The people did NOT vote for Trump

[cubby1223]

1,342,001 current Clinton lead, up from 120,521 previous post.

And the impact on the electoral college results?

Petition finally moved to 4.4m

So?

61 million people voted for Trump, 62 million voted for Clinton. That you think parading around 4.4 million who want Clinton the victor will make any difference, is just sad. 61 million people want Trump to remain President. Your petition is nothing.

 

[ivwshane]

And the impact on the electoral college results?


So?

61 million people voted for Trump, 62 million voted for Clinton. That you think parading around 4.4 million who want Clinton the victor will make any difference, is just sad. 61 million people want Trump to remain President. Your petition is nothing.

Do you think trump or Republicans have a mandate after this election?

 

[NostaSeronx]

Your petition is nothing.

Cry more. Your tears are delicious.

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It only takes one day to make >15 months go away in flames. Aww yiss... the Trumpening soon.

 

[cubby1223]

Do you think trump or Republicans have a mandate after this election?

They have a mandate to recognize Trump is the President who won the election. Both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama both recognize Trump as the next President.

 

[ivwshane]

They have a mandate to recognize Trump is the President who won the election.

Get back to us when you understand the definition of a mandate in context of my question.

 

[LegendKiller]

Cry more. Your tears are delicious.

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It only takes one day to make >15 months go away in flames. Aww yiss... the Trumpening soon.

Who is crying?

You're the one crying about losing the game by pointing out an immaterial statistic.

 

[cubby1223]

Cry more. Your tears are delicious.

Confirmation of your total lack of awareness of reality... check!

Enjoy the next 4 years of your life!

 

[cubby1223]

Get back to us when you understand the definition of a mandate in context of my question.

Get back to me when you post a question that has any relevance to what I have said.


man·date
ˈmanˌdāt/
noun
noun: mandate; plural noun: mandates

1. 1.
   an official order or commission to do something.
   
   
2. 2.
   the authority to carry out a policy or course of action, regarded as given by the electorate to a candidate or party that is victorious in an election.

Republicans have the authority to carry out the course of action to recognize Trump as the President. They have the official order to proceed with transitioning Trump into the position of President. Trump and the Republicans absolutely have a mandate because they won the election.

On the other hand, we all know you just want to be the typical asshole. President != Dictatorship. No incoming President has full power to do everything he wants. It's one of the very defining principals of this nation. Separation of powers.

 

[ivwshane]

Get back to me when you post a question that has any relevance to what I have said.

My statement was that Trump will be the next President regardless of that online petition. You respond by questioning what kind of mandate the Republicans have. They have a mandate to recognize Trump as the next President, unlike the rest of the fools in this thread.

Oh I'm sorry I didn't know I had to keep questions relative to the topic, I thought that wasn't an issue with the way you righties like to do the same.

 

[nakedfrog]

And the impact on the electoral college results?


So?

61 million people voted for Trump, 62 million voted for Clinton. That you think parading around 4.4 million who want Clinton the victor will make any difference, is just sad. 61 million people want Trump to remain President. Your petition is nothing.

Point of clarification, 61 million people want "not Clinton" to be President
I'm not sure what the breakdown of people who are genuinely pro-Trump is. Of the Trump voters in my social circle, I'd call it a 50-50 split.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Did we all forget that Trump was bashing the electoral college just four short years ago when President Obama won reelection?

 

[Kazukian]

Did we all forget that Trump was bashing the electoral college just four short years ago when President Obama won reelection?

And it's still in place, is he supposed to campaign like it's not the law?

As it's been pointed out, a POTUS campaign for the popular vote would be very different than what has been traditionally done. I'm on the fence, if we want to change it, we can amend the constitution, but it's not a "do over" kind of thing. I'm not surprised by the riots, more than 1/2 of teens in CA don't graduate from HS, so they haven't taken civics class.

 

[Puffnstuff]

^^Just pointing out some hypocrisy as I expect to see even more from the religitard right any day now.

 

[Svnla]

Fake news site swung the election to DT per Google CEO? = http://finance.yahoo.com/news/googles-ceo-says-fake-news-181402707.html

 

[lopri]

I am not sure if people have short memory or are just being partisan. Popular votes do not change the winner of the elections, but they nevertheless have political force of their own. If that were not the case:

1) Trump would not have bragged about his record popular vote in GOP primary history

2) NeverTrumpers would not have argued that Trump, who won 30~40% of votes in the primaries, were not supported by majority of Republicans.

3) Sanders people would not have railed against the Superdelegates who they knew full well were part of the Dem primary system.

I see the members on this board who participated in the above debates only a few short months ago are now talking as if those conversations never happened. I wish people could take partisan glasses off sometimes.

The discrepancy between popular vote and EC vote is troublesome, especially if it becomes larger or a pattern. If, say, a candidate who wins more than 5M popular votes loses the Electoral College, should we still look at it as if nothing is wrong, or can we at least entertain a possibility that the EC system is dysfunctional? If, say, Texas turns blue and the Dems keep winning presidency by winning bare minimum of large states (*11), would it not be viewed as problematic?

*11 states: California (55), Texas (38), New York (29), Florida (29), Pennsylvania (20), Illinois (20), Ohio (18), Michigan (16), Georgia (16), North Carolina (15), New Jersey (14)

 

[Svnla]

So now let count the popular votes and get rid of EC? = http://www.usnews.com/debate-club/s...al-college/electoral-college-favors-democrats

 

[MrSquished]

Get back to me when you post a question that has any relevance to what I have said.


man·date
ˈmanˌdāt/
noun
noun: mandate; plural noun: mandates

1. 1.
   an official order or commission to do something.
   
   
2. 2.
   the authority to carry out a policy or course of action, regarded as given by the electorate to a candidate or party that is victorious in an election.

Republicans have the authority to carry out the course of action to recognize Trump as the President. They have the official order to proceed with transitioning Trump into the position of President. Trump and the Republicans absolutely have a mandate because they won the election.

On the other hand, we all know you just want to be the typical asshole. President != Dictatorship. No incoming President has full power to do everything he wants. It's one of the very defining principals of this nation. Separation of powers.

I've heard mandate used in politics more to describe the power given once a certain margin of victory is reached. To be given a true mandate the winner must have a very strong and decisive victory.

http://study.com/academy/lesson/what-is-a-mandate-definition-examples.html

That can also vary based upon the candidate: http://fair.org/take-action/media-advisories/when-is-a-mandate-not-a-mandate/

 

[imported_tajmahal]

I've heard mandate used in politics more to describe the power given once a certain margin of victory is reached. To be given a true mandate the winner must have a very strong and decisive victory.

http://study.com/academy/lesson/what-is-a-mandate-definition-examples.html

That can also vary based upon the candidate: http://fair.org/take-action/media-advisories/when-is-a-mandate-not-a-mandate/

Yes, i remember Bill Clinton claiming a mandate when he only had 43% of the vote. That was only 43% of the actual voters, not registered voters or eligible voters. So his mandate had about 22% of eligible voters in the U.S. What's the percent of eligible voters that voted for Hillary ?