway, i kept pulling and pulled him out
into the hallway, where he had more room to fight
back. at that point one of my fellow security people
tackled the guy and walked him out the exit door at
the back of the building.

i forget what we were supposed to look for when
people were coming in to the concert. it was a very
mixed ethnicity crowd. there was no hassle at the
entrance area. this was before 9-11.

 

[bobsmith1492]

Originally posted by: manowar821

Originally posted by: SpeedEng66
being a p.o. is a thank less job

give them a break

No thanks, if you want to be a police officer, meaning a peace-keeping law enforcer for and by the people, then I expect you to be on your best, most perfect behavior every second of the work day. I have absolutely zero respect, tolerance, or sympathy for a cop that's having a "bad day" and takes it out on someone. If a cop says "kinda having a bad day" to me after I ask them "how's it going?", then sure, I'll feel bad for him/her because they're being respectful. But the moment they show any kind of disrespect or worse to me or anyone else who's done nothing of the sort to them, I have literally zero respect for them.

Fucking STAY IN LINE, isn't that what they're TRAINED to do?

It's sad that we have to teach ourselves as citizens how to dodge a cops game. I shouldn't have to dodge their psychological games to protect my rights, much less be forced to stab or beat one down because he's a crooked monster. I WISH I could feel safe around them, I really, REALLY do, but it's apparent that they're not actually being trained to protect and serve as much these days. Now it's about protecting interests. FUCK the interests.

I know your type. Anyone with a semblance of authority over you is automatically the enemy and is to be treated as such at all times. It results in a blindness to any reasoning or observations to the contrary and an automatic tallying of evidence to prove the evilness of said enemies. Either you were a devil-child toward your parents or they are just like you and that is where you picked up your attitude. I've seen that attitude a lot especially in trailer-trash areas where it's always easier to blame someone else for one's misfortunes than take responsibility for one's own actions and modify one's attitude and actions to fit the guidelines set forth by said authority. I have no sympathy but I do respect the strength of will indicated therein.

 

[manowar821]

Originally posted by: bobsmith1492

Originally posted by: manowar821

Originally posted by: SpeedEng66
being a p.o. is a thank less job

give them a break

No thanks, if you want to be a police officer, meaning a peace-keeping law enforcer for and by the people, then I expect you to be on your best, most perfect behavior every second of the work day. I have absolutely zero respect, tolerance, or sympathy for a cop that's having a "bad day" and takes it out on someone. If a cop says "kinda having a bad day" to me after I ask them "how's it going?", then sure, I'll feel bad for him/her because they're being respectful. But the moment they show any kind of disrespect or worse to me or anyone else who's done nothing of the sort to them, I have literally zero respect for them.

Fucking STAY IN LINE, isn't that what they're TRAINED to do?

It's sad that we have to teach ourselves as citizens how to dodge a cops game. I shouldn't have to dodge their psychological games to protect my rights, much less be forced to stab or beat one down because he's a crooked monster. I WISH I could feel safe around them, I really, REALLY do, but it's apparent that they're not actually being trained to protect and serve as much these days. Now it's about protecting interests. FUCK the interests.

I know your type. Anyone with a semblance of authority over you is automatically the enemy and is to be treated as such at all times. It results in a blindness to any reasoning or observations to the contrary and an automatic tallying of evidence to prove the evilness of said enemies. Either you were a devil-child toward your parents or they are just like you and that is where you picked up your attitude. I've seen that attitude a lot especially in trailer-trash areas where it's always easier to blame someone else for one's misfortunes than take responsibility for one's own actions and modify one's attitude and actions to fit the guidelines set forth by said authority. I have no sympathy but I do respect the strength of will indicated therein.

Indeed, because I'm totally disrespectful to all authority, even if respect is given to me first.

Oh wait, no, you're just making stuff up and pretending that you've got me all figured out. Sure, if it makes you feel better about the world to lump me into a group, go right ahead.

Like I told Jerkoff50 or whatever before, just for the record, you're wrong.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: manowar821

Originally posted by: bobsmith1492

Originally posted by: manowar821

Originally posted by: SpeedEng66
being a p.o. is a thank less job

give them a break

No thanks, if you want to be a police officer, meaning a peace-keeping law enforcer for and by the people, then I expect you to be on your best, most perfect behavior every second of the work day. I have absolutely zero respect, tolerance, or sympathy for a cop that's having a "bad day" and takes it out on someone. If a cop says "kinda having a bad day" to me after I ask them "how's it going?", then sure, I'll feel bad for him/her because they're being respectful. But the moment they show any kind of disrespect or worse to me or anyone else who's done nothing of the sort to them, I have literally zero respect for them.

Fucking STAY IN LINE, isn't that what they're TRAINED to do?

It's sad that we have to teach ourselves as citizens how to dodge a cops game. I shouldn't have to dodge their psychological games to protect my rights, much less be forced to stab or beat one down because he's a crooked monster. I WISH I could feel safe around them, I really, REALLY do, but it's apparent that they're not actually being trained to protect and serve as much these days. Now it's about protecting interests. FUCK the interests.

I know your type. Anyone with a semblance of authority over you is automatically the enemy and is to be treated as such at all times. It results in a blindness to any reasoning or observations to the contrary and an automatic tallying of evidence to prove the evilness of said enemies. Either you were a devil-child toward your parents or they are just like you and that is where you picked up your attitude. I've seen that attitude a lot especially in trailer-trash areas where it's always easier to blame someone else for one's misfortunes than take responsibility for one's own actions and modify one's attitude and actions to fit the guidelines set forth by said authority. I have no sympathy but I do respect the strength of will indicated therein.

Indeed, because I'm totally disrespectful to all authority, even if respect is given to me first.

Oh wait, no, you're just making stuff up and pretending that you've got me all figured out. Sure, if it makes you feel better about the world to lump me into a group, go right ahead.

Like I told Jerkoff50 or whatever before, just for the record, you're wrong.

So next time you are rude or say something even slightly out of line at your company, would you feel you deserve to be fired? Thats what you are saying here... or even more so killed. Next time you say something would it be fair if they held it against you and then when you needed them they just decided not to help you and you die.

Lemme tell you it sounds an awful like you refuse to help anyone unless they treat you like a saint 100% of the time and remain perfect. Newsflash-- we are all humans here-- we make mistakes, get over it and start having some compassion-- this world needs more of it.

-Kevin

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: Baloo
I fail to see what your experience has to do with law enforement, your asecurity guard, not a cop. You stare at people, you are going to get those kinda of looks. And it's obvious that you are racist, that is why you target them with your wierd stares.

Security guard upholds laws on a very limited jurisdiction. You don't have to be a police officer to be Law Enforcement.

-Kevin

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
From an email forward, but the points made are valid...

The Lousy Cop

Dear Mr. Citizen:

It seems you have figured me out. I seem to fit neatly into the category where you placed me. I'm stereotyped, standardized, characterized, classified, grouped, and always typical. I'm the "lousy cop". Unfortunately, the reverse is true..I can never figure you out.

From birth you teach your children that I am a person to be aware of, and then you are shocked when they identify me with my traditional enemy...the criminal.

You accuse me of coddling juveniles, until I catch your kid doing something.

You may take an hour for lunch and several coffee breaks each day, but point me out as a loafer if you see me having just one cup.

You pride yourself on your polished manners, but think nothing of interrupting my meals at noon with your troubles.

You raise hell with the person who cuts you off in traffic, but let me catch you doing the same thing and I'm picking on you. You know all the traffic laws...but you never got one single ticket you deserved.

You shout "FOUL!!" if you observe me driving fast, en route to an emergency call, but literally raise hell if I take more than ten seconds responding to your call.

You call it "part of my duty" if someone strikes me. But it's "police brutality" if I strike back.

You wouldn't think of telling your dentist how to pull a badly decayed tooth, or a doctor how to take out your appendix, but you are always giving me pointers on law enforcement.

You talk to me in a manner and use language that would assure a bloody nose from anyone else, but you expect me to stand there and take it without batting an eye.

You say "something has to be done about all the crime", but you can't be bothered with getting involved.

You've got no use for me at all, but of course, it's OK if I change a tire for your wife, or deliver a baby on the back seat of my squad car on the way to the hospital, or save your son's life with mouth-to-mouth resuscitation, or work many hours of overtime to find your lost daughter.

So, Dear Citizen, you stand there on your soap box and rant and rave about the way I do my job, calling me every name in the book, but never stop to think that your property, your family, or maybe your life might depend on one thing...me or one of my buddies.

That is a sad but true state of affairs

 

[Chaotic42]

Well, I didn't get shot, mugged, robbed, or defrauded today, so it looks like another day inwhich the police have done their job for me. Call me a "police appologist" if you want. Yes, it's their job, but it's a poorly-paid, over-worked position that most of them are in. I'm sorry that I can't expect them to be mind-readers and to know exactly who really will pose a threat to them when they pull someone over or respond to a call.

 

[ColdFusion718]

Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
ATOT members rant against cops checklist:

Mention of Quotas? Check!
"Majority of cops are assholes" comments? Check!
Mention of Donuts? Check!
People not knowing what they are talking about? Check!

You know, all computer tech people are just a bunch of nerds who sit around, drink mountain dew and play world of warcraft all day. None of them know what they are doing unless they have access to google, and even when they DO fix something, something else fucks up. They think they are above everybody else just because their computers are supposedly superior to the ones they work on. Anyone could do it.

And lets talk about doctors... Sure they save lives, but look how much it costs to go to one. And don't even start talking about how high bills are if you have no insurance. Doctors are in it for the money alone and not the satisfaction of making others feel better. They all sit in their golf carts at the local golf course they are members of and smoke their fat stogies after diagnosing a few patients, laughing at how others have to work for a living.

Man, generalizing IS fun!!!! :roll:

Are you a cop?

 

[FallenHero]

Originally posted by: ColdFusion718

Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
ATOT members rant against cops checklist:

Mention of Quotas? Check!
"Majority of cops are assholes" comments? Check!
Mention of Donuts? Check!
People not knowing what they are talking about? Check!

You know, all computer tech people are just a bunch of nerds who sit around, drink mountain dew and play world of warcraft all day. None of them know what they are doing unless they have access to google, and even when they DO fix something, something else fucks up. They think they are above everybody else just because their computers are supposedly superior to the ones they work on. Anyone could do it.

And lets talk about doctors... Sure they save lives, but look how much it costs to go to one. And don't even start talking about how high bills are if you have no insurance. Doctors are in it for the money alone and not the satisfaction of making others feel better. They all sit in their golf carts at the local golf course they are members of and smoke their fat stogies after diagnosing a few patients, laughing at how others have to work for a living.

Man, generalizing IS fun!!!! :roll:

Are you a cop?

Yes he is. There are several of us drooling retards that post here.

 

[zanejohnson]

me of all people you'd probably expect to have a very pessimistic view on police officers...

but im not that irrational, i know there are good cops, and bad cops.....i've ran into both..

one good cop i encountered, did something i thought was very reasonable, even though i was in fact breaking the law... i got pulled over for not using a turn signal within the appropriate distance of the turn, i was sober, but for some reason he wanted to search the vehicle... i told him flat out that i had a very small amount of marijuana with me, in my glove box, and no pipes, and that i had not smoked any that day.... he took the pot, didnt write me a ticket, and i was on my way... he just told me to keep it at home. that was very fair...

another cop however arrested me on the spot, and charged me with possesion, with intent to deliver (because it was in a sealed baggie,) and from that day on, he would pull me over and want to search my car EVERY TIME he saw me, it got so bad that he was following my wife and pulling her over just to harass her and ask where i was. i finally got to the point where when he would pull me over i would baraly crack my window, just enough to hand him my license/insurance through the window, and when he asked to search i asked for him to present a warrant, or show me probable cause for the search... the first time i did this, he ordered me out of the car, handcuffed me, ordered my wife out of the car, while the baby was crying in the backseat because she didnt know what was going on and the officer was being very loud. He searched, without consent, found nothing, and then let us go... i called in a complaint, and he never bothered me again.

 

[ColdFusion718]

Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3

Originally posted by: Xyclone

Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
And lets talk about doctors... Sure they save lives, but look how much it costs to go to one. And don't even start talking about how high bills are if you have no insurance. Doctors are in it for the money alone and not the satisfaction of making others feel better. They all sit in their golf carts at the local golf course they are members of and smoke their fat stogies after diagnosing a few patients, laughing at how others have to work for a living.

Man, generalizing IS fun!!!! :roll:

Doctors don't work for a living? Yeah, generalizing is fun. While you were fooling around in high school and uni they were the ones who actually worked their asses off, went to medical school, and finished their residencies. They deserve it. It's someone's own fault if they couldn't afford insurance. They could go back to school and get a fucking education and then they wouldn't have to work menial jobs for the rest of their lives.

If you couldn't tell, my WHOLE post was dripping with sarcasm.

Computer tech people are obviously NOT all nerds who drink mountain dew and play world of warcraft.
Doctors DO save lives. I rely heavily on EMS/Doctors all the time in my line of work. If it werent for EMS/Doctors, the suicidal subject I dealt with last night would now be dead.

My comments were saying that you can make all sorts of generalizations on any occupation, but it doesn't mean they are true.

Here's some batteries for your sarcasm detector.

Haha you're comparing cops with IT people and doctors. Nice job! Shouldn't be out issuing speeding tickets, tasing children and helpless senior citizens? You know, keeping the rest of us doctors and IT folks safe?

Oh wait, you're on your 2-hour doughnut break. I apologize. Don't tase me, bro.

 

[manowar821]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: manowar821

Originally posted by: bobsmith1492

Originally posted by: manowar821

Originally posted by: SpeedEng66
being a p.o. is a thank less job

give them a break

No thanks, if you want to be a police officer, meaning a peace-keeping law enforcer for and by the people, then I expect you to be on your best, most perfect behavior every second of the work day. I have absolutely zero respect, tolerance, or sympathy for a cop that's having a "bad day" and takes it out on someone. If a cop says "kinda having a bad day" to me after I ask them "how's it going?", then sure, I'll feel bad for him/her because they're being respectful. But the moment they show any kind of disrespect or worse to me or anyone else who's done nothing of the sort to them, I have literally zero respect for them.

Fucking STAY IN LINE, isn't that what they're TRAINED to do?

It's sad that we have to teach ourselves as citizens how to dodge a cops game. I shouldn't have to dodge their psychological games to protect my rights, much less be forced to stab or beat one down because he's a crooked monster. I WISH I could feel safe around them, I really, REALLY do, but it's apparent that they're not actually being trained to protect and serve as much these days. Now it's about protecting interests. FUCK the interests.

I know your type. Anyone with a semblance of authority over you is automatically the enemy and is to be treated as such at all times. It results in a blindness to any reasoning or observations to the contrary and an automatic tallying of evidence to prove the evilness of said enemies. Either you were a devil-child toward your parents or they are just like you and that is where you picked up your attitude. I've seen that attitude a lot especially in trailer-trash areas where it's always easier to blame someone else for one's misfortunes than take responsibility for one's own actions and modify one's attitude and actions to fit the guidelines set forth by said authority. I have no sympathy but I do respect the strength of will indicated therein.

Indeed, because I'm totally disrespectful to all authority, even if respect is given to me first.

Oh wait, no, you're just making stuff up and pretending that you've got me all figured out. Sure, if it makes you feel better about the world to lump me into a group, go right ahead.

Like I told Jerkoff50 or whatever before, just for the record, you're wrong.

So next time you are rude or say something even slightly out of line at your company, would you feel you deserve to be fired? Thats what you are saying here... or even more so killed. Next time you say something would it be fair if they held it against you and then when you needed them they just decided not to help you and you die.

Lemme tell you it sounds an awful like you refuse to help anyone unless they treat you like a saint 100% of the time and remain perfect. Newsflash-- we are all humans here-- we make mistakes, get over it and start having some compassion-- this world needs more of it.

-Kevin

That's a mighty large gap of logic there. You think that I attack police officers if they don't act like saints? No, I don't do that. You think I don't help people if they're a stranger? No, I do help strangers. I don't understand what the hell point your comment had, it seemed to me that the entire thing was just a wordy act of context rape.

I mean, taking your post in it's context, you think I'm some kind of robot that doesn't forgive, ever. Wow.

My first point was that large, strong men and women who are armed (in more than one way), dangerous, and have the notion of "authority" on their side should be doing their job correctly. This isn't like a god-damned McDonald's or desk job, they cannot afford to fuck someone over, because they're DANGEROUS. There is little wiggle room for shitty/shoddy work ethics in law enforcement.

My second point was that it's not even so much the police that I have trust issues with, it's the entire system of special interest groups over civil rights. I couldn't bring myself to respect that kind of "authority" if I even tried to, but why would I want to? The US legal system is a fucking joke, as is the so called "oversight" of law enforcement, military, and intelligence. Why in the hell would I feel comfortable, with these people? Give me a good reason why I should, because I have not heard a single one yet.

You see? My lack of trust in police officers is definitely not a judgement on their individual character, it's of the entire broken (well, perhaps it's working the way they'd like it to) system. My judgment of character only comes into play when I meet a cop face to face, before that happens, I'm open to either good or bad possibilities. I do not automatically go on the defensive when dealing with law enforcement.

 

[zanejohnson]

i was also once arrested for possesion of lortabs, which were in fact mine, in the correct prescription bottle and everything... there was however some other pills in the bottle as well, and i was charged with 2 counts of possesion of a dangerous drug, with intent to deliver...1 of the counts was later dropped in court when i explained to the judge that the lortabs were in there correct bottle.

 

[Gamingphreek]

That's a mighty large gap of logic there. You think that I attack police officers if they don't act like saints? No, I don't do that. You think I don't help people if they're a stranger? No, I do help strangers. I don't understand what the hell point your comment had, it seemed to me that the entire thing was just a wordy act of context rape.

Hmm well ya said this earlier:

No thanks, if you want to be a police officer, meaning a peace-keeping law enforcer for and by the people, then I expect you to be on your best, most perfect behavior every second of the work day.

As for anything else, I think I should apologize. I remember someone earlier in the thread saying that they would never help a police officer out even if they helped him out or something to that respect. Upon further inspection, that wasn't you so I apologize in that regard.

But to your latest post I have to ask... You distrust the system, so therefore all within the system you distrust also? How can you generalize over an entire nation?? Thats a huge "non-sequitur" logical fallacy-- it just doesn't follow.

Again I apologize for getting you confused with the earlier poster who was saying all sorts of weird stuff.

-Kevin

 

[SpeedEng66]

Originally posted by: manowar821

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: manowar821

Originally posted by: bobsmith1492

Originally posted by: manowar821

Originally posted by: SpeedEng66
being a p.o. is a thank less job

give them a break

No thanks, if you want to be a police officer, meaning a peace-keeping law enforcer for and by the people, then I expect you to be on your best, most perfect behavior every second of the work day. I have absolutely zero respect, tolerance, or sympathy for a cop that's having a "bad day" and takes it out on someone. If a cop says "kinda having a bad day" to me after I ask them "how's it going?", then sure, I'll feel bad for him/her because they're being respectful. But the moment they show any kind of disrespect or worse to me or anyone else who's done nothing of the sort to them, I have literally zero respect for them.

Fucking STAY IN LINE, isn't that what they're TRAINED to do?

It's sad that we have to teach ourselves as citizens how to dodge a cops game. I shouldn't have to dodge their psychological games to protect my rights, much less be forced to stab or beat one down because he's a crooked monster. I WISH I could feel safe around them, I really, REALLY do, but it's apparent that they're not actually being trained to protect and serve as much these days. Now it's about protecting interests. FUCK the interests.

I know your type. Anyone with a semblance of authority over you is automatically the enemy and is to be treated as such at all times. It results in a blindness to any reasoning or observations to the contrary and an automatic tallying of evidence to prove the evilness of said enemies. Either you were a devil-child toward your parents or they are just like you and that is where you picked up your attitude. I've seen that attitude a lot especially in trailer-trash areas where it's always easier to blame someone else for one's misfortunes than take responsibility for one's own actions and modify one's attitude and actions to fit the guidelines set forth by said authority. I have no sympathy but I do respect the strength of will indicated therein.

Indeed, because I'm totally disrespectful to all authority, even if respect is given to me first.

Oh wait, no, you're just making stuff up and pretending that you've got me all figured out. Sure, if it makes you feel better about the world to lump me into a group, go right ahead.

Like I told Jerkoff50 or whatever before, just for the record, you're wrong.

So next time you are rude or say something even slightly out of line at your company, would you feel you deserve to be fired? Thats what you are saying here... or even more so killed. Next time you say something would it be fair if they held it against you and then when you needed them they just decided not to help you and you die.

Lemme tell you it sounds an awful like you refuse to help anyone unless they treat you like a saint 100% of the time and remain perfect. Newsflash-- we are all humans here-- we make mistakes, get over it and start having some compassion-- this world needs more of it.

-Kevin

That's a mighty large gap of logic there. You think that I attack police officers if they don't act like saints? No, I don't do that. You think I don't help people if they're a stranger? No, I do help strangers. I don't understand what the hell point your comment had, it seemed to me that the entire thing was just a wordy act of context rape.

I mean, taking your post in it's context, you think I'm some kind of robot that doesn't forgive, ever. Wow.

My first point was that large, strong men and women who are armed (in more than one way), dangerous, and have the notion of "authority" on their side should be doing their job correctly. This isn't like a god-damned McDonald's or desk job, they cannot afford to fuck someone over, because they're DANGEROUS. There is little wiggle room for shitty/shoddy work ethics in law enforcement.

My second point was that it's not even so much the police that I have trust issues with, it's the entire system of special interest groups over civil rights. I couldn't bring myself to respect that kind of "authority" if I even tried to, but why would I want to? The US legal system is a fucking joke, as is the so called "oversight" of law enforcement, military, and intelligence. Why in the hell would I feel comfortable, with these people? Give me a good reason why I should, because I have not heard a single one yet.

You see? My lack of trust in police officers is definitely not a judgement on their individual character, it's of the entire broken (well, perhaps it's working the way they'd like it to) system. My judgment of character only comes into play when I meet a cop face to face, before that happens, I'm open to either good or bad possibilities. I do not automatically go on the defensive when dealing with law enforcement.

hahaha ummm ok

 

[zanejohnson]

the one major problem i have with law enforcement, is this "war on drugs" mentality....

drug users are hurting no one but themselves by using illegal drugs....and i just dont understand the prohibtion on marijuana, while alcohol and tobacco are readily available, and accepted by law enforcement....but they wanna fill up jails and cost taxpayers money arresting people who use marijuana...

 

[MartyMcFly3]

Originally posted by: ColdFusion718

Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3

Originally posted by: Xyclone

Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
And lets talk about doctors... Sure they save lives, but look how much it costs to go to one. And don't even start talking about how high bills are if you have no insurance. Doctors are in it for the money alone and not the satisfaction of making others feel better. They all sit in their golf carts at the local golf course they are members of and smoke their fat stogies after diagnosing a few patients, laughing at how others have to work for a living.

Man, generalizing IS fun!!!! :roll:

Doctors don't work for a living? Yeah, generalizing is fun. While you were fooling around in high school and uni they were the ones who actually worked their asses off, went to medical school, and finished their residencies. They deserve it. It's someone's own fault if they couldn't afford insurance. They could go back to school and get a fucking education and then they wouldn't have to work menial jobs for the rest of their lives.

If you couldn't tell, my WHOLE post was dripping with sarcasm.

Computer tech people are obviously NOT all nerds who drink mountain dew and play world of warcraft.
Doctors DO save lives. I rely heavily on EMS/Doctors all the time in my line of work. If it werent for EMS/Doctors, the suicidal subject I dealt with last night would now be dead.

My comments were saying that you can make all sorts of generalizations on any occupation, but it doesn't mean they are true.

Here's some batteries for your sarcasm detector.

Haha you're comparing cops with IT people and doctors. Nice job! Shouldn't be out issuing speeding tickets, tasing children and helpless senior citizens? You know, keeping the rest of us doctors and IT folks safe?

Oh wait, you're on your 2-hour doughnut break. I apologize. Don't tase me, bro.

Wow you really misunderstood the point of that post. I was not comparing the occupations at all. My point was simply that anyone can easily make FALSE generalizations about ANY occupation.

I do give you credit for the doughnut/taser comments though. That was very original and truly dug into me. I have never heard those kinds of comments in my life. Kudos to you, sir.

You should also know, the fact that I'm a police officer doesn't mean I can't have a normal outside-of-work life in which I choose to spend a portion of the time posting on ATOT. (God forbid!)

Are you done insulting both me AND my profession now, even though I have never met you in real life or have done anything to you to even remotely warrant the comments you've made.... or did you have more to offer?