this is really hard to watch: 4 Gaza kids on a beach killed by Israeli gunboat

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Rakehellion

Rakehellion

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Brovane said:
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"Minimize harm." What a peaceful activity.
 
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cabri

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Abwx said:
Not at all, you know few, to not say nothing at all, and are just repeating the usual fairy tales and usual propaganda imposed as truth by the victor.

Dresden and others cities bombardments, and indeed crimes wars, where deliberate as a mean to crush the german people moral and continual solidarity when bearing the burden of a deseperately soon to be losed war, it was on the same purpose that the nuclear bombings, just that, according to some thinkers, the US would had never launched nuclear bombs if the Japanese where a white people , that s why in Germany they relyied on massive "conventionnal" bombings that yielded the same effective quantities of explosives and impact on mortality, Dresden being the most visible exemple.
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1) Please provide some links to such. I suspect that if one dug into the background of these "thinkers, it would be very interesting.

2) The fanaticism of the Japanese was the main reason for the stated decision to use the atomic bomb. The loss of Allied lives trying to conquer the main islands was felt to have been too high. The cost of lives and the attitude of the Japanese fighters as each island closer to the main islands demonstrated how the fighting would occur. Yes, the bomb was not needed; but the overall cost of lives was projected to be more if standard means were used.
 
Hugo Drax

Hugo Drax

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Henry Ford tried to warn the world about the Jewish conspiracy and no one listened.
 
zanejohnson

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The world would be a better place if Israel was made into a glass parking lot...


and i'm jewish by heritage.
 
zanejohnson

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things are looking really bad for Israel, the jewish people are great, just like the American people are great.

the things both of our governments are doing, are absolutely atrocious,

things are either gonna

a. settle down and move towards peace (HAHAHAHAHHAHA Y EAH FUCKING RIGHT)

or

b. Israel will eventually be turned into a glass parking lot, maybe not today, maybe not next month, maybe not next year...

but if they think, they can keep this up, they are in for another holocaust. no kidding... it's just plain facts.. the world is turning on them... more and more people are seeing the horrors of the Israeli apartheid.. people who never paid attention, or know any of the history, or anything about what happened in the "6 day war." they're looking at it from an outside perspective.....

and i personally, have no problem with the innocent people of Israel, or Palestine.... the citizens of Israel need to stop the government from doing what they are doing... if they plan on staying there for say the next 50-60 years at best at the current trend/speed that people who want to wipe Israel from the map is growing. even the Christians now are turning.
 
zanejohnson

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Harabec said:
Ahh, all the lovely hate.
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it's not even hate!!!! its logic!!

it's the worlds collective reasoning on the position of the state of Israel... they are a state, surrounded by people want to wipe them off the earth, and are working very hard to do so, multiple COUNTRIES... the only thing that's stopped them so far is that the USA has Israel's back...

and as we're starting to see..... Isreal making back room deals with Russia/Russian pro rebel groups... (completely undermining the idea that we're supposed to be ALLIES!

and we're seeing Americans, spout anti-Semitic news to eachother at an unprecedented level (just look at twitter, look at facebook, look EVERYWHERE Americans discuss the issue.



there's gonna come a day, soon, that the American government will just not be able to support that anymore... things aren't so good in America.. not as good as in Israel.. people are starting to see that.. it would be a huge liability off our hands (a huge monkey off our collective backs) if we didnt have to jump every time Israel cries wolf and decides to occupy even farther the areas they took by force in the past "wars."
 
zanejohnson

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it's like look, we understand, they're shooting rockets into Jeruselem... they killed......gasp..... 1 Israeli citizen so far


Israel retalliates with days on end of of bombing.. killing 1000's of civilians....


all the while this is breeding REAL antisemitism..

we have the same thing going on at our border... the Mexican border, imagine how it would look if we built a wall...

it doesn't make me a racist, or an anti Semite, to see that this is a recipe for disaster... we may hold em out for a while... but it's only gonna breed a deep hatred for Americans, and eventually, would look just like Israel/Palestine.

you cant keep people from what they call there home.. no law, or bomb, or manipulation of media/history, or anything... can keep them from it


it's a matter of time. Israel's leaders know this., and any Israeli with his eyes open and can see past the end of his nose, knows this.
 
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it's not people vs people here.

it's not government vs government.

it's people vs one government in particular. (and said government has another gov't defending there backsides)
 
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You mean to tell me Mexico actively fires rockets and mortar bombs into the US on a daily basis?
 
JEDIYoda

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zanejohnson said:
it's like look, we understand, they're shooting rockets into Jeruselem... they killed......gasp..... 1 Israeli citizen so far

Israel retalliates with days on end of of bombing.. killing 1000's of civilians....

all the while this is breeding REAL antisemitism..

we have the same thing going on at our border... the Mexican border, imagine how it would look if we built a wall...

it doesn't make me a racist, or an anti Semite, to see that this is a recipe for disaster... we may hold em out for a while... but it's only gonna breed a deep hatred for Americans, and eventually, would look just like Israel/Palestine.

you cant keep people from what they call there home.. no law, or bomb, or manipulation of media/history, or anything... can keep them from it


it's a matter of time. Israel's leaders know this., and any Israeli with his eyes open and can see past the end of his nose, knows this.
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you have no clue other than to froth at the mouth like a blooming idiot....
Sit back and watch this...or read THIS--


http://news.yahoo.com/daily-caller-e...140209477.html

My own sentiments have been made known and are still true....
IMO the Palestinians people are their own worse enemy and should have known better than to elect Hamas to represent them.

IMO for their to be a lasting peace both side need to sit down with nothing on the table, no history, no expectations, only a sincere desire to achieve Peace!!

The following has been typed from this link -- http://news.yahoo.com/daily-caller-e...140209477.html

This is from a conversation between Bill Maher and a 3 person panel...most likely they are pro-Israel!!
Yet some good points are made!!First of all let me say that it is just tragic that Palestinian children and parents are dying! It is very sad...

But lets ask the bigger question -- Whose fault is it?If it`s your father or uncle or brother who is firing those rockets into Israel..whose fault is it really?


Do you really expect the israeli`s not to retaliate?

To understans this better we need to look at the Hamas Charter...which even though they took out article 10......their leaders as of 2012 had called for the destruction of Israel....(there is a link in one of the other threads)
Yet even now the charter calls for the murder of Jews in general...

Hamas doesn`t care if they kill Israeli citizens...but they don`t care if Palestinian civilians die...for Hamas until recently having Palestinians die has been a huge public relations coup for Hamas!! To Hamas that is a win, win!!

It has been said that Israel is using a missle defense system to protect its citizens and Hamas is using it`s citizens to protect it`s missles!

If Hamas had the opportunity they would kill the maximum number Israeli`s they could....
Yet Israel has the opportinity to kill way more people and they do not.....hmmm

An amazing fact -- I thought this was comical of sorts --
If you are israel you have to win every war or military engagement.....to continue to be Israel you cannot go 8 and 1.....

Jew have 150 + Nobel prizes and Muslims actually have 10??? What gives??

Perhaps the muslims have issues with science and
mathematics...etc.....or seeing their own people excel....

Then we have the fact that everybody wins when that region of the world is peaceful! At present nobody is winning....both sides will win when the region is in peace!!

The Palestinian people have made some very bad choices of their own leaders and are victimized by their leaders...

Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005.....it`s not occupying Gaza.
Then the palestinians elected Hamas in 2007!

Truth be told Israel doesn`t want to be in Gaza...Israel wants to take out tunnels and missle launchers and leave Gaza...

If hamas truly cared about the Palestinians people they would have built underground shelters for the people! Instead they built tunnels to smuggle and hide missle launchers...Nuff said....here is the piece that I took most of this information from....no I did not verify it..but most of the points are basic and true.....nobody cares about this that or who did what...these are things that matter presently.....

http://news.yahoo.com/daily-caller-e...140209477.html
 
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Abwx

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JEDIYoda said:
Jew have 150 + Nobel prizes and Muslims actually have 10??? What gives??

Perhaps the muslims have issues with science and
mathematics...etc.....or seeing their own people excel....
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Lol, nobels distributed by other jews, check Abdus Salam who saw Weinberg nominated with him even the latter did simply plagiarize Salam s theories thank to some..jewish professors..

As for the supposed jewish intellectualism, there was 12 jews out of 24 pupils in my class on high school, all were just average despite a ton of private courses to help them stay afloat..

But whatever, i wont negate that they excel when it comes to steale lands and perpetrate crimes against civilians.
 
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Abwx

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Harabec said:
You mean to tell me Mexico actively fires rockets and mortar bombs into the US on a daily basis?
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Still deflecting..?.

They send rockets inside their property that was stolen by the zionists who are using "civilians" as human shields by the way.
 
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Harabec

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Abwx said:
Still deflecting..?.

They send rockets inside their property that was stolen by the zionists who are using "civilians" as human shields by the way.
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You're insane. Believe whatever you'd like if it makes you happy.
 
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Abwx

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It s not like the israhelli military bases are in front of gaza, they are dissiminated on the whole of palestine , so if palestinians are to target them, and this is what they are doing actualy, they risk seeing their innacurrate rockets falling in urban areas and eventualy doing some unwanted collateral damage, but anyway no one could negate that israelis are used as a human shield...
 
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cubby1223

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zanejohnson said:
it's like look, we understand, they're shooting rockets into Jeruselem... they killed......gasp..... 1 Israeli citizen so far


Israel retalliates with days on end of of bombing.. killing 1000's of civilians....


all the while this is breeding REAL antisemitism..

we have the same thing going on at our border... the Mexican border, imagine how it would look if we built a wall...

it doesn't make me a racist, or an anti Semite, to see that this is a recipe for disaster... we may hold em out for a while... but it's only gonna breed a deep hatred for Americans, and eventually, would look just like Israel/Palestine.
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True, it doesn't. But this does:

you cant keep people from what they call there home.. no law, or bomb, or manipulation of media/history, or anything... can keep them from it

it's a matter of time. Israel's leaders know this., and any Israeli with his eyes open and can see past the end of his nose, knows this.
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