The Unofficial Memory Foam/Visco Elastic/NASA Pillow Thread

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minerat

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Originally posted by: zvadim
Second ? this is my first contoured foam pillow and I find it takes some getting used to. For one I?m not sure whether the higher curved part goes under my neck or the lower curved one. I tried it both ways and can?t quite decide what is better: with the lower curve under my neck it feels a tad better except the top of my head pushes against the higher curve ?which is not too comfy. On the other hand if I place the higher curve under my neck ? it seems to lead to me waking up with it sore. Hmm? :confused:

I've been having the same problem with the sensus pillow; i'm not sure which way to sleep on them. I had an old select comfort contoured pillow that I adjusted to perfectly fine. I find that laying on my back, the high side is ok, but on my side, it's too high. The low side seems good for side sleeping, but to get it where i want it to be, the top of my head ends up pushing against the high side. I think I would be happier with a normal sensus pillow.

The mattress pad is absolutely perfect though, not a single complaint. And as SpotDancer said, they are heaaavy. Hey SpotDancer, maybe you can mention to foambymail that many people find the shape of the sensus pillow uncomfortable / not fitting correctly. I assume they're using their own mould; I haven't been able to even find anyone else with sensu pillows.
 

SpotDancer

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When I first got the Sensus pillow I also had a night or two where I could not figure out the best way for me to use it. I tried the low side, the high side, and the flat side. The flat side seemed to work best for me (Iam a side sleeper) but I finally found out that the best way for me to use the pillow was to just put my head ON THE TOP of the high side, and not try to fit the contour under my neck. I now only use the pillow this way and it is working great for me!
 

gspyer

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This is true and you do have a very good point. I kind of wondered how good these foam beds were for sex. Anybody else care to share their experiences?

*praying he doesn't get into trouble*

Wow, I'm impressed by the Anandtech forums being that I didn't get made fun of immediately. I tried and returned the following setups: Tempurpedic bed (full), Isotonic bed (without their box strings), 3 inch Tempurpedic matress topper on old inner string bed. I love good return policies.

Trying not to be as graphic as possible. Well in all the cases above, what would happen in the "male superior" position is you would sink into the mattress, greater than the depth of the memory foam. That's because all your weight is in your knees (and hands) and the matress base was made of more hard foam -- except in the case of the Tempurpedic mattress pad which I noticed I didn't sink as much as the full Tempurpedic or Isotonic bed. Also, it always felt you weren't as um... "as forceful" as you'd like to be.

In the "female superior", you remember in the Tempurpedic commerical when it shows the pitcher throw an egg into the mattress and it absorbed all the energy. Yeah, that's about what happens. Your girlfriend will get tired much faster than on a regular mattress.

Eventually we just used the floor for the deed, but that causes it own problems, if you know what I mean. That's when I came up the crazy idea of matching a basic Select Comfort with memory foam. You could adjust it to 100% firmness when it is necessary. When Select Comfort is soft enough, it feel basically like the foam part of a Tempurpedic bed except the air chambers hopefully won't break down. The only problem is the pump is really REALLY REALLY loud. There is just no smooth and slick way to pump up your bed (and both sides).
 

bleuless

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first let me say that i am not bashing foambymail, but here are my observations.

the pink 5.2lb pillow is not for anyone that sleeps on your back or stomache. why? because after i tried it in all orientation it still wasnt' right if i sleep on my back or stomache. it is too firm, it feels great with your hands, but your head is simply not that heavy. i put my head and neck on it and it doesn't yield much. after cutting the pillow's big curve off i tired sleeping on the [ side and it all became more evident that the pillow is too firm because i actually woke up from pain to my neck that the pillow's edge is causing. i really wish they had made a conventional shape pillow maybe it'll be more suitable for back/stomache sleepers.

i am not going to commet on how it is for side sleepers, because i don't sleep on my sides much, atleast not with this pillow.

i also find the pillow's odor (gone in a few days or not) made it seem "raw". i feel as if, someone works in a factory plant and makes foam thought of making this pillow to sell it direct to the public. it is "un-refined", definetely no Quality Assurance dept. here.

i am not trying to nit-pick or hurt their reputation, because i too would like them to make quality products that I too can enjoy. but facts are facts, and i am just letting you guys know my findings. hopefully we can turn something positive out of this.

no experience on their mattress topper.
 

whovous

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A pair of the Sensus 5.3lb foams arrived this afternoon, complete with the optional covers. They feel noticeably softer than the JCPenney pillow I returned a month or two ago. They are also quite a bit bigger than was that pillow. Fresh out of the box and with the covers in place, the smell is barely noticeable. For now, I am cautiously optimistic about these puppies...
 

Ph34rful

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Originally posted by: whovous
A pair of the Sensus 5.3lb foams arrived this afternoon, complete with the optional covers. They feel noticeably softer than the JCPenney pillow I returned a month or two ago. They are also quite a bit bigger than was that pillow. Fresh out of the box and with the covers in place, the smell is barely noticeable. For now, I am cautiously optimistic about these puppies...
I am curious. Were your covers contoured?

 

whovous

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They are not a real snug fit, so I was not sure at first. The covers are not contoured, but it is not real noticeable.

I spent too much of last night thinking about how I wanted to sleep on them, and not enough time sleeping. The jury is still out here, but I do not think they are too hard, as some complained. I am certain they are not too soft.
 

SpotDancer

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Originally posted by: whovous
They are not a real snug fit, so I was not sure at first. The covers are not contoured, but it is not real noticeable.

I spent too much of last night thinking about how I wanted to sleep on them, and not enough time sleeping. The jury is still out here, but I do not think they are too hard, as some complained. I am certain they are not too soft.


Yes, I think a lot of people have a bit of "trouble" getting used to these pillows at first, but the consensus seems to be that after a few days of use they are fine. For those people who believe the pillow is too "hard" I have no idea what to think. These pillows are definitely not hard in any respect. In fact, when I lay on them for just a few seconds and raise my head, I can not only see the imprint of where my head was but a distinct outline of my ear. If thats "hard" then I need to get a heavier head!! :Q
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Shinta

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The only problem is the pump is really REALLY REALLY loud. There is just no smooth and slick way to pump up your bed (and both sides).

*snicker* ;)


Also wanted to add that I e-mailed foambymail and they said they'd have non-countoured pillows in a few months. Possibly a longish wait, but should be out in time for (someone to get them for me for) Christmas.
 

Boberang

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Originally posted by: gspyer
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The only problem is the pump is really REALLY REALLY loud. There is just no smooth and slick way to pump up your bed (and both sides).

For this try two things: place big bath towel folded in half under the pump and get a cardboard box or something to place over the pump.

When I did these two things the noise was cut by at least 80%, if not more.

BTW, how do you prevent falling between the two chambers? I started with two chambers but then when "I" became a "we" she complained about being in between the two chambers, so I paid the $200 to get a single chamber. We both like that better now.

Bob
 

SpotDancer

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Now that various solutions are being offered on how to have sex using a memory foam mattress, methinks this thread will live on forever! :Q
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gspyer

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Originally posted by: Boberang
Originally posted by: gspyer
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The only problem is the pump is really REALLY REALLY loud. There is just no smooth and slick way to pump up your bed (and both sides).

For this try two things: place big bath towel folded in half under the pump and get a cardboard box or something to place over the pump.

When I did these two things the noise was cut by at least 80%, if not more.

BTW, how do you prevent falling between the two chambers? I started with two chambers but then when "I" became a "we" she complained about being in between the two chambers, so I paid the $200 to get a single chamber. We both like that better now.

Bob

Oh thanks for the suggestion, I will definately have to try it. Well you us guys know that sex is something of a spontanous act, the "heat of the moment" type deal. It really kills it when you are kissing her and trying to get her aroused and you other hand is fumbling around trying to sly find the pump for the bed. And then you hear "whirrrrrlllll". It can kill the mood and gives the girl that split second to rethink doing the deed. :(

Bob, when you pump BOTH sides/chambers to 100% you won't notice it because the bed is rock hard. If you have one of the nicer memory foam toppers like the Isotonic or Tempurpedic one, that wieghts 30+ lbs, it tends to compress the bed chambers downwards just a little. That squeezes the two chambers together and the middle crack/foam just dissappears.

Well I have the lowest model of the bed. I dunno what it is like on the other models. But I suppose there isn't any reason to buy a topper of memory foam if you have a higher model of the bed. I'll be the first the admit the lowest model of the bed isn't all that comfortable by itself, it is pretty much a very good Aero bed without the bumps and pits. It is still a good alternative to high density foam base though.

But I understand your problem completely. I wonder why they never bring this up in the commericals. ;)
 

JEDI

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Originally posted by: gspyer
Originally posted by: Boberang
Originally posted by: gspyer
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The only problem is the pump is really REALLY REALLY loud. There is just no smooth and slick way to pump up your bed (and both sides).

For this try two things: place big bath towel folded in half under the pump and get a cardboard box or something to place over the pump.

When I did these two things the noise was cut by at least 80%, if not more.

BTW, how do you prevent falling between the two chambers? I started with two chambers but then when "I" became a "we" she complained about being in between the two chambers, so I paid the $200 to get a single chamber. We both like that better now.

Bob

Oh thanks for the suggestion, I will definately have to try it. Well you us guys know that sex is something of a spontanous act, the "heat of the moment" type deal. It really kills it when you are kissing her and trying to get her aroused and you other hand is fumbling around trying to sly find the pump for the bed. And then you hear "whirrrrrlllll". It can kill the mood and gives the girl that split second to rethink doing the deed. :(

Bob, when you pump BOTH sides/chambers to 100% you won't notice it because the bed is rock hard. If you have one of the nicer memory foam toppers like the Isotonic or Tempurpedic one, that wieghts 30+ lbs, it tends to compress the bed chambers downwards just a little. That squeezes the two chambers together and the middle crack/foam just dissappears.

Well I have the lowest model of the bed. I dunno what it is like on the other models. But I suppose there isn't any reason to buy a topper of memory foam if you have a higher model of the bed. I'll be the first the admit the lowest model of the bed isn't all that comfortable by itself, it is pretty much a very good Aero bed without the bumps and pits. It is still a good alternative to high density foam base though.

But I understand your problem completely. I wonder why they never bring this up in the commericals. ;)

How about this $30 Foam Matress Pad from Smartbatgains?

(no, i'm not going to read all the threads)
 

EF9

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Jedi

im thinking that the pad u are asking about would be good if you had 2 of them. 1 pad is only 1.5 inches thick, so i would think you wouldnt really feel much of a difference(well, maybe a little). But with 2 pads layered, you get 3 inches of cushion therefore giving you more pad b4 sinking down to your mattress. Thats just my opinion, if anybody has any experience with these sorta pads then please comment. Thanks!
 

AAjax

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Got my Sensus pillows the other day, very soft by my estimation. Ive slept on them one night and I like them allot. However the foam-smell is a little much so Im gonna let them air out a couple days before I use them again.

Jax
 

whovous

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I have spent three out of the last four nights on my new Sensus pillows. I forgot that smell was even an issue until reading the previous note. Mine had a slight smell straight out of the bag, but I've not noticed it since.

Sensus is clearly softer than the JCPenney contour pillow I returned, but I do not think any visco-foam pillow is going to be softer than most standard foam, fill, or feather pillows. Your head is never going to sink to the bottom of a Sensus pillow.

I am probably going to keep them, but so far I do not rate them as highly as sliced bread. I am big (6'2" and 250 lbs) and a side sleeper who occasionally veers toward stomach sleeping. My problem with most pillows, and especially with most contour pillows, is that they are just too damn small. If I lie on my side, my neck tilts down too much before it is receives support from the foam,

The solution with most pillows is to double them over in one way or another, but visco pillows really don't seem to like this. They go from too small to way too huge. Putting an arm under the pillow sometimes just puts the arm to sleep before I get there.

The other problem I struggled with was whether to use the flat or contoured side. I would have preferred to get a 'normal' shaped pillow and avoid the question, but foambymail does not yet offer a Sensus pillow in that shape, and the few places that do charge more than I am willing to gamble on a form of pillow I am so unsure of.

I have wound up treating the two pillows like a jigsaw puzzle. I put one pillow flat side down, with the larger of the two contours on the side away from me. I then put the second pillow on top of it, contour side down, with the larger of the two contours toward me. I wind up with the functional equivalent of one rather larger pillow.

Foambymail describes these as Queen sized pillows, and they are definitely larger than most contour pillows. Then again, a loaf of bread is bigger than some of the contour puppies on the market! With two put together, I get a pillow high enough to support my head, but not so high that my neck is bent upward all night.

So far, I think I like them. I get good support and never bottom out. The one thing I am definitely NOT taken by is the cover. It only costs $5, so I guess I should not expect the world. It is a cheap white fabric, probably a poly cotton blend, and the pink of the Sensus foam shows through it in a sickly fashion. Not the prettiest thing if it manages to stick out of the end of a pillowcase.
 
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06/17/2003 4:05 AM
Wow this thread is still alive! I used to check this thread daily when I was in the market for a memory foam bed. Learned lots here.
Speaking of which, there is something NO ONE ever talks about when buying a mattress. Com'on now, a bed has two functions. One is the sleeping... the other... well... you know... is sex.

Actually our founder and hero addressed this at about a year before you joined Anandtech. But, You generated some more interesting comments. That is what is great about this thread.


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"Also, on a personal note, you may find it more difficult to have sex in this bed than a conventional bed. This may be a personal thing, but my wife and I have moved to other beds, floors, tables, etc. instead of the foam mattress..." I suppose that's because there is no "bounce" to the mattress or mattress pad. I guess that's something to keep in mind.
 

gspyer

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06/24/2002 6:13 PM

"Also, on a personal note, you may find it more difficult to have sex in this bed than a conventional bed. This may be a personal thing, but my wife and I have moved to other beds, floors, tables, etc. instead of the foam mattress..." I suppose that's because there is no "bounce" to the mattress or mattress pad. I guess that's something to keep in mind.

Or how well his floor or tables "bounce". LOL! I think instead of bounce, he means the foam just absorbs all energy. Hey, it's not just built to absorb G-forces... :)

udonoogen,

You know, if those eBay pillows are real Tempurpedic pillows, wouldn't it have the logo stitched into the pillow cover like all the retail Tempurpedic do? I notice that link doesn't provide a detailed enough image.
 

Atrac

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Actually, the quote about having sex was something I had pulled off of the internet. That wasn't referring to me. I am not even married. :)