This is fscked up... restaurants adding added tip to your credit card billl

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TallBill

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Originally posted by: eelw
If you paid with plastic, why leave a cash tip???? Most likely, the waiter pocketed the cash, and when the manager looked at the receipt, added a 15% tip (which is illegal to do though) to your bill since he doesn't know you left a cash tip.

Uh, the restaurant i worked at which was fine dining just had the waiter's put the tips into the computer. The manager doesn't have time to add in 120 tips in a night.
 

eelw

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Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: eelw
If you paid with plastic, why leave a cash tip???? Most likely, the waiter pocketed the cash, and when the manager looked at the receipt, added a 15% tip (which is illegal to do though) to your bill since he doesn't know you left a cash tip.

Uh, the restaurant i worked at which was fine dining just had the waiter's put the tips into the computer. The manager doesn't have time to add in 120 tips in a night.

I don't care if it's the manager or not. Point is, the cash tip was pocketed and then a tip was illegally added since none was apparently left by the OP.
 

Dunbar

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A lot of times they run the total plus 15% to make sure the credit line is good. Than they go back and settle up later. Wait a few days and check online again before you jump to any conclusions.
 

Indolent

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Originally posted by: birdpup
This situation happened to me once at Outback Steakhouse in Rockford, Illinois for an improper $10 tip with $10 cash left on the table on a corporate card for a two person group this past summer.



If it's a corporate card, why leave a cash tip that you won't get reimbursed for?
 

SVT Cobra

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qwow that would seriosuly piss me off

GO BOYACOTT THEM WITH SIGNS

THEY WILL GET NO BUSSINESS!!!



JA!!!!!!!!
 

Plasdom

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if you signed for $30, it should be illegal. no company should arbitrarily tag on any amount for whatever they want. Have them refund it or dispute. That is shady. All restaurants I have been to have a slot under the actual bill where you write in the amount you wish to tip
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Read the credit card slip before you sign it?

that does not help.they do it AFTER you sign it. I had this happen twice so far.

Um the thing you sign is the receipt of the visa charges... unless you mean they make two charges... one for the food, then when you leave, they charge again for the tip. If so, that's highly illegal.

you need to eat out at other places then McDonalds.

they bring the reciept out for you to sign. it has a slot for Tip that you put in (i always put zero because i tip in cash) then they can go back and redo it.

as i said i have had it happen twice. Wich is why i keep the copy of the reciept to dispute the charge.
 

Jmman

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Originally posted by: Dunbar
A lot of times they run the total plus 15% to make sure the credit line is good. Than they go back and settle up later. Wait a few days and check online again before you jump to any conclusions.


Bingo!! Many places that accept tips automatically add 15% when the card is ran to make sure that the credit is available. Most likely when the charge is actually finalized it will have the correct amount.....
 

loup garou

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Originally posted by: Dunbar
A lot of times they run the total plus 15% to make sure the credit line is good. Than they go back and settle up later. Wait a few days and check online again before you jump to any conclusions.

 

Mike2002

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A lot of times they run the total plus 15% to make sure the credit line is good. Than they go back and settle up later. Wait a few days and check online again before you jump to any conclusions.

This happened to me the other month at a really nice restaurant. The extra amount was in there on the total that had not been confirmed yet on the website page. Once the charge got out of the "hold" or confirm stage, the total was set back down to the correct amount so I would assume this happened in your case.
 

TallBill

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Originally posted by: eelw
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: eelw
If you paid with plastic, why leave a cash tip???? Most likely, the waiter pocketed the cash, and when the manager looked at the receipt, added a 15% tip (which is illegal to do though) to your bill since he doesn't know you left a cash tip.

Uh, the restaurant i worked at which was fine dining just had the waiter's put the tips into the computer. The manager doesn't have time to add in 120 tips in a night.

I don't care if it's the manager or not. Point is, the cash tip was pocketed and then a tip was illegally added since none was apparently left by the OP.

Assuming the OP's memory is right, which it probably is, then of course something happened which raised the total amount. Checks could have been swapped, the wrong card could have been tipped, the $5 cash could have disappeared and the waitress might have felt wronged or the company might have some shady policy.

This is all a moot point. It doesn't matter how it happened. OP needs to call the restaurant, explain the situation and will probably get a fix. If not, avoid that restaurant and file a credit card dispute.
 

birdpup

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Originally posted by: Indolent
Originally posted by: birdpup
This situation happened to me once at Outback Steakhouse in Rockford, Illinois for an improper $10 tip with $10 cash left on the table on a corporate card for a two person group this past summer.



If it's a corporate card, why leave a cash tip that you won't get reimbursed for?

The bill was for two people on a business trip that should only have included one person. Leaving a cash tip, and paying part of the bill in cash, was a way to reduce the overall bill in an attempt to bring it back down to a single serving so the accountants would not ask why the bill was so large for a "single" person. :eek: We forgot to ask for separate bills when we arrived.
 

smack Down

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Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: eelw
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: eelw
If you paid with plastic, why leave a cash tip???? Most likely, the waiter pocketed the cash, and when the manager looked at the receipt, added a 15% tip (which is illegal to do though) to your bill since he doesn't know you left a cash tip.

Uh, the restaurant i worked at which was fine dining just had the waiter's put the tips into the computer. The manager doesn't have time to add in 120 tips in a night.

I don't care if it's the manager or not. Point is, the cash tip was pocketed and then a tip was illegally added since none was apparently left by the OP.

Assuming the OP's memory is right, which it probably is, then of course something happened which raised the total amount. Checks could have been swapped, the wrong card could have been tipped, the $5 cash could have disappeared and the waitress might have felt wronged or the company might have some shady policy.

This is all a moot point. It doesn't matter how it happened. OP needs to call the restaurant, explain the situation and will probably get a fix. If not, avoid that restaurant and file a credit card dispute.

The OP should just dispute it with the credit card company. That way he will not only get his 4.96 back but most likely the whole amount and will get to screw the resturant.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Mike2002
A lot of times they run the total plus 15% to make sure the credit line is good. Than they go back and settle up later. Wait a few days and check online again before you jump to any conclusions.

This happened to me the other month at a really nice restaurant. The extra amount was in there on the total that had not been confirmed yet on the website page. Once the charge got out of the "hold" or confirm stage, the total was set back down to the correct amount so I would assume this happened in your case.

This is the correct answer.

So many of you are throwing a fit over nothing at all.

Come back in a week or two and tell us what the real charge is. Not what the pre-approved charge amount is that happens to be showing up within a day or two of the charge.
 
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Originally posted by: Lyfer
Only time I seen this is when you have 5 or more in a group.

I've only seen it with 8+ people and it's usually soemthing they point out to you so you don't tip twice.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: hypn0tik
Originally posted by: C6FT7
Sheesh you're fretting over five dollars. Get over it!

It's a matter of principle.

It's a matter of ignorance. The amount he sees showing up online right now is the PRE-APPROVAL the restaurant sent in. That is NOT the final amount debited from his account.

 

mugs

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How long ago was this? It was possibly just an authorization for that amount, if so it will be adjusted in a few days.

Threads like this come up all the time, and every single time that is the case.
 

gotsmack

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next time if you leave a cash tip put a line through the part where you put in the tip and carry the amount down to the total line.
 

beach2nd

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Originally posted by: gotsmack
next time if you leave a cash tip put a line through the part where you put in the tip and carry the amount down to the total line.

QFT
 

Kanalua

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Originally posted by: mugs
How long ago was this? It was possibly just an authorization for that amount, if so it will be adjusted in a few days.

Threads like this come up all the time, and every single time that is the case.

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