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The Official Xbox One Thread

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Lazarus52980 said:
"no one" is a bit of an over exaggeration. I am intending to purchase an Xbox one for my children (7, 6, 5, and almost 1) to play with. The Kinect 2 is the SOLE reason I will purchase their next offering.
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Do you have the Xbox 360 right now? Get Kinect for it and see if you children like that. Kinect 2.0 is basically the same thing, in fact if you pay for the shipping I'll send you my Kinect lol.
 
badb0y said:
Do you have the Xbox 360 right now? Get Kinect for it and see if you children like that. Kinect 2.0 is basically the same thing, in fact if you pay for the shipping I'll send you my Kinect lol.
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It's pretty good from my experience. At the end of the day I use my 360 to play shooters and such though. :thumbsup:
 
NeoGAF fueling the rumor mill? Even with yield issues, I doubt MS is going to lower the clock speeds of the GPU. Why wouldn't they just buy more fab time? One poster even called it "take a hit on fab costs and try to iron out yields or take a hit on performance for the next 10 years".
 
badb0y said:
Guys there's a troubling rumor going around on NeoGAF:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=576869

There seems to be yield issues with the Xbox One APU and Microsoft is planning to down clock the GPU. According to some people the GPU will come out to be around 800-900 Gflops.
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It just wouldn't be a Microsoft console if half of them didn't RRoD the first year.

You know the real reason everyone hates Windows 8? They miss the old BSOD.

It's just wouldn't seem like an authentic Microsoft experience, if it wasn't plagued by failure.
 
Why would esram cause yield issues? I thought the esram would be the easiest part to manufacture because of its regularity and since it is less prone to have issues when defects occur. Factoring the 1.5x number of CU in the PS4 apu, the xbone apu should not be much bigger (~1 million transitors bigger / 25% bigger die). MS having issue but not Sony?

Given the massive fan and heat sink on the xbone, and that the xbone has less CUs, I really thought that MS was going to come out and say that they have upclocked the cpu and gpu by 25% to close the gap on Sony.
 
badb0y said:
Guys there's a troubling rumor going around on NeoGAF:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=576869

There seems to be yield issues with the Xbox One APU and Microsoft is planning to down clock the GPU. According to some people the GPU will come out to be around 800-900 Gflops.
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I can't see any scenario where Microsoft would cripple the system specs for years to come just to make it out sooner. I also don't trust NeoGAF for anything Xbox related, there are only a total of about 3 of the 100k there that are looking forward to the X1.
 
badb0y said:
Do you have the Xbox 360 right now? Get Kinect for it and see if you children like that. Kinect 2.0 is basically the same thing, in fact if you pay for the shipping I'll send you my Kinect lol.
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Yes I have one. I purchased it on release day and have not regretted it.

Dance Central 3 FTW! lol
 
blurredvision said:
I can't see any scenario where Microsoft would cripple the system specs for years to come just to make it out sooner. I also don't trust NeoGAF for anything Xbox related, there are only a total of about 3 of the 100k there that are looking forward to the X1.
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In all fairness I can totally see MS down clocking the specs to make it out sooner. They rushed the 360 out the door knowing all the problems to get a headstart on Sony. Fast forward now, that 1 year advantage they had on Sony didn't even have them beat them in terms of total systems sold now.

NeoGAF, while they are not happy with the X1 (frankly I haven't see any real non console specific forum that is happy with it), they rumors/info is usually pretty accurate depending on the source. I believe the sources behind this current info is suppose to be pretty legit with previous info.
 
KaOTiK said:
In all fairness I can totally see MS down clocking the specs to make it out sooner. They rushed the 360 out the door knowing all the problems to get a headstart on Sony. Fast forward now, that 1 year advantage they had on Sony didn't even have them beat them in terms of total systems sold now.
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I see crippling the specs and knowingly pushing out bum hardware to be different. At least with bum hardware, it can be fixed and replaced at a later time. If they cripple the specs, that's it. They can't change it unless they want to segment the console (which would fail horribly) or release an entirely new console (which would fail horribly).

In the scenario that this rumor was true, they'd have three options. Downclock and release this year, have limited supply and release this year, or delay. The last option realistically isn't really an option I'm sure. I'd think having limited supply over reduced specs would be ideal. At least they'd be able to say "we're sold out! demand was unprecedented!", which they'll do anyway. 😉
 
KaOTiK said:
In all fairness I can totally see MS down clocking the specs to make it out sooner. They rushed the 360 out the door knowing all the problems to get a headstart on Sony. Fast forward now, that 1 year advantage they had on Sony didn't even have them beat them in terms of total systems sold now.

NeoGAF, while they are not happy with the X1 (frankly I haven't see any real non console specific forum that is happy with it), they rumors/info is usually pretty accurate depending on the source. I believe the sources behind this current info is suppose to be pretty legit with previous info.
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Sony also had the only sub $1000 blu-ray player, which is (while slow and loud) still a decent blu-ray player today. At $250, you get a game system and a blu-ray player. That also helped sell the PS2 years prior. It was a decent DVD player when DVD players were expensive enough, the combo gaming system / player was a factor.

That has had an impact on sales. Exactly how many sales that helped Sony catch up? Who knows, but you can't discredit that effect. This time, MS is trying to get the jump, so to speak, on Sony but having HDMI passthrough and available (if the companies allow it) cable integration. They are banking that will be the next home entertainment frontier, since blu-ray is probably the last disc based media format we see.

I still think it is far more likely with yield issues, MS will just buy more fab time and lose more money up front (because they can afford it) than cripple their system in a few years. But, MS has made mistakes before (Windows ME for example).
 
smackababy said:
I still think it is far more likely with yield issues, MS will just buy more fab time
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And if they fab time is already booked for a long time ahead? Both Nvidia and ATI/AMD have run into the problem of TSMC not being able to deliver high end low yield parts in sufficient quantities.
 
BladeVenom said:
And if they fab time is already booked for a long time ahead? Both Nvidia and ATI/AMD have run into the problem of TSMC not being able to deliver high end low yield parts in sufficient quantities.
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I think MS has more cash on hand to throw at this problem than nVidia and AMD combined. =) They can figure something out, I'm sure.
 
I really don't buy that the XBone is having yield problems. There's nothing revolutionary about the APU and it's not on a new node or all that advanced. MS should have been receiving their orders for a very long time now and been able to adjust clocks or release dates based on inventory without us even knowing about it even if it had issues.

I'm sure there will be plenty of XBones out there for people that want one.
 
Not sure why that used game fee thing is news now, posted here a day or so after the reveal. Of course it's in effect a fee as it just bumps up the price of the game, whether it was sold as game cost x or game cost y + fee x, the end user is still paying. What still hasn't been mentioned is the private party to private party details, cause if that does have a distinct fee the lulz will be great.
 
smackababy said:
Sony also had the only sub $1000 blu-ray player, which is (while slow and loud) still a decent blu-ray player today. At $250, you get a game system and a blu-ray player. That also helped sell the PS2 years prior. It was a decent DVD player when DVD players were expensive enough, the combo gaming system / player was a factor.

That has had an impact on sales. Exactly how many sales that helped Sony catch up? Who knows, but you can't discredit that effect. This time, MS is trying to get the jump, so to speak, on Sony but having HDMI passthrough and available (if the companies allow it) cable integration. They are banking that will be the next home entertainment frontier, since blu-ray is probably the last disc based media format we see.

I still think it is far more likely with yield issues, MS will just buy more fab time and lose more money up front (because they can afford it) than cripple their system in a few years. But, MS has made mistakes before (Windows ME for example).
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You really don't want to get into how much it sold because of xx. Because really, there were millions of 360's sold due to RROD to people replacing their system before MS would cover it.
 
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Nintendesert said:
I really don't buy that the XBone is having yield problems. There's nothing revolutionary about the APU and it's not on a new node or all that advanced. MS should have been receiving their orders for a very long time now and been able to adjust clocks or release dates based on inventory without us even knowing about it even if it had issues.

I'm sure there will be plenty of XBones out there for people that want one.
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I'm liking that you're staying strong with your "XBone" moniker for the system. I'm a fan of it, and I will help you spread the good word.
 
prism said:
I'm liking that you're staying strong with your "XBone" moniker for the system. I'm a fan of it, and I will help you spread the good word.
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Yeah it is the best I've heard yet. XB1 sounds lame and bland, Xbox One is too long and clunky and sounds horrible, Nextbox was sort of okay as a placeholder before we had the name, but X-bone just rolls off the tongue easily, and perfectly fits their target demographic. It's catchier than PS4 actually.
 
I guess maybe it has been mentioned above (maybe not), but I saw a blog post on this console and apparently prior to its reveal MS had registered a few domain names like xbox infinity to throw people off.

Xbox never registered xboxone.com. They are now suing to get this domain--even though it was registered by the owner in 2011. Idiots.
 
Doppel said:
I guess maybe it has been mentioned above (maybe not), but I saw a blog post on this console and apparently prior to its reveal MS had registered a few domain names like xbox infinity to throw people off.

Xbox never registered xboxone.com. They are now suing to get this domain--even though it was registered by the owner in 2011. Idiots.
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Well if xboxone.com was registered for the sole purpose of squatting, then Microsoft deserves to have it. That would take an incredible amount of insight by the purchaser but it should be Microsoft's regardless.
 
whats the current content on xboxone? seeing as it was registered 2 years ago i hope MS loses but they most likely wont
 
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