The people did NOT vote for Trump

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I hope they laughed at you for not knowing how the number of electors is calculated. its in the Constitution have you ever read it? Just sayin lol.

here let me help you with another video.

https://youtu.be/W9H3gvnN468
We weren't even discussing the electors. We were talking about people being equally represented. You have to think outside the box when talking about her EC and not fall into the trap of how it's currently set up, as that is not important when discussing why it's not needed.
 

Sunburn74

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If only there was some other body of the government that represented people from individual states. Perhaps it could have representatives from each state...
The president doesn't act in the interest of any particular state or even groups of state. Think about obamas last 8 years or Bush years. Is there anything you can point to that suggests they favored certain states over others, barring emergent things like hurricanes and Floods and the like? I can't. If anything Obama actually favored a lot of states that didn't vote for him with his policies to address income inequality and healthcare disparity.

Also these small states have senators who represent them and even more powerful than senator: lobbyists!!!
 

SP33Demon

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Adult coloring books are actually pretty popular right now. You might be surprised how fun they are! And what's wrong with crying? The whole 'crying is for babies' thing is a sign of an emotionally stunted society.

You may not realize it but every generation comes up with a reason to hate their kids. As I've said many times before there's even a quote from Socrates about how shitty the kids were in his day. Here's a hint: kids haven't changed, you've changed.
You really are a liberal. What's wrong with crying over an election? I bet you cry a lot. :tearsofjoy:
 

SP33Demon

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Yes, many of them did exactly what you stated, so I completely agree with you on that point. I'm on the late side of the boomers, so I was too young to get in on the 60s stuff. But at least my wife and I didn't raise our millennials to be delicate little snowflakes.
Yep, agree. Thank god my kid won't be a pussy snowflake. In fact, he'll be grabbing a lot of pussy I bet. ;)
 

Double Trouble

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Arguments stemming from the position that Hillary would have won or should have won because she won the popular vote are pointless. Everyone knew that the goal was electoral votes, not total number of votes. If the goal was total number of votes, both candidates might have applied different strategies (or not). The total vote number is no more meaningful a number at this point than total number of trees on my property.

I don't see a particular need to change the EC, it just increases the influence for the large population centers that already have an overwhelming influence. The country does not need to revolve around the whims of just California and New York residents, the election should reflect the entire country.
 

pcgeek11

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The laughable predictability of the olds railing against the "kids" who just don't understand the world is as pathetic as it it expected.

Edit: And to clarify I straddle GenY and GenX and as such am looking forward to witnessing the final unraveling of the Boomer's political power through the slow yet inexorable march of mortality.

LOL, So the answer is YES!

Gotcha.
 

SP33Demon

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And if you are lucky you'll have a daughter and someday someone can grab hers. She won't be a pussy snowflake either I bet. ;)
Exactly, I hope she marries an alpha who has the balls to lead his family and not play xbox or with coloring books every time something bad happens. The country needs men, not boys.
 

MrSquished

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I don't see a particular need to change the EC, it just increases the influence for the large population centers that already have an overwhelming influence. The country does not need to revolve around the whims of just California and New York residents, the election should reflect the entire country.

but it doesn't. you just like the results because they jive with your worldview. the data shows that in the two modern elections where the loser won the popular vote was won by a small margin. in no way does it point to a tyranny of the masses.

you are just talking out your ass.
 

NostaSeronx

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the election should reflect the entire country.
All 50 states currently elect their governors by a statewide popular vote (for that matter, all members of Congress and state legislators are elected by popular vote too).

Majority of which are elected in by one or two large counties. SAID NO ONE EVER.
 

MrSquished

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Exactly, I hope she marries an alpha who has the balls to lead his family and not play xbox or with coloring books every time something bad happens. The country needs men, not boys.

what are you like 95 and a grizzled WWII veteran? MEN WILL BE MEN, GIRLS WILL BE GIRLS.

christ you are a fucking relic.
 

pcgeek11

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Adult coloring books are actually pretty popular right now. You might be surprised how fun they are! And what's wrong with crying? The whole 'crying is for babies' thing is a sign of an emotionally stunted society.

You may not realize it but every generation comes up with a reason to hate their kids. As I've said many times before there's even a quote from Socrates about how shitty the kids were in his day. Here's a hint: kids haven't changed, you've changed.

No, actually being an adult and playing with play-dough, coloring books and crying in the street about an election is the sign of an emotionally stunted retard.

We are talking about college aged adults here.
 

SP33Demon

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what are you like 95 and a grizzled WWII veteran? MEN WILL BE MEN, GIRLS WILL BE GIRLS.

christ you are a fucking relic.
Nope, just a grizzled Gen Xer who seeks the truth. Who wouldn't want their daughter to marry an alpha who protects and loves her? Shit. Wait, let me adjust my wish for you liberals. I hope she marries an alpha tranny who is the lead singer on Broadway for CATS and who, by the way, owns 8 cats because he (she's) a compassionate animal advocate. They will hope to adopt 2 black babies and 1 asian just like BRANGELINA. lol
 

woolfe9998

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Why should only 10 states matter in an election? Why do we have a system where the candidates cater their message to people in close voting states and ignore the rest? The whole concept of "battleground states" is ludicrous. The EC is undemocratic.
 

LegendKiller

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All 50 states currently elect their governors by a statewide popular vote (for that matter, all members of Congress and state legislators are elected by popular vote too).

Majority of which are elected in by one or two large counties. SAID NO ONE EVER.

So is this the United Counties Of the States of America?
 

Paratus

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Yep, agree. Thank god my kid won't be a pussy snowflake. In fact, he'll be grabbing a lot of pussy I bet. ;)

Well hopefully while you're teaching him to grab pussy you'll also be explaining about consent. Since in Texas at least, unwanted contact with someone's genitals, (you know pussy grabbing), is considered sexual assault. Deadly force is justified to stop sexual assault here.

The more you know. ;)
 

Double Trouble

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but it doesn't. you just like the results because they jive with your worldview. the data shows that in the two modern elections where the loser won the popular vote was won by a small margin. in no way does it point to a tyranny of the masses.

you are just talking out your ass.

Speaking of talking out of your ass, where did I say anything about tyranny of the masses? The large population centers already have an obvious huge influence on every aspect of the country, including elections. Taking out the EC would just increase that influence, there's no need for it. Who won the popular vote is simply a meaningless statistic. If that was the goal, then each campaign might have had different strategies and we'd have to see what the outcome was. It's like arguing that the team who allowed fewer yards on defense should have won the game. The rules of the game are that you win by getting 270 electoral votes, not by getting the most votes.
 

Scooby Doo

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Well hopefully while you're teaching him to grab pussy you'll also be explaining about consent. Since in Texas at least, unwanted contact with someone's genitals, (you know pussy grabbing), is considered sexual assault. Deadly force is justified to stop sexual assault here.

The more you know. ;)
Hahah that would be hilarious, he goes for the pussy and knells over dead from a gunshot :p
 

NostaSeronx

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So, apparently it is expected that the electoral college will be unfaithful in December. Which in turn will, even when she conceded, will elect Clinton come December 19th.
 

LegendKiller

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So, apparently it is expected that the electoral college will be unfaithful in December. Which in turn will, even when she conceded, will elect Clinton come December 19th.
It is not expected. The constitutional crisis and uprising would be of such epic proportions it would likely destroy the country. Any fucktard who thinks this is "expected" is so far out of touch that they might as well be considered legally retarded.
 

Double Trouble

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So, apparently it is expected that the electoral college will be unfaithful in December. Which in turn will, even when she conceded, will elect Clinton come December 19th.

:D Yes, and I have some awesome oceanfront property to sell you in Nebraska! Anyone who believes that will happen is smoking some serious crack. You think the same people who were chanting "lock her up!" are going to turn around and install her as the president? Good one ;)
 

NostaSeronx

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It is not expected. The constitutional crisis and uprising would be of such epic proportions it would likely destroy the country. Any fucktard who thinks this is "expected" is so far out of touch that they might as well be considered legally retarded.
https://www.change.org/p/electoral-...make-hillary-clinton-president-on-december-19

This movement is expected to win. I'm sorry. Popular president-elect Hillary Diane Rodham-Clinton might beat Media president-elect Donald John Trump.