Originally posted by: Agentbolt
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Originally posted by: evident
Originally posted by: savoyboy
Originally posted by: evident
all my experiences with law enforcement and cops make have led me to the conclusion that MOST (95%) of them are crooked assholes who are in it for the pension, and to hassle good law-abiding people with BS traffic tickets.
i dont trust them, and i don't feel safer when they are around
So you hate them because they enforce traffic/state laws that the legislators created?
Nice logic.
btw, who are you going to call if you are in trouble?
p.s. stop driving like a retard and you will not get pull over.
they enforce laws that are designed to make the township money. getting pulled over for drunk driving on the wrong side of the road is one thing, but if you live in certain areas, there are some traffic laws that are ridiculously strict, areas where speed limits change from 55 to 35 without reasonable notice, stop signs on offramps where yield signs should be, and excessive show of police force in towns where there is no crime, and cops would rather spend the time pulling over drivers who violate minor traffic laws in between going to dunkin donuts.
I don't drive like a "retard". I drive about 100 miles a day, and I try to be as safe as possible. I can't wait till you get pulled over for going 60 in a 55mph zone in the highway then have to pay a $200 ticket so the asshole can meet his quota.
your holier-than-thou attitude is lame :roll:
There are no quotas as much as you would like to think there are. Nor have I ever heard of someone getting pulled over and given a $200 ticket for 5mph over the speed limit.
As for you arguments against laws that you don't agree with-- you know there are ways to combat that. Instead of just continually breaking them so that they have to ticket you, you could go in front of your county board of supervisors or whatever legislator controls that where you live.
I actually just got pulled 2 weeks ago for accelerating too fast by a state police officer. It would have been my first ticket. The police officer saw my clean record, I apologized for accelerating fast and was very polite. The officer merely nodded and said that I should just take it easy and be safe-- I thanked him an went on my way with a still clean record
-- They aren't out to make the county/city money there big guy.
-Kevin
Awesome, you caught one decent cop, so that means they're all great people, right? The pro-cop people generalize just as much as the anti-cop people, so this thread is literally drowning in hypocrisy. Jesus.
I didn't have a problem with cops really until I came to ATOT. I've never gotten a ticket or been in any trouble with the law, and hadn't really given them a lot of thought, but then I started seeing story after story after story of cops breaking the law and covering it up, killing innocent people, threatening/harassing innocent people, etc.
I know the Cop Apologist Brigade will swoop in here to scream hysterically that cops do all kind of good that never get reported, but do you know WHY that never gets reported? BECAUSE IT'S THEIR FUCKING JOB. If I came in here ever day seeing some story about a welder that had broken the law, or shot an innocent person, or whatever, I wouldn't like welders very much either. And no one would be crying that you never hear about all the great pieces of metal welders stick together. And that's a pretty wussy comparison, because welders aren't supposed to be the very ones upholding the laws they're breaking, and welders don't have huge powers to harass and punish innocent people.
I think people are naturally prone to power trips, and you have to give a police department a lot of power in any country that doesn't want to be in anarchy, so I'm not sure if the problem is avoidable. I mean, America's hardly alone in having issues with their police force. And it's not like I'm naturally prone to hating the cops, I even went on a ride-along when I was like 18 just to see what it is was like. But I mean, it's just gotten ridiculous seeing how often there's a problem with them. This isn't an isolated case of cops behaving badly here and there like you'll see in any other profession. I am CONSTANTLY seeing stories of cops doing horrible, horrible stuff, and what's worst is that the departments have no interest in fixing it. I've never seen a group of people pathologically cover each other's ass like cops do. Just look here in ATOT, it does not matter what happens, the Cop Apologists will find some way to defend the cops, usually by reverting to something completely ridiculous. "Well sure the cop invented charges and harrassed and threatened the guy for no reason, and clearly broke the law, but...well...the guy shouldn't have been recording it in the first place! I'd love to kick his ass!" Very intelligent, well thought out stuff.
I think it's sad that in any situation where I have the choice between helping out a cop or doing everything legally possible to make his job harder, I'd choose the second, but that's what I'd do. If they're not going to make any effort to fix their problems, I'm certainly not going to do it for them. I'll do what I'm legally required to and if I'm ever in trouble, I won't expect any heroic efforts from them and instead simply hope I've got one of the seeming minority who will do what THEY'RE legally required to.