there's more precision in fahreinheit, why do others keep using celsius?

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MotF Bane

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As far as C vs F vs K is concerned

F is part of a completely arbitrary system. Consisting of Fixed values amongst the Whole of the measuring system, that being the Imperial System. This requires the Memorization of not only Values, but even Mathematic Formulas for Conversion between different measures within a certain type of Measurement: For eg: inches/ft/yards/Miles are all Arbitrary amounts within Distance; Ounces/Pints/Quarts/Gallons are all Arbitrary amounts within Volume.

C is part of a Mathematical system. All Fixed Values are derived through Mathematics and not some long dead persons dimensions(like much of the measurements used in the Imperial system). Not only are the Fixed Values Mathematically defined, but all the various ways of stating a Measurement are Mathematically related. For eg: mm/cm/dm/M/KM are all easily derived through simple Mathematics, 1000mm=100cm=10dm=1M=0.0001KM.

Not only are C measurements Mathematical within a particular measurement type(Volume, Distance, Temperature), but there are extensive Mathematical relationships between the measurement types. This allows for Verification of the various Measures, thus giving the Metric system a high degree of Accuracy and a strong Scientific basis.

K is also a Mathematical system. Fixed Values are based on Absolutes, which makes it the most accurate of any system. This is very useful for Science and particularly for certain fields of Science that require measurements close to the Absolute.

It's not so good for Day-to-day common usage though. Mainly because it lacks the intuitiveness of F or C. For eg: 0C/32F=273K, 50C/122F=323K, both C/F give values that make more sense to People and their everyday lives, simply because 0C or near 0F denotes a point of significant change. 0C approaches a Danger point as does 50C.

If everyone used and were taught K, I suppose "Intuitiveness" wouldn't matter so much, but it would seem to be as Arbitrary a Temp Measuring system for Day-to-Day Life as F. Add in that Conversions from C to K is relatively simple and you have little reason to replace C with K.

***Not a Mathematician, Rocket Scientist, College Grad, recent High School Grad, nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn last night. Just from what I remember and/or have picked up over the years. I'm sure some of it is wrong or not entirely accurate, but it's basically correctish.***

They're all Arbitrary. Will you Understand that with Random Capitals tossed in to Help you?
 

Jeff7

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Wow, my hand now has an imprint on it of my face, just from reading a few posts.



Pop quiz!
a) "Fahrenheit is more accurate than Celsius."

b) "Chickens of garble the camp goat artwork."


Which sentence makes more sense?

(hint: trick question)




The metric length system is based on the length of a metal (platinum i think?) rod at a certain temperature equaling 1 meter, IIRC. All other divisions (kilo, centi, milli, etc.) are simply multiples or fractions of the defined base unit (1 meter). The meter was also defined at one point based on the distance between the north and south poles, I think.
I think it was based on that, but now it's based on light.
Gewgle says: "In 1983, the metre was redefined as the distance travelled by light in free space in 1⁄299,792,458 of a second."So that way, you don't need to cart around a precious chunk of platinum, and keep it at juuuust the right environmental conditions to ensure dimensional stability.
You just need a very accurate timer, and a light source - badda-bing, you're set to say "THIS is one meter!" anywhere in the world.
 
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Sea Moose

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F is no more "precise" than C. You can use either to whatever precision you want. C seems in inherently easier to use with easy to understand reference points. 0 = freeze. 100 = boil. (at least for water).

This



Also, shame on you americans for maintaining your old systems of measurement,


From point A to B is about 12mm easy right?

or in your language it is half of an inch. wtf?


metric is easier you silly yanks!
 

adlep

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F is retarted and it should be not used.

Why?

What does the 0 and 100 represent in Fahrenheit?

Answer: Some random bullshit: Praise the lord, Darwin is wrong, Universe is 6000 years old.

What does the 0 and 100 represent in C?

Answer: Freezing and Boiling Point of Water, the most common substance in our world (our body is 70% water). Water in turn is composed out of the most common substance in the Universe which is hydrogen.

C wins. Only stupid US rednecks use F.
 

sdifox

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Considering how cold some parts of our universe are, that would mean our day-to-day temperature would be a few thousand degrees. Yes, that sounds like a brilliant idea.

a few hundred K, better not be thousands or we are not talking global warming, rather global fusion. C=K-273.15.
 

daw123

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F is retarted and it should be not used.

Why?

What does the 0 and 100 represent in Fahrenheit?

Answer: Some random bullshit: Praise the lord, Darwin is wrong, Universe is 6000 years old.

What does the 0 and 100 represent in C?

Answer: Freezing and Boiling Point of Water, the most common substance in our world (our body is 70% water). Water in turn is composed out of the most common substance in the Universe which is hydrogen.

C wins. Only stupid US rednecks use F.

LOL. You're going to get flames for that post.

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sandorski

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I don't understand your point here. The system as a whole is the subject of the above paragraphs without any real discussion of the particular unit of measurement in question. I've never heard of a "milliCelsius" or a "kiloCelsius" and I don't think anyone uses those. How is celsius dervied mathematically any more than Fahrenheit? In either case you can get a baseline by boiling or freezing water in a lab setting with specific conditions.

You could have millCelsius or KiloCelsius. The "milli" and "kilo" merely represent the order of magnitude. You also never hear the term of decimeter or Decameter, yet both those are actual Metric Distances. They just are not commonly used terms/denominations. Celsius doesn't get used with the Prefixes mainly because Temperature has a very limited range compared to Distance or Volume.
 
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F is not arbitrary although I admit C is the superior scale.

Anything below 0 is Fucking cold. Anything above triple digits is Fucking hot. That's why it's F. And it's cold/hot for US. You could say triple digits C is freaking hot but you'd be dead by then. Meanwhile I have to figure out if 45C is too hot for me or not, but it seems like that's a balmy sunny day in Baghdad.
 

silverpig

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I propose we come up with a 'U' system of measurement which is more scientific than F but less so than C. Then we can order the systems in terms of "sciency-ness" and all have a larf.
 

ConstipatedVigilante

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They are not all Equally Arbitrary. F being by far the most Arbitrary, as in Completely Arbitrary.

Completely Arbitrary? Or completely Awesome? Now, the thing about Fahrenheit, much like Random Capitals, is that the Founding Fathers used it. And nothing they did was Arbitrary. Fahrenheit actually bases its important Measurements on where the Capitals lie in the Declaration of Independence to drive home the insult to King George. Therefore, Fahrenheit is the American way, and any dissenters should be treated as Traitors. Everyone Knows This.
 

sandorski

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Completely Arbitrary? Or completely Awesome? Now, the thing about Fahrenheit, much like Random Capitals, is that the Founding Fathers used it. And nothing they did was Arbitrary. Fahrenheit actually bases its important Measurements on where the Capitals lie in the Declaration of Independence to drive home the insult to King George. Therefore, Fahrenheit is the American way, and any dissenters should be treated as Traitors. Everyone Knows This.

wUt YoU sAy?
 

iGas

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0C = water freeze
100 = water boil
1 cubic meter water = 1000 Litter of water = 1000 Kilograms
1 Metric tonne = 1000 Kilograms
1 Kilometer = 1000 Meters = 1,000,000 Millimeters
1 Joule = 1 Newton = 1 Watts/Second
1 Kilowatt = 1000 Watts
1 Kilopascal = 1000 pascal = 1 Kilonewton/square meter

32F = water freeze
212F = water boil
1 cubic foot water = 7.48051945 gallons = 62.42796 pounds = 998.84736 ounces
1 mile = 1760 yards = 5280 feet = 63360 inches
[SIZE=-1]1 ton = 20 [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]hundredweights = [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]80 quarters = [/SIZE]160 stones = 2240 pounds = 35840 ounces
1 acre = 4 roods = 160 poles = 4840 square yards = 43560 square feet = 6272640 square inches

Can you see how retarded the imperial system is, and I'm not going to bother with BTU, candle power, horses, PSI, etc...

PS. You are a dinosaur that will soon extinct because the world move on to something that is easier to use thus minimizes calculation error.

I was born in the Metric system, but living here in Canada we are force to use the retarded imperial system because the stupid/old American cant learn new tricks.
 

iGas

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wUt YoU sAy?
He is saying that the American way is the backward way like Amish.

My impression of America is wrong all these years. It is not the greatest land in the world where progress & change is not embrace by the culture and founders. :rolleyes:
 

sdifox

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0C = water freeze
100 = water boil
1 cubic meter water = 1000 Litter of water = 1000 Kilograms
1 Metric tonne = 1000 Kilograms
1 Kilometer = 1000 Meters = 1,000,000 Millimeters
1 Joule = 1 Newton = 1 Watts/Second
1 Kilowatt = 1000 Watts
1 Kilopascal = 1000 pascal = 1 Kilonewton/square meter

32F = water freeze
212F = water boil
1 cubic foot water = 7.48051945 gallons = 62.42796 pounds = 998.84736 ounces
1 mile = 1760 yards = 5280 feet = 63360 inches
[SIZE=-1]1 ton = 20 [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]hundredweights = [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]80 quarters = [/SIZE]160 stones = 2240 pounds = 35840 ounces
1 acre = 4 roods = 160 poles = 4840 square yards = 43560 square feet = 6272640 square inches

Can you see how retarded the imperial system is, and I'm not going to bother with BTU, candle power, horses, PSI, etc...

PS. You are a dinosaur that will soon extinct because the world move on to something that is easier to use thus minimizes calculation error.

I was born in the Metric system, but living here in Canada we are force to use the retarded imperial system because the stupid/old American cant learn new tricks.

I don't think it is entirely their fault. The older folks here don't get metric either.
 

MotF Bane

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Completely Arbitrary? Or completely Awesome? Now, the thing about Fahrenheit, much like Random Capitals, is that the Founding Fathers used it. And nothing they did was Arbitrary. Fahrenheit actually bases its important Measurements on where the Capitals lie in the Declaration of Independence to drive home the insult to King George. Therefore, Fahrenheit is the American way, and any dissenters should be treated as Traitors. Everyone Knows This.

lol
 

iGas

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I don't think it is entirely their fault. The older folks here don't get metric either.
The frustration that I have to deal with daily is that all architectural drawings are in scale metrics, mechanical specs can be 1/2 in metric and 1/2 in imperial specially volume, pressure, and flow rate.

It is a pain in the arse that I have to constantly convert from one system to another, and then have all machine made in the US with specs in what ever imperial scales that the manufacture feels like printing it in. Then there are curve balls that I have to deal with is that some machines that are from the EU that are in metric that have to be mate into the rest of the system that are in imperial.

Not only that I have to deal with machine that have different voltage & HZ rate, I have to deal with flow/pressure/temperature all in different measurement. Sometime it is such a cluster fuck that I have to take a day to clear my mind so that I don't make mistake with conversions.

<--- plumbing/gas/HVAC mech, specialize in geothermal
 
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