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The Official Xbox One Thread

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smackababy said:
But, other platforms offer similar services minus some features for free or all features if I use 15 different programs and everyone else I am playing use the exact same services.
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The only thing I feel as though Xbox Live actually offers is the quality of gaming on it. The servers are usually always up, and you're going to get connected to a server quickly and easily with your friends by your side without a problem.

I was about to say the rest of the services (Netflix, Amazon, ESPN, etc..) that are on there should be free, but I think what Microsoft has on their hands which they really don't utilize to it's fullest extent is an enormous social network. You're paying ~$30-60 a year for a social network that you can interact with on an enormous scale with a bunch of other services. Netflix just got sharing to Facebook this year while using your Xbox Live membership, you can share that you're watching something on Netflix on your 360 to Facebook/Twitter right away.

So in essence, you're getting this experience which you really don't get on another device. With a Roku, you launch the app, watch the movie. You're alone. With Apple TV, same thing. I can see Google TV getting a little more involved since it's built on Android. Having never used one, I don't know if that's the case.

Regardless, you're buying into a certain experience/social network that you don't get on any other platform.

Don't get me wrong though. I think the service should be a lot cheaper than what it is. Maybe $30 a whole year instead of the $50/$60 they actually charge. Free would be better, but then I honestly 100% believe you wouldn't be getting the experience you currently get on the Xbox.

I'm just trying to highlight the positives as to using Xbox Live instead of going over to the PS3/PS4.
 
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I'm sorry. I was being sarcastic and making fun of the "PC gaming offers everything Xbox Live does for free" arguments. Sure, I can game on servers, text chat and voice chat with people if we are all using the same programs (of which there are tons). Voice chat alone has quite a few options: TeamSpeak (eww), Ventrilo, Skype, Mumble, RaidCall. Which one should I use? What do my friends have? How do I get all their information? How easy is the set up?

XboxLive offers voice chat and messaging without the need to set up anything and it works cross game and I'd imagine soon cross platform (GFWL and Skype because MS owns both).
 
smackababy said:
XboxLive offers voice chat and messaging without the need to set up anything and it works cross game and I'd imagine soon cross platform (GFWL and Skype because MS owns both).
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I just hope they do a better job implementing some of those social features on the next XBOX. I recall when I was playing Fable 3 with a friend, and we would deride each other for "talking when the chicken was up"... when the game was loading. The problem was that the voice chat was just awful whenever the game was loading as most of the audio was dropped, so you'd only hear a few syllables. I think it did get a bit better when we used XBOX Live Parties instead of just letting the game setup the voice chat, but it still wasn't flawless.

I guess you could say that's the one good thing about PCs. Sometimes they're more than beefy enough that unused resources can easily be taken up by things like voice chat.
 
Aikouka said:
I just hope they do a better job implementing some of those social features on the next XBOX. I recall when I was playing Fable 3 with a friend, and we would deride each other for "talking when the chicken was up"... when the game was loading. The problem was that the voice chat was just awful whenever the game was loading as most of the audio was dropped, so you'd only hear a few syllables. I think it did get a bit better when we used XBOX Live Parties instead of just letting the game setup the voice chat, but it still wasn't flawless.

I guess you could say that's the one good thing about PCs. Sometimes they're more than beefy enough that unused resources can easily be taken up by things like voice chat.
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In almost all games I've played the in game chat doesn't work during loading. I have had very few problems with Party / private chat though.
 
smackababy said:
In almost all games I've played the in game chat doesn't work during loading. I have had very few problems with Party / private chat though.
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yeah if you are using party chat, outside of the game, it works fine. otherwise if you are using in game chat it definitely doesn't work during most load times. noticed this on pretty much all games i've played online.
 
smackababy said:
In almost all games I've played the in game chat doesn't work during loading. I have had very few problems with Party / private chat though.
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Hopefully the large number of CPU cores will improve this, especially if one of them is dedicated to OS-level functions.
 
purbeast0 said:
your first problem was playing fable 3... 😛
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Oh, I've been quite the critic of the game. While the game is not that great as an actual game, the ability to putz around makes it fun to just screw around in the game. 😛

Pheran said:
Hopefully the large number of CPU cores will improve this, especially if one of them is dedicated to OS-level functions.
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That's what I'm hoping for.
 
Took me 30minutes to download an update for BF3 on PS3 compared to ~2minutes for a CoD update on X360. Both files where somewhere about 250MB. That was pretty unacceptable.

The security issue they had where PSN went down for a month, sealed the deal for me anyway.
 
crisium said:
Paying $4 for XBL is paying for nothing which is precisely why we don't want to do it. Unless you consider paying for peer-to-peer or the right to use the Netflix you already paid for to be 'something'.
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Xbox Live is, for many people, $4 superior to PSN.

Hence, it is worth it. That is almost inarguable. It IS a superior service, by and large. For less than $4 a month, some people don't have problem paying that amount for a superior service.

Period.

Please stop this bullshit.
 
Microsoft: Next Xbox will work even when your Internet doesn't

According to an internal Microsoft e-mail sent to all full-time employees working on the next Xbox, "Durango [the codename for the next Xbox] is designed to deliver the future of entertainment while engineered to be tolerant of today's Internet." It continues, "There are a number of scenarios that our users expect to work without an Internet connection, and those should 'just work' regardless of their current connection status. Those include, but are not limited to: playing a Blu-ray disc, watching live TV, and yes playing a single player game."
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Hopefully this kills the stupid "always on" Internet rumor.
 
purbeast0 said:
i will also say, that if the durango can be used as a set top box for some cable providers, specifically FIOS, that would be freaking awesome.
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I'd be tempted to replace my Gaming HTPC with it if it could act as a DVR IF the hard drive size was decent or could be upgraded for a modest cost. I use an older 1.5TB HDD for recordings, and it's fine, but we have to keep in mind that games may require an installation as well, and that will chew up drive space since it's going to be Blu-Ray-based now.
 
Well, what are all the Sony fanboys going to talk about now? I'm guessing we will slowly work back to crying about Xbox live costing $3 a month.
 
Aikouka said:
I'd be tempted to replace my Gaming HTPC with it if it could act as a DVR IF the hard drive size was decent or could be upgraded for a modest cost. I use an older 1.5TB HDD for recordings, and it's fine, but we have to keep in mind that games may require an installation as well, and that will chew up drive space since it's going to be Blu-Ray-based now.
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i would just like it so that i don't have to pay for a set top box in my theater. i don't watch tv down there but do watch football. i don't have a cable box down there yet since i didn't finish it till like at the end of the season. i'd just bring down a cable box on sunday and bring it back up.

would be nice if i could just do that until the durango comes out, then just use the durango as the set top box down there from then on out.
 
American Gunner said:
Well, what are all the Sony fanboys going to talk about now? I'm guessing we will slowly work back to crying about Xbox live costing $3 a month.
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Nothing until the full reveal later this month. The PS4 was a great reveal which we can speculate that's why Microsoft pushed back their announcement. Either way I'll most likely end up purchasing both systems.
 
American Gunner said:
Well, what are all the Sony fanboys going to talk about now? I'm guessing we will slowly work back to crying about Xbox live costing $3 a month.
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I'd imagine they would try and say the damage models in GT6 are better than Forza 5 and how the grass driving physics are more realistic because you can drive over grass with as if it were road.
 
purbeast0 said:
i would just like it so that i don't have to pay for a set top box in my theater. i don't watch tv down there but do watch football. i don't have a cable box down there yet since i didn't finish it till like at the end of the season. i'd just bring down a cable box on sunday and bring it back up.

would be nice if i could just do that until the durango comes out, then just use the durango as the set top box down there from then on out.
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Hm, I'm guessing that you probably need a tuner that supports CableCard-based encryption. Unfortunately, I doubt Microsoft is going to push that sort of hardware in the system... especially if existing PC tuners are indicative of the cost (all of them are above $100)! That's a bummer, because I use a Ceton card with my HTPC for my Comcast subscription. :\
 
Less than two weeks until the reveal. I am hoping it isn't super long like the PS4 reveal. Just give us an hour of good stuff and leave the rest for E3. I doubt they will get too much into a bunch of games. Show of Call of Duty, maybe some teasers for a couple new exclusive IP's, and then show a sizzle reel of some already announced games like Watch Dogs, BF4, and Black Flag.
 
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