Third Republican Debate

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HomerJS

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Feb 6, 2002
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Questions were stupid. lame stream media in the bag for dems. Hillary sucks.

Should cover it.

Did you watch the Dem debate

For Hillary: Moderator brought up gay marriage, Keystone, TPP and noted Hillary's position change and asked, "will you say anything to get elected"

Geez will righties blame the media for everything? What happened to taking responsibility?
 
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I would agree but I think that question is a totally bullshit and pointless question to ask at a nationally televised debate.
Personally I thought that how kasich answered it was a brilliant strategical move on his part that allowed him to set the tone and to make sure he got heard.

It is, I agree, but at least give a bullshit or semi-bullshit answer. I come to expect that with politicians. LITERALLY taking a COMPLETELY different topic is mind bogglingly stupid. It says the following:

1. I don't have an answer or am too scared to give one
2. I don't listen to authority, such as moderators that tell me "Talk about x"
3. I don't like debating with other people, because since this is a side-topic no one will be able to argue against me if they listen to the moderators.

I think of all things answers like Trump's was acceptable. It was mostly bullshit, but it was better than side-stepping.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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Did you watch the Dem debate

For Hillary: Moderator brought up gay marriage, Keystone, TPP and noted Hillary's position change and asked, "will you say anything to get elected"

Geez will righties blame the media for everything? What happened to taking responsibility?

That was satire;)


I might add that it was really good satire because it even fooled you!
 

Sonikku

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Jun 23, 2005
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One HUGE flaw in everything these republicans propose....

That sure, a private 401K might by itself without social security be fine for retirement, and sure doing away with medicare replacing with private accounts might be fine in theory, and all these things republican proposed would be fine ...."if".... and only if the working middle class had a decent living wage.

All these republicans dare fight against a decent living wage and then have the nerve to claim more people are on welfare under Obama, more mothers and women are unemployed, under Obama.
The reason some people are doing so bad is not nor never has been Obama, it is that republicans, these republicans, expect the poor to pull a decent living wage out of their own ass.

You can not do anything the republicans want, these republican proposals, unless the working middle class and the poor people have a decent living wage to invest into retirement, invest into private medicare, to invest into college, to raise their families.

NONE of which any of these republicans correctly did their math which is needed to equal their pie in the sky proposals.
The equation must always end with.... A DECENT LIVING WAGE.
No middle class worker can meet these republican set goals on $7.25 an hour.
Who is fooling who here?

Should the republicans gain control of all three sectors of government, life for everyone will become MUCH WORSE as all the social safety nets are ripped and stripped away by a republican controlled government.

Ever the top 1% would suffer under republicans because if there is no one to buy their goods and pay back their loans and make the car payments, even the top 1% will suffer under this republican YOUR ON YOUR OWN continuing trickle down economics scheme.

Continuing the illusion of Reagan's trickle down economics, ripping away the safety nets government provides and turning it over to the wage earners wallet would require a huge increase in the living wage for that wage earners wallet.
And THAT increase for a living wage every republicans on stage fought has against tooth and nail.

What this boils down to is more republican fantasy economics.
Where the middle class has about as much chance surviving during a republican economy as they would surviving on fantasy football.

And holy crap... Ben Carson.
Carson's math. Carson's logic.
Dividing the medicare budget by seniors on medicare to equal $12,000 per senior.
The doing away with medicare and giving seniors $12,000 per year to spend on their care.

Carson idiot thinking and math does not take into account that in reality, some seniors might spend $12,000 or less on a years healthcare, but what happens to the senior that must spend $300,000 in one year?
That senior who suffers a stroke or heart attack or fall or illness?

$12,000 for a stroke is NOT going to do it.....Ben.
Sorry Dr Carson. You're an TOTAL idiot.
Operate on your own brain for a change.
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Don't get sick. And if you do, die quickly and quietly.
 

Zorkorist

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We used to be able to afford nurses, that would comfort the sick and dying.

Today, health care, the business, the socialized Governmental, taxed platform, that is driving us into debt, provides these numb, barely speaking English, "things."

-John
 

kage69

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Jul 17, 2003
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Where are the righties at? I want to hear their take.


At the bottom of a bottle? Politicians like these are enough to drive a man to drink. You'll probably have more feedback once they've recovered or forced themselves to accept their shitty cards.


I'll watch it eventually, although after the last two debates all I felt was sympathy for GOP voters and a bit robbed of my time, so maybe not. Sounds like I didn't miss much at all.
 

Bitek

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I did love the complaint about the fluff of the media when they were just using it as a dodge to answer to any specifics of their proposals.

The one blond moderator tore up Carson's tax plan as complete fantasy math (it is) and he dithers about magic asterisks and regulations and promises it makes sense (it doesn't.)

Cruz gets asked about the budget deal, and he wasted the entire time complaining about the big bad media.

Of course the audience howls in support, just like gang of trained monkeys, not realizing they just got rooked out of a substantive answer to a serious question.

But he's really upset the moderators are not taking this seriously...o_O
 

Bitek

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I was also struck how much a non factor Carson was for being front runner.

Fox took Trump seriously and went right after him in the guest debate.

Carson had less time than Chucklebee? Amazing to watch someone so unengaged, if your between happened to remind you to think about him.
 

sportage

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Don't get sick. And if you do, die quickly and quietly.

Yeah. I want to see the doctor/hospital that accepts $12.000 for treating one heart attack.
Or even $12,000 for one night hospitalized from a simple fainting spell that old people often suffer from.
Would Dr Ben accept $12,000 for brain neurosurgery?

The way insurance works, and that includes big bad guberment medicare insurance, is that some patients require more, and some require less.
Works the same for automobile insurance.
And home owners insurance.
And for all types of insurance, which obviously this concept of insurance Dr Carson needs some schooling on.

Oh well... What republicans forget, and this is their flaw, they too will grow old and need medicare.
And $12,000 per patient taint gona do it...
 

Zorkorist

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I've paid into Medicare and Social Security my entire, 40 year working life.

But the program I have paid into is insolvent.

Yeah! Government!

-John
 

Indus

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I've paid into Medicare and Social Security my entire, 40 year working life.

But the program I have paid into is insolvent.

Yeah! Government!

-John

You fucking deserve it for being a conservative and voting Republican which stole the Medicare and Social Security money to fund Israel and wars in Iraq over Americans.

Yeah Government at it's very fucking finest!
 

Slew Foot

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Yeah. I want to see the doctor/hospital that accepts $12.000 for treating one heart attack.
Or even $12,000 for one night hospitalized from a simple fainting spell that old people often suffer from.
Would Dr Ben accept $12,000 for brain neurosurgery?

The way insurance works, and that includes big bad guberment medicare insurance, is that some patients require more, and some require less.
Works the same for automobile insurance.
And home owners insurance.
And for all types of insurance, which obviously this concept of insurance Dr Carson needs some schooling on.

Oh well... What republicans forget, and this is their flaw, they too will grow old and need medicare.
And $12,000 per patient taint gona do it...

Im guessing that 12,000 doesnt include the option of buying a secondary insurance plan. Kinda like having medicare plus a secondary? I wonder what the actual cost to the government for one month of medicare for one patient is.
 

Zorkorist

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You do know we have been spending into deficit since Ronald Reagan?

It's Government, liberal Government, that is spending us past where we can ever recover from.

Government like Obama's, but certainly not only his, Government.

-John
 
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Zorkorist

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Im guessing that 12,000 doesnt include the option of buying a secondary insurance plan. Kinda like having medicare plus a secondary? I wonder what the actual cost to the government for one month of medicare for one patient is.
When my Mom was in a nursing home, they charged her $8,000/month.

-John
 

sportage

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Where are the righties at? I want to hear their take.

The righties are still trying to figure out WHAT THE HELL WAS THIS?
Sounded like a democrat debate, yet Hillary was played by Christie?
Burnie played by Rand(y) Paul?
Republicans pro middle class?
Republicans against big business, CEO's, AND against Wall Street?
Oh the right wing humanity.....
 

Zorkorist

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Nope, as you might imagine, I helped my Mom, Nurses, and to the extent I could, other patients.

-John
 

Zorkorist

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The righties are still trying to figure out WHAT THE HELL WAS THIS?
Sounded like a democrat debate, yet Hillary was played by Christie?
Burnie played by Rand(y) Paul?
Republicans pro middle class?
Republicans against big business, CEO's, AND against Wall Street?
Oh the right wing humanity.....
There's really no difference today between Republican Government or Democrat Government.

Both are authoritarian regimes, that spend without limit, and squash individuality underneath their jack boot.

-John
 

pcgeek11

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You fucking deserve it for being a conservative and voting Republican which stole the Medicare and Social Security money to fund Israel and wars in Iraq over Americans.

Yeah Government at it's very fucking finest!


Oh yes. [sarcasm] The Democrats had nothing to do with this at all. [\sarcasm]
 

cubby1223

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May 24, 2004
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Where are the righties at? I want to hear their take.

Personally I spent my evening working to build up my future so that I won't be dependent on the whims of government.

You and a few others I see chose to spend the evening divulging in hatred.

Enjoy :D
 

cubby1223

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You fucking deserve it for being a conservative and voting Republican which stole the Medicare and Social Security money to fund Israel and wars in Iraq over Americans.

Yeah Government at it's very fucking finest!

How little is left of the bottle you were drinking? Seriously, we're worried about you.
 

ivwshane

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Personally I spent my evening working to build up my future so that I won't be dependent on the whims of government.

You and a few others I see chose to spend the evening divulging in hatred.

Enjoy :D

Makes sense, righties never really seem to care who they vote for so long as there is an R next to the name.
 

Indus

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May 11, 2002
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How little is left of the bottle you were drinking? Seriously, we're worried about you.

ISRAEL ISRAEL ISRAEL BOMB IRAN BOMB IRAN BOMB IRAN.. Isn't that what the GOP does at every turn? Truth hurts, doesn't it?

How about americans who are starving first? No fuck the working middle class living in poverty!