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The Official Xbox One Thread

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The DRM thing seems to be a publisher push it looks like. It will probably show up on the PS4 and kind of explains why EA is turning away from the WiiU.
 
LOLOL!!!

Trade-in and resell your disc-based games: Today, some gamers choose to sell their old disc-based games back for cash and credit. We designed Xbox One so game publishers can enable you to trade in your games at participating retailers. Microsoft does not charge a platform fee to retailers, publishers, or consumers for enabling transfer of these games.

Give your games to friends: Xbox One is designed so game publishers can enable you to give your disc-based games to your friends. There are no fees charged as part of these transfers. There are two requirements: you can only give them to people who have been on your friends list for at least 30 days and each game can only be given once.
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http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/license

more info found here...

http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/main

rip xbox, it was a good run!
 
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purbeast0 said:
LOLOL!!!



http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/license

more info found here...

http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/main

rip xbox, it was a good run!
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Oh wow. So much fail, and it's hilarious how the first paragraph is so sneakily worded.

We don't charge a 'platform fee'? Haha, all that says is that the actual fees collected by Microsoft using 'participating retailers' will be the money grab, not the actual running of the database. IOW, this is everything we expected : $$ will get kicked up the channel in order to transfer used games, unless you have a specific case, ONCE only, where you are given the opportunity to GIVE a game you PAID for to a friend.

What idiots. I hope they fall on their face with Xfail.
 
at this point no amount of amazing launch titles is going to get be to buy one

also considering the only games i have for the 360 are halo and 2 other i got before i got my PS3 this is looking like a total pass for a long time
 
So: no rentals or loans to friends. Only GameStop for buying used discs ("save $1 off list!"), and they'll have a monopoly on buying them back too ("we'll give you $1!").

Wow, MS is setting the bar awfully low. If Sony has half a brain they'll stand up to the publishers and say all discs can be loaned or resold anywhere you want, without them collecting a fee.
 
SAWYER said:
The meltdowns will be glorious when Sony announces bad news
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The used game policy might be the same but I'm really wondering what their deal will be with the online checks.

In an interview the head PS dude said you don't 'need' to be always online but I'm wondering if there's some wordplay there like Microsoft's previous announcement.
 
American Gunner said:
Now we wait to see if Sony does the same thing. I would be surprised if they don't.
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If they are paying attention, they'll challenge Microsoft on both fronts. Think of the MASSIVE PR victory if they succeed in not hamstringing used/gifted games and not mandating paid PSN. The groundswell of support would be epic, and would almost single-handedly doom Xbone to last-place. Word of mouth would stamp out any residual support for Xbox outside of the hyper fanboys.

But you're right, if the bean-counters rule the day, and Sony follows suit on all this BS, then it's just gonna be status-quo, only worse.

Odds are fairly even at this point I'd say. You know they're watching the huge crapstorm about this Xbox garbage intently, watching stock values react, and might weigh the possible repercussions in a business sense.

Getting 20-40 million more consoles sold because your business model is hugely more consumer-friendly might sway them over the nickle and dime model that Microsoft is buying into.
 
It is indeed looking doubtful that Sony will make the same huge series of mistakes :

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/It-Official-PS4-Feature-Used-Game-DRM-Like-Xbox-One-56264.html

Obviously this doesn't stop publishers from using keycodes and stuff to make used games less friendly, but by and large it doesn't sound like the epic mind-melting nonsense on Xbox : tying EVERY game to an XBL account, being able to only give friends your games ONCE after meeting strict criteria, etc.

And HUZZAH, no dumb-crap online requirement for offline gaming.

Sony +1.
 
i don't even know why people would think sony would do something like ms is doing. there has been 0 news about them doing anything that stupid. and i'm not talking about all the stupid rumors because they are just that, rumors.
 
purbeast0 said:
i don't even know why people would think sony would do something like ms is doing. there has been 0 news about them doing anything that stupid. and i'm not talking about all the stupid rumors because they are just that, rumors.
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No joke!

I honestly think both Sony and Nintendo are going to laugh all the way to the bank on this one.
 
Scholzpdx said:
No joke!

I honestly think both Sony and Nintendo are going to laugh all the way to the bank on this one.
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Yep, this crapstorm has been absolutely massive, and I think it's actually more likely that Microsoft will end up having to walk back some of the garbage on Xbone rather than Sony/Nintendo following suit in the middle of this mess.

But in the long run, this kind of thing will be inevitable, as this may well be the last gen of physically-distributed games. With purely electronic distribution, DRM as in games tied to your account will be the norm, which will be somewhat understandable (and what PC gamers largely live with already). The huge change that they tried to do all at once with Xbone looks like a bridge too far too fast though for the console crowd, the backlash has been stunningly epic.
 
Microsoft can always double back on it if it really turns into a serious debacle, they would have no choice.

Unless....they already signed contracts with publishers. I'd imagine they would have to pay $$$$$ to break these contracts, and it's probably a crap ton of money if it's DRM
 
None of it really means anything. They are thinking "we can do whatever we want, if we have the games, people will buy anyway and tolerate whatever we throw at them" and you know what? They are probably right.
 
ImpulsE69 said:
None of it really means anything. They are thinking "we can do whatever we want, if we have the games, people will buy anyway and tolerate whatever we throw at them" and you know what? They are probably right.
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To a certain extent. But this outrage is unprecedented. I have NEVER seen this outrage on consoles.

E3 used to be like a disney land ride for a 8 year old girl.

People are fucking angry now, that isn't good.

And in business, someone is always waiting for you to fail so they can take your spot.

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