The "Race Card" Gets Played

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Originally posted by: ChrisFromNJ
OMG Obama told the truth somebody hang him!

If it was the 30's someone might have done that already.
Plus, an Obama truth does not = the real truth.
Selma ring a bell? Obama flat out lies because he knows the news agencies will print his BS spin later on how he was mistaken on his facts. In my book that's called a LIE. If you don't know your facts, don't state them as such.
Obama came along at the right time when white guilt was at a fervor pitch in America and people clung to him like stink on shit, it doesn't matter what he says or what he does, the Obamites will see no wrong.
I'm not a McCain supporter, but I see him as the lesser of 2 evils.
 

Vic

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Obama has been using that line about his "funny name" for months and months. He said it EXACTLY that way at the big Portland rally back in May, and I've seen stump speeches as far back as February where he said it like that word for word.
For McCain to suddenly claim the race card is being played now is pretty desperate and disingenuous, to say the least. Hell, it's just silly.
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: Dari
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But McCain hasn't, and up til now he's denounced that sort of thing.

I wonder if this *pre-emptive complaint* by the Obama campaign about McCain signals that the gloves will coming off?

I mean h3ll, if you're be getting the criticism for doing something, might as well go ahead and do it if you think you'll get a benefit. You're already getting criticism/blame, what do you have to lose?

Fern

Like I said, he's said it before and Republicans have been very aggressive with the smear about his race and religion. Whether or not they're related to the McCain campaign is besides the point because they can always deny it. But I'm sure you're SHOCKED! SHOCKED! that Obama would say such a thing:roll: I mean, where could he have gotten the idea?

And Dems haven't been aggressive in trying to say McCain is not a natural born citizen because his active duty parents had him at a military base outside of the US. They don't say he's old and that he's McSame as Bush.
Both sides are going to play dirty, just this time the supporters of Obama don't want to see the truth. They want their superstar to win.

i don't think the mccain-not-eligible thing ever made it off the internet.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
And Dems haven't been aggressive in trying to say McCain is not a natural born citizen because his active duty parents had him at a military base outside of the US. They don't say he's old and that he's McSame as Bush.
Both sides are going to play dirty, just this time the supporters of Obama don't want to see the truth. They want their superstar to win.

Please quit trolling. The Senate passed a resolution, with Obama and Hillary as co-sponsors, voting unanimously in favor of McCain being eligible for the Presidency under the natural born citizen requirements in Article II of the Constitution.
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Fern

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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
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i don't think the mccain-not-eligible thing ever made it off the internet.

Yeah, it made the rounds on the evening *talking heads* type shows.

If it's on the internet, it's very likely to get on those TV shows. The internet is really recognized as big in politics etc.

Fern

 

chucky2

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Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: chucky2
Fern, you know it will be eaten like candy by the Obama faithful, even used as a McCain deriding point.

It's amazingly funny to watch/listen to the crazed Obamanaughts drink up the Obama koolaid, especially since they're largely the same ones as accusing others of drinking Bush kookaid.

Can't wait for Obama to get elected and clear Dem. majority in the Senate...then we can see the excuses start piling up in here hand over fist on why they will - and they absolutely will be - total failures at correcting any real issues we face today.

It's gonna be fun!

Chuck

I shoud thank you for sharing the koolaid you've been drinking for the past 8 years!

cheers!! :beer:

Sharing koolaid I've been drinking??? Given that I'm not a huge Bush fan - but not a BDS'ing Bush hating maniac - that'd be pretty hard.

My problem is largely with the masses who drink the koolaid from both sides. The true litmus test to see if a politician is lying is to shoot them in the head. If blood comes out, he/she was lying. We simply need to get rid of politicians and get quality Americans into office. Obama is just a charismatic great BS'er...why people think he's the Second Coming I just cannot grasp....

Chuck
 

Fern

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
And Dems haven't been aggressive in trying to say McCain is not a natural born citizen because his active duty parents had him at a military base outside of the US. They don't say he's old and that he's McSame as Bush.
Both sides are going to play dirty, just this time the supporters of Obama don't want to see the truth. They want their superstar to win.

Please quit trolling. The Senate passed a resolution, with Obama and Hillary as co-sponsors, voting unanimously in favor of McCain being eligible for the Presidency under the natural born citizen requirements in Article II of the Constitution.
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Would that have been just for *show*? I mean it's a Constitutional requirement. They can't legislate around that.

Or, does Congress have the authority *make* someone a natural born citizen - Nope, couldn't be that or someone would've tried that with Arnold Schwartzenegger. (Thinking out loud as I type).

It seems to me the defintion of what constitutes a NB citizen woudl be up to the Courts?

I don't see what good that would do?

Fern
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
And Dems haven't been aggressive in trying to say McCain is not a natural born citizen because his active duty parents had him at a military base outside of the US. They don't say he's old and that he's McSame as Bush.
Both sides are going to play dirty, just this time the supporters of Obama don't want to see the truth. They want their superstar to win.

Please quit trolling. The Senate passed a resolution, with Obama and Hillary as co-sponsors, voting unanimously in favor of McCain being eligible for the Presidency under the natural born citizen requirements in Article II of the Constitution.
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Would that have been just for *show*? I mean it's a Constitutional requirement. They can't legislate around that.

Or, does Congress have the authority *make* someone a natural born citizen - Nope, couldn't be that or someone would've tried that with Arnold Schwartzenegger. (Thinking out loud as I type).

It seems to me the defintion of what constitutes a NB citizen woudl be up to the Courts?

I don't see what good that would do?

Fern

Several law professors, including a prominent former Harvard colleague commissioned by Obama, all agreed that McCain was legally a natural-born citizen and that the issue did not need to go to the courts.

My complaint here was with Jeff claiming that the Dems were 'aggressive' in having McCain declared ineligible. Obviously that wasn't the case. Maybe some crazies on the internet who call themselves Democrats were 'aggressive,' but that's not the same thing.
 

lupi

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Bill said he was shocked how quickly they went that direction against HRC, not sure why this is a surprise to anyone.

 

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As to the question of why McCain is just now complaining about this type remark by Obama - I haven't been to any rallys, and my recollection of his remarks I've seen on TV are that he says "they.....".

This time, he mentioned McCain by name; that is, accused him personally of this stuff.

?Nobody thinks that Bush and McCain have a real answer to the challenges we face. So what they?re going to try to do is make you scared of me,? Obama said. ?You know, ?he?s not patriotic enough, he?s got a funny name,? you know, ?he doesn?t look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills.??

If Obama hadn't done that before, I can see why McCain avoided mentioning it until now.

Fern
 

Tab

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Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: Dari
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But McCain hasn't, and up til now he's denounced that sort of thing.

I wonder if this *pre-emptive complaint* by the Obama campaign about McCain signals that the gloves will coming off?

I mean h3ll, if you're be getting the criticism for doing something, might as well go ahead and do it if you think you'll get a benefit. You're already getting criticism/blame, what do you have to lose?

Edit: The difference in the Obama campaign vs. here and in the primary is remarkable to me.

Fern

You're right McCain hasn't but Obama didn't single out McCain, he just implied his supporters - which many are infact racist. Of course McCain isn't racist and of course he would never endorse it either as that removes any chance of him ever getting any moderate voters.

but is McCain policing every single 527s that's playing on the racism and bigotry of voters? I doubt it...
 

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Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: ChrisFromNJ
OMG Obama told the truth somebody hang him!

Then why the, ahem, lame lie that he just means "he hasn't spent decades in Washington DC"?

Fern

Fern, Fern, Fern ... perhaps you forget:

BHO grew up (politically) in C H I C A G O (, Cook County, Illinois .. a Democratic Nirvana where they can't even talk amongst themselves for anything except a pay raise)... the breeding ground of all sorts of political scum. He's learned from the best! It''s like an accelerated course in screwing the taxpayer.

You can sort of track it following Kass' column in the Trib (http://www.chicagotribune.com/...ss,0,5724822.columnist ) ... he's got a pretty good handle on Chicago, Cook County, Illinois corruption.

Anyway, a couple years here is like decades in DC. Check out Dick "Eddie Haskel" Durbin ... you don't get scum like that out of just any large community, it has to be bred and coddled & nurtured.



 

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Originally posted by: Tab
Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: Dari
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But McCain hasn't, and up til now he's denounced that sort of thing.

I wonder if this *pre-emptive complaint* by the Obama campaign about McCain signals that the gloves will coming off?

I mean h3ll, if you're be getting the criticism for doing something, might as well go ahead and do it if you think you'll get a benefit. You're already getting criticism/blame, what do you have to lose?

Edit: The difference in the Obama campaign vs. here and in the primary is remarkable to me.

Fern

You're right McCain hasn't but Obama didn't single out McCain, he just implied his supporters - which many are infact racist. Of course McCain isn't racist and of course he would never endorse it either as that removes any chance of him ever getting any moderate voters.

but is McCain policing every single 527s that's playing on the racism and bigotry of voters? I doubt it...

Last time I checked McCain ripped his own party over the Rev. Wright ad. How is Obama policing the moveon.org crowd again?

None of this comes as a shock his campain has already turned Bill Clinton into a racist. I am sure they will try to do the same to McCain.

BTW both sides have racist that support them just not McCain.

 

Dari

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Originally posted by: quest55720
Originally posted by: Tab
Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: Dari
-snip-

But McCain hasn't, and up til now he's denounced that sort of thing.

I wonder if this *pre-emptive complaint* by the Obama campaign about McCain signals that the gloves will coming off?

I mean h3ll, if you're be getting the criticism for doing something, might as well go ahead and do it if you think you'll get a benefit. You're already getting criticism/blame, what do you have to lose?

Edit: The difference in the Obama campaign vs. here and in the primary is remarkable to me.

Fern

You're right McCain hasn't but Obama didn't single out McCain, he just implied his supporters - which many are infact racist. Of course McCain isn't racist and of course he would never endorse it either as that removes any chance of him ever getting any moderate voters.

but is McCain policing every single 527s that's playing on the racism and bigotry of voters? I doubt it...

Last time I checked McCain ripped his own party over the Rev. Wright ad. How is Obama policing the moveon.org crowd again?
None of this comes as a shock his campain has already turned Bill Clinton into a racist. I am sure they will try to do the same to McCain.

BTW both sides have racist that support them just not McCain.

That bolded part makes no sense. I think you're confused.
 

quest55720

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Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: quest55720
Originally posted by: Tab
Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: Dari
-snip-

But McCain hasn't, and up til now he's denounced that sort of thing.

I wonder if this *pre-emptive complaint* by the Obama campaign about McCain signals that the gloves will coming off?

I mean h3ll, if you're be getting the criticism for doing something, might as well go ahead and do it if you think you'll get a benefit. You're already getting criticism/blame, what do you have to lose?

Edit: The difference in the Obama campaign vs. here and in the primary is remarkable to me.

Fern

You're right McCain hasn't but Obama didn't single out McCain, he just implied his supporters - which many are infact racist. Of course McCain isn't racist and of course he would never endorse it either as that removes any chance of him ever getting any moderate voters.

but is McCain policing every single 527s that's playing on the racism and bigotry of voters? I doubt it...

Last time I checked McCain ripped his own party over the Rev. Wright ad. How is Obama policing the moveon.org crowd again?
None of this comes as a shock his campain has already turned Bill Clinton into a racist. I am sure they will try to do the same to McCain.

BTW both sides have racist that support them just not McCain.

That bolded part makes no sense. I think you're confused.


You are confused when some north carolina repulicans ran a ad attacking Obama by using Rev. Wright he ripped his own party. Just like he ripped that talk show host cunningham over using Obama's middle name. He pissed of plenty of republicans by doing so. Where is Obama standing up to his own crazy moveon.org types.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Fern
As to the question of why McCain is just now complaining about this type remark by Obama - I haven't been to any rallys, and my recollection of his remarks I've seen on TV are that he says "they.....".

This time, he mentioned McCain by name; that is, accused him personally of this stuff.

?Nobody thinks that Bush and McCain have a real answer to the challenges we face. So what they?re going to try to do is make you scared of me,? Obama said. ?You know, ?he?s not patriotic enough, he?s got a funny name,? you know, ?he doesn?t look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills.??

If Obama hadn't done that before, I can see why McCain avoided mentioning it until now.

Fern

That's stretching it a bit, Fern. Do you have any evidence that this is the first time he's mentioned McCain?
And even if it is, how is the mention of exactly the same things that have been said about him playing the race card? Honest question that deserves an answer.
 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: Dari
So you say it because McCain said it? Obama's been saying this for months and its fucking true. Hell, the Republican smear campaign has tried to protray (sic?) his wife as a black militant; there have been rumors that he's a muslim; they've tried to say that he isn't an American citizen; they've tried to say that he was schooled in a madrassah; they've claimed that his middle name is really Muhammed; and they've said he isn't patriotic.

He isn't one of us seems to be the main message behind all these smears and people like you are SHOCKED! SHOCKED! that he would say the obvious?:roll:
No, you are wrong.

It was the liberal New Yorker that had Michelle on its cover as a terrorist.
It was a liberal Hillary supporter who pushed the "whitey" video tape.

The Republicans themselves won't even come close to the issue. Even McCain defends and brushed some of it aside.


(When I say Republicans I mean official members of the party, not crazy people acting on their own. Both sides have their own crazies.)
 

Rainsford

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The "race card" got played LONG before now, and not by the Obama campaign. All these people suggesting that race wasn't an issue until Obama mentioned it are either blind or looking to score cheap political appoints via the always classic tactic of accusing a minority of stirring up trouble.

There is a reason Colbert so consistently lampoons Republicans claiming to be "color blind", it's political expediency rather than any real desire for racial equality. After all, you don't bring about a color blind society just by SAYING we're already there. Race IS an issue...in this country and in this election. And the folks who are accusing Obama of playing the race card are just mad that he's calling attention to something that's been going on for a while now.
 

cliftonite

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Originally posted by: chucky2
Fern, you know it will be eaten like candy by the Obama faithful, even used as a McCain deriding point.

It's amazingly funny to watch/listen to the crazed Obamanaughts drink up the Obama koolaid, especially since they're largely the same ones as accusing others of drinking Bush kookaid.

Can't wait for Obama to get elected and clear Dem. majority in the Senate...then we can see the excuses start piling up in here hand over fist on why they will - and they absolutely will be - total failures at correcting any real issues we face today.

It's gonna be fun!

Chuck

This has been accomplished over the past few years?
 

ProfJohn

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This was posted on ABCs political blog Wed at 10:45 PM
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Did Obama Accuse McCain of Running a Racist, Xenophobic Campaign?
"John McCain right now, he's spending an awful lot of time talking about me," Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., said today in Rolla, Mo. "You notice that? I haven?t seen an ad yet where he talks about what he?s gonna do. And the reason is because those folks know they don?t have any good answers, they know they?ve had their turn over the last eight years and made a mess of things. They know that you?re not real happy with them."

Obama continued: "And so the only way they figure they?re going to win this election is if they make you scared of me. So what they?re saying is, ?Well, we know we?re not very good but you can?t risk electing Obama. You know, he?s new, he?s... doesn?t look like the other presidents on the currency, you know, he?s got a, he?s got a funny name.'

"I mean, that?s basically the argument -- he?s too risky," Obama said, per ABC News' Sunlen Miller. "But think about it, what?s the bigger risk? Us deciding that we?re going to come together to bring about real change in America or continuing to do same things with the same folks in the same ways that we know have not worked? I mean, are we really going to do the same stuff that we?ve been doing over the last eight years? ... That?s a risk we cannot afford. The stakes are too high."

Obama made similar comments earlier in the day in Springfield, Mo.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but does it not seem as if Obama just said McCain and his campaign -- presumably the "they" in this construct -- are saying that Obama shouldn't be elected because he's a risk because he's black and has a foreign-sounding name?

The Obama campaign says no, no, no, certainly not, he was talking about his "opponents" in general, writ large, the talk radio hosts and smear artists and such.

Then in Union, Mo., this evening, Obama seemed to specifically accuse McCain and the GOP of peddling racism and xenophobia.

Obama said that "John McCain and the Republicans, they don?t have any new ideas, that?s why they?re spending all their time talking about me. I mean, you haven?t heard a positive thing out of that campaign in ... in a month. All they do is try to run me down and you know, you know this in your own life. If somebody doesn?t have anything nice to say about anybody, that means they?ve got some problems of their own. So they know they?ve got no new ideas, they know they?re dredging up all the stale old stuff they?ve been peddling for the last eight, 10 years.

"But, since they don?t have any new ideas the only strategy they?ve got in this election is to try to scare you about me. They?re going to try to say that I?m a risky guy, they?re going to try to say, 'Well, you know, he?s got a funny name and he doesn?t look like all the presidents on the dollar bills and the five dollar bills and, and they?re going to send out nasty emails.

"And, you know, the latest one they?ve got me in an ad with Paris Hilton," Obama said, referring to a McCain campaign ad launched today. "You know, never met the woman. But, but, you know, what they?re gonna try to argue is that somehow I?m too risky."

There's a lot of racist xenophobic crap out there. But not only has McCain not peddled any of it, he's condemned it.

Back in February, McCain apologized for some questionable comments made by a local radio host. In April, he condemned the North Carolina Republican Party's ad featuring images of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

With one possible exception, I've never seen McCain or those under his control playing the race card or making fun of Obama's name -- or even mentioning Obama's full name, for that matter!


(The one exception was in March when McCain suspended a low-level campaign staffer for sending out to a small group of friends a link to a video that attempts to tie Obama not only to Wright but to the black power movement, rappers Public Enemy and Malcolm X.)

While I have no doubt there will be a bunch more racist, xenophobic, and other ignorant drek coming our way courtesy of the Internet and perhaps the occasional cable news network, it's important to determine where it's coming from. Is it from a specific campaign or party? A third-party group? A third-party group with direct ties to establishment figures? This all matters.

I've seen racism in campaigns before -- I've seen it against Obama in this campaign (more from Democrats than Republicans, at this point, I might add) and I've seen it against McCain in South Carolina in 2000, when his adopted Bangladeshi daughter Bridget was alleged, by the charming friends and allies of then-Gov. George W. Bush, to have been a McCain love-child with an African-American woman.

What I have not seen is it come from McCain or his campaign in such a way to merit the language Obama used today. Pretty inflammatory.
 

cliftonite

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Originally posted by: chucky2
Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: chucky2
Fern, you know it will be eaten like candy by the Obama faithful, even used as a McCain deriding point.

It's amazingly funny to watch/listen to the crazed Obamanaughts drink up the Obama koolaid, especially since they're largely the same ones as accusing others of drinking Bush kookaid.

Can't wait for Obama to get elected and clear Dem. majority in the Senate...then we can see the excuses start piling up in here hand over fist on why they will - and they absolutely will be - total failures at correcting any real issues we face today.

It's gonna be fun!

Chuck

I shoud thank you for sharing the koolaid you've been drinking for the past 8 years!

cheers!! :beer:

Sharing koolaid I've been drinking??? Given that I'm not a huge Bush fan - but not a BDS'ing Bush hating maniac - that'd be pretty hard.

My problem is largely with the masses who drink the koolaid from both sides. The true litmus test to see if a politician is lying is to shoot them in the head. If blood comes out, he/she was lying. We simply need to get rid of politicians and get quality Americans into office. Obama is just a charismatic great BS'er...why people think he's the Second Coming I just cannot grasp....

Chuck

Can we start with you?
 

Rainsford

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
This was posted on ABCs political blog Wed at 10:45 PM
link
Did Obama Accuse McCain of Running a Racist, Xenophobic Campaign?
"John McCain right now, he's spending an awful lot of time talking about me," Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., said today in Rolla, Mo. "You notice that? I haven?t seen an ad yet where he talks about what he?s gonna do. And the reason is because those folks know they don?t have any good answers, they know they?ve had their turn over the last eight years and made a mess of things. They know that you?re not real happy with them."

Obama continued: "And so the only way they figure they?re going to win this election is if they make you scared of me. So what they?re saying is, ?Well, we know we?re not very good but you can?t risk electing Obama. You know, he?s new, he?s... doesn?t look like the other presidents on the currency, you know, he?s got a, he?s got a funny name.'

"I mean, that?s basically the argument -- he?s too risky," Obama said, per ABC News' Sunlen Miller. "But think about it, what?s the bigger risk? Us deciding that we?re going to come together to bring about real change in America or continuing to do same things with the same folks in the same ways that we know have not worked? I mean, are we really going to do the same stuff that we?ve been doing over the last eight years? ... That?s a risk we cannot afford. The stakes are too high."

Obama made similar comments earlier in the day in Springfield, Mo.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but does it not seem as if Obama just said McCain and his campaign -- presumably the "they" in this construct -- are saying that Obama shouldn't be elected because he's a risk because he's black and has a foreign-sounding name?

The Obama campaign says no, no, no, certainly not, he was talking about his "opponents" in general, writ large, the talk radio hosts and smear artists and such.

Then in Union, Mo., this evening, Obama seemed to specifically accuse McCain and the GOP of peddling racism and xenophobia.

Obama said that "John McCain and the Republicans, they don?t have any new ideas, that?s why they?re spending all their time talking about me. I mean, you haven?t heard a positive thing out of that campaign in ... in a month. All they do is try to run me down and you know, you know this in your own life. If somebody doesn?t have anything nice to say about anybody, that means they?ve got some problems of their own. So they know they?ve got no new ideas, they know they?re dredging up all the stale old stuff they?ve been peddling for the last eight, 10 years.

"But, since they don?t have any new ideas the only strategy they?ve got in this election is to try to scare you about me. They?re going to try to say that I?m a risky guy, they?re going to try to say, 'Well, you know, he?s got a funny name and he doesn?t look like all the presidents on the dollar bills and the five dollar bills and, and they?re going to send out nasty emails.

"And, you know, the latest one they?ve got me in an ad with Paris Hilton," Obama said, referring to a McCain campaign ad launched today. "You know, never met the woman. But, but, you know, what they?re gonna try to argue is that somehow I?m too risky."

There's a lot of racist xenophobic crap out there. But not only has McCain not peddled any of it, he's condemned it.

Back in February, McCain apologized for some questionable comments made by a local radio host. In April, he condemned the North Carolina Republican Party's ad featuring images of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

With one possible exception, I've never seen McCain or those under his control playing the race card or making fun of Obama's name -- or even mentioning Obama's full name, for that matter!


(The one exception was in March when McCain suspended a low-level campaign staffer for sending out to a small group of friends a link to a video that attempts to tie Obama not only to Wright but to the black power movement, rappers Public Enemy and Malcolm X.)

While I have no doubt there will be a bunch more racist, xenophobic, and other ignorant drek coming our way courtesy of the Internet and perhaps the occasional cable news network, it's important to determine where it's coming from. Is it from a specific campaign or party? A third-party group? A third-party group with direct ties to establishment figures? This all matters.

I've seen racism in campaigns before -- I've seen it against Obama in this campaign (more from Democrats than Republicans, at this point, I might add) and I've seen it against McCain in South Carolina in 2000, when his adopted Bangladeshi daughter Bridget was alleged, by the charming friends and allies of then-Gov. George W. Bush, to have been a McCain love-child with an African-American woman.

What I have not seen is it come from McCain or his campaign in such a way to merit the language Obama used today. Pretty inflammatory.

Politics today is at least as much about what the supporters of a candidate say as what the candidate says, especially since there is an extremely good apparatus for getting things out there without attaching your name to it. McCain himself might not be coming right out and suggesting that you shouldn't vote for Obama because he's black, but then again, he hardly has to...he has plenty of folks to do that for him. And again with the idea that McCain is running an anti-Obama campaign, it certainly seems that way given the tone of the commentary from the usual suspects on the right.

I don't think anyone on these boards is a paid campaign staffer for either candidate, but it's interesting how closely "casual" commentary here reflects the tone of the candidates and their campaigns. And I have yet to hear ANYONE make a good argument for voting for McCain, except that he's not Obama. If there is another argument out there, I have yet to hear it from the candidate himself either.
 

Jhhnn

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Race has always been an issue in American politics, and it's been the repubs' under the table issue since 1968, when they embraced their "southern strategy".

And so long as they can keep it under the table, it works to their advantage. They get to pander to white fears indirectly and quite shamelessly.

The cascade of uber-right raving on this forum wrt the rev Wright illustrates that point rather well. Their reaction to the fundie fringe ravings of white evangelical preachers isn't nearly the same intensity... They've been trying to smear Obama with the "Racist" epithet ever since...

So, Obama lays it on the line, drags the whole thing out of the shadows and into the light, which is precisely where rightwing strategists don't want it to be... because it reveals their tactics as cowardly and vicious, as innuendo and false attribution of the worst sort...

I can sum up the whole rightwing position about Obama's reference to race with a single hypenated word- "Uhhh-WAAAhhhhh!"

He's not playing the game the way you want. Too bad, so sad. Will we be needing the Wahmbulance?