spacejamz
Lifer
- Mar 31, 2003
- 10,984
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And we would especially like to welcome all the representatives of Illinois's law enforcement community who have chosen to join us here in the Palace Hotel Ballroom at this time...
And we would especially like to welcome all the representatives of Illinois's law enforcement community who have chosen to join us here in the Palace Hotel Ballroom at this time...
pcgeek11
Lifer
- Jun 12, 2005
- 22,387
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Those figures actually take into account streaming. I believe they sold like 250,000 albums digitally and then the rest was from their factored equivalent for number of streams.
Not sure what you think I was freaked out by? A 4" display and tinny speaker embedded in a cheap cardboard CD sleeve case is supposed to freak me out? I never said anything with regards to the quality of Tool's music (its fine, they have some good songs I've listened to them off and on over the years as part of a general mix of some of that style of music), or videos or anything, which is what you seem to be inferring from me joking about people trying to brag because a band they like outsold the significantly weaker 2nd week of some pop star. Which, if you think I'm freaked out by Tool (with fans probably aching for a new album for over a decade) would out do a 2nd week of Taylor Swift then that's even more silly. I actually rather enjoy that fact, I just think its sad/stupid that Tool fans are trying to brag about it like it validates them, when Taylor Swift objectively kicked Tool's ass in opening week sales, more than tripling theirs.
Which, lulz at you trying to insult me by calling me a square. Well shit, guess the time when its hip to be square is over.
Hey daddy-o, sit on it, I'm gonna go to the malt shop! Aaaaaay pops collar on my leather jacket before pulling my switchblade comb and running it through my greased hairI think you missed my point. Adele is blowing away everyone, even pop stars (who are doing better than say bands like Tool but still aren't doing anywhere remotely close to what they used to). No one is close, not Beyonce, not Kanye, not Taylor Swift, not...I don't even know what the other big name acts are these days. No one is close. But no one other than Adele is selling 10million+ Hell, Adele had one album be top selling 2 years in a row when the album came out very early (January) in the first year (2011, it sold 18 million, then sold 8 million in 2012 to stay the top selling album of 2012). Then her next one sold almost 17.5million its year. Beyonce's album the year after sold 2.5million to give you an idea.
Those last two numbers include streaming figures (based on some equation for factoring those in), by the way, so you can't dismiss it with that.
Hahaha, you Tool fans sure are a sensitive bunch. (What do Tool fans refer to themselves as, Tools? Ha ha, I made a funny!) Well, you might not be much of a Tool fan and instead are just a pathetic bitch with poor reading comprehension.
I hate the packaging because its chintzy as shit and they want people to pay $45 for it. Its the equivalent of those shitty things they used to push to kids (those awful Tiger games, or the later ones where they'd have like single song MP3 players; frankly its cheaper than those even and arguably is closer to prizes you get out of a cereal box - I think some even tried similar; I remember some stuff that used to embed a cheap calculator in their packaging). Its the type of thing I'd expect from some pop musician where their video where they dance around half naked is likely responsible for half their appeal. Not for what was an edgy hard rock/metal band. This wasn't some cool concept album visual tie-in like The Wall. I'm almost surprised they didn't make it a VR headset thing, at least then it'd facilitate listening via headphones (which will sound much better than the speaker) and could do something extra interesting visually (which I think could play in well with their sorta 3D eye puzzle visual style of the video). It'd still be chintzy though, but at least it'd be somewhat interesting.
Its mostly what you'd used to be able to get from like a $20 "special edition" of other albums (extra tracks, some nicer artwork with a nice liner notes/art booklet, bit fancier looking case), with a crappy display and speaker (with battery) included so you can watch some low quality version of their math shapes made of eyes art (to be fair they must know their audience, I'm guessing a bunch of their fans rocked similar CGI art stuff on their Trapper Keepers back in the 90s). Well that and it reminds me of the original Xbox dashboard if the marketing team behind some of the Playstation 3 ones with the creepy baby doll (or maybe, to tie in with the recent 20th anniversary, the Dreamcast "Its learning" campaign) made it.
It sold out because I think it was the only physical copy available at launch and was produced in limited quantities (so its a collector's item).
Would you pay $45 for that? Only reason I would is to keep it sealed in package so I could sell it to some Tool fan for probably 10x the amount later. Then again I wouldn't even gamble on it for that since it seems like it'd be pretty easy to counterfeit.
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Which Generation are you? I used both Prude and Square when I was going up during the 80's and early 90's. I do believe that both terms were around long before us.I think they should make their own terms and quit using ours.
@pcgeek11 is from like, the 1780's...BC. Everything comes from his generation.Which Generation are you? I used both Prude and Square when I was going up during the 80's and early 90's. I do believe that both terms were around long before us.
snoopy7548
Diamond Member
- Jan 1, 2005
- 8,277
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Those figures actually take into account streaming. I believe they sold like 250,000 albums digitally and then the rest was from their factored equivalent for number of streams.
Not sure what you think I was freaked out by? A 4" display and tinny speaker embedded in a cheap cardboard CD sleeve case is supposed to freak me out? I never said anything with regards to the quality of Tool's music (its fine, they have some good songs I've listened to them off and on over the years as part of a general mix of some of that style of music), or videos or anything, which is what you seem to be inferring from me joking about people trying to brag because a band they like outsold the significantly weaker 2nd week of some pop star. Which, if you think I'm freaked out by Tool (with fans probably aching for a new album for over a decade) would out do a 2nd week of Taylor Swift then that's even more silly. I actually rather enjoy that fact, I just think its sad/stupid that Tool fans are trying to brag about it like it validates them, when Taylor Swift objectively kicked Tool's ass in opening week sales, more than tripling theirs.
Which, lulz at you trying to insult me by calling me a square. Well shit, guess the time when its hip to be square is over.
I think you missed my point. Adele is blowing away everyone, even pop stars (who are doing better than say bands like Tool but still aren't doing anywhere remotely close to what they used to). No one is close, not Beyonce, not Kanye, not Taylor Swift, not...I don't even know what the other big name acts are these days. No one is close. But no one other than Adele is selling 10million+ Hell, Adele had one album be top selling 2 years in a row when the album came out very early (January) in the first year (2011, it sold 18 million, then sold 8 million in 2012 to stay the top selling album of 2012). Then her next one sold almost 17.5million its year. Beyonce's album the year after sold 2.5million to give you an idea.
Those last two numbers include streaming figures (based on some equation for factoring those in), by the way, so you can't dismiss it with that.
Hahaha, you Tool fans sure are a sensitive bunch. (What do Tool fans refer to themselves as, Tools? Ha ha, I made a funny!) Well, you might not be much of a Tool fan and instead are just a pathetic bitch with poor reading comprehension.
I hate the packaging because its chintzy as shit and they want people to pay $45 for it. Its the equivalent of those shitty things they used to push to kids (those awful Tiger games, or the later ones where they'd have like single song MP3 players; frankly its cheaper than those even and arguably is closer to prizes you get out of a cereal box - I think some even tried similar; I remember some stuff that used to embed a cheap calculator in their packaging). Its the type of thing I'd expect from some pop musician where their video where they dance around half naked is likely responsible for half their appeal. Not for what was an edgy hard rock/metal band. This wasn't some cool concept album visual tie-in like The Wall. I'm almost surprised they didn't make it a VR headset thing, at least then it'd facilitate listening via headphones (which will sound much better than the speaker) and could do something extra interesting visually (which I think could play in well with their sorta 3D eye puzzle visual style of the video). It'd still be chintzy though, but at least it'd be somewhat interesting.
Its mostly what you'd used to be able to get from like a $20 "special edition" of other albums (extra tracks, some nicer artwork with a nice liner notes/art booklet, bit fancier looking case), with a crappy display and speaker (with battery) included so you can watch some low quality version of their math shapes made of eyes art (to be fair they must know their audience, I'm guessing a bunch of their fans rocked similar CGI art stuff on their Trapper Keepers back in the 90s). Well that and it reminds me of the original Xbox dashboard if the marketing team behind some of the Playstation 3 ones with the creepy baby doll (or maybe, to tie in with the recent 20th anniversary, the Dreamcast "Its learning" campaign) made it.
It sold out because I think it was the only physical copy available at launch and was produced in limited quantities (so its a collector's item).
Would you pay $45 for that? Only reason I would is to keep it sealed in package so I could sell it to some Tool fan for probably 10x the amount later. Then again I wouldn't even gamble on it for that since it seems like it'd be pretty easy to counterfeit.
tl;dr Why are people interested in things that I'm not interested in?
Every once in a while there's an artist that blows everything else out of the water. Ever hear of Michael Jackson?
Of course as he was very popular during his heyday. Speaking of which, did he actually do the things he gotten sued for, or he only believe he was still a boy?tl;dr Why are people interested in things that I'm not interested in?
Every once in a while there's an artist that blows everything else out of the water. Ever hear of Michael Jackson?
Fanatical Meat
Lifer
- Feb 4, 2009
- 35,862
- 17,405
- 136
Off topic, watched some videos from the tool time.
I’ve always preferred NIN.
I forgot about this song, I forgot about the chaos and all the microphones being handed to Trent.
Him wobbling around and knocking around the other instruments is what I remember about the live show
I’ve always preferred NIN.
I forgot about this song, I forgot about the chaos and all the microphones being handed to Trent.
Him wobbling around and knocking around the other instruments is what I remember about the live show
nakedfrog
No Lifer
- Apr 3, 2001
- 63,092
- 19,405
- 136
Lots of things.
STP > Korn. All the Korn that ever really needed to exist was the first half of their debut album.
But TBF, the only STP albums that really justify their existence are the first two, with a few decent tracks on the third.
I'd wager fair money those "idiots" are more intelligent than you.
Hm, interesting.
I wasn't talking to you for that part of the post, you probably have pcgeek11 on ignore so my quote of his post didn't show up?Not sure what you think I was freaked out by? A 4" display and tinny speaker embedded in a cheap cardboard CD sleeve case is supposed to freak me out? I never said anything with regards to the quality of Tool's music (its fine, they have some good songs I've listened to them off and on over the years as part of a general mix of some of that style of music), or videos or anything, which is what you seem to be inferring from me joking about people trying to brag because a band they like outsold the significantly weaker 2nd week of some pop star. Which, if you think I'm freaked out by Tool (with fans probably aching for a new album for over a decade) would out do a 2nd week of Taylor Swift then that's even more silly. I actually rather enjoy that fact, I just think its sad/stupid that Tool fans are trying to brag about it like it validates them, when Taylor Swift objectively kicked Tool's ass in opening week sales, more than tripling theirs.
Which, lulz at you trying to insult me by calling me a square. Well shit, guess the time when its hip to be square is over.
Likewise.
Such as? If I am actually autistic the I wouldn't have let my close relatives and friends hug me or shook hands with anyone now would I?
nakedfrog
No Lifer
- Apr 3, 2001
- 63,092
- 19,405
- 136
Not necessarily, autism isn't a binary, it's a scale.
You seem to be extremely deficient in social abilities.
dainthomas
Lifer
- Dec 7, 2004
- 14,943
- 3,928
- 136
But those two albums were fantastic. I still listen to them occasionally.
Just got me thinking about all the lead singers from the major grunge bands from the early 90's who we've lost. Basically only Eddie Vedder is left.
I know autism is on a scale and every autism person I've met didn't like to be touched at all and were only interested in one single thing, sometimes two.
nakedfrog
No Lifer
- Apr 3, 2001
- 63,092
- 19,405
- 136
Yeah, I'm happy I got to see them on the Purple tour, it was an amazing show.
That's fine, I know autistic folks that are okay with touching, they're HFA, of course (the general consensus is that I'm probably one as well).
UsandThem
Elite Member
- May 4, 2000
- 16,068
- 7,383
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A lot of Tool fans are super annoying. Some of the band members were receiving death threats (mainly Maynard) because the lack of a new album until recently. That's probably one of the reasons Maynard now sings from the back area of the stage.......So he doesn't have to deal with the assholes.
IronWing
No Lifer
- Jul 20, 2001
- 73,188
- 34,523
- 136
Fanatical Meat
Lifer
- Feb 4, 2009
- 35,862
- 17,405
- 136
UsandThem
Elite Member
- May 4, 2000
- 16,068
- 7,383
- 146
Fanatical Meat
Lifer
- Feb 4, 2009
- 35,862
- 17,405
- 136
BudAshes
Lifer
- Jul 20, 2003
- 13,996
- 3,357
- 146
Agreed.
BS
Was that her right before she was murdered by that guy?
Fanatical Meat
Lifer
- Feb 4, 2009
- 35,862
- 17,405
- 136
BudAshes
Lifer
- Jul 20, 2003
- 13,996
- 3,357
- 146
Lol, that stare down is pretty brutal.
Taylor swift is ok looking, sort of weaselly face and not as much T&A as I prefer. She has a very middle america, country music star look. And obviously those pointy elbows aren't helping her...
Perhaps, but that doesn't mean much. She is typical pop/country crap that is prevalent nowadays. yawn
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