Yeah, and the rest of America voted for them too, jerk. Don't pin that garbage on us, this is not a one state nation. For them to run they need to gain a majority of the NATION. So just go away
Yeah, and the rest of America voted for them too, jerk. Don't pin that garbage on us, this is not a one state nation. For them to run they need to gain a majority of the NATION. So just go away
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Are you serious? We went into a very unfavorable state with national polls putting us at between 3% & 8% and we'll finish at 11%. AT best we expected third and we came within 2 percentage points. We did about as well as we expected although some of our hopes were amplified in the last few days. Iowa was never a state we anticipated winning. New Hampshire is an entirely different story. 1st or 2nd is very possible.
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Good post OrooOroo. Look at the numbers, the top three dems pulled in 97% of the vote and all are creatures of the Senate without any executive experience.
Looking at the wiki link, the top three repubs got 72% of the vote with the top two being Governors of States, with only Fred being a creature of the Senate.
I also see Iowa had this wonderful device of uncommitted that used to always win. Did that consensus choice candidate die in 1976?
Looking at the wiki link, the top three repubs got 72% of the vote with the top two being Governors of States, with only Fred being a creature of the Senate.
I also see Iowa had this wonderful device of uncommitted that used to always win. Did that consensus choice candidate die in 1976?
I'm actually wondering about that guy too! I'd like to see him run for the republican office this time around
Hmm..the sweet, sweet scent of 5th place. I guess they should change the tag line to [OVER]lution.
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pretty much. the records even worse when you exclude presidential/vice presidential reelection runs since those are lop sided races. esp the clinton one where they basically learned their lesson and were just followers the second time around. they aren't exactly leaders voting on fresh candidates.
perhaps, but iowa gets the media spin going. its an unholy collusion between uncritical mainstream media loving cheap easy stories to fill air time and politicians/iowa that creates a distorted mess.
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-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Its not over yet, sorry
That might be an accurate Statement on the democratic side. Where Obama only did 31% or so better than Hillary.
But if you are looking at Ron Paul, Second place did 2.5 times as well and first 3.4 times as well. And even Fred slept into 30% better.
NH is likely to be less representative of his national support. NH is probably the state that will turn out the greatest percentage of Ron Paul supporters, or maybe Texas.
So if you take 2nd in NH, when do you plan to start winning?
THANK YOU... You made my point.
What is it with me and iOwa you ask (above), well... I live here and I know first hand how FU-uped this state is.
They only caucus cause they wanted to be first in line. Get all the attention. Get the $$$ rolling in. Period!
And this "caucus" system LOCKS OUT all those people that work evenings and nights.
Like.... police on the streets, firemen on duty, hords of clerks at wally world and 7/11's. ALL LOCKED OUT.
And absentee voting???? Nada, none, no provision. LOCKED OUT!
Working evening/nights people + iOwa caucus = screwed.
Now HOW in Gods name can you call that a fair American system???
If national elections were held that way, there would be riots in the streets.
Even Reagan did badly in iOwa, and he went on to be a republican God.
THATS what it is with me and iOwa... Dont get me started.
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Look. Make all the cracks you want. This isn't about my ego. Maybe it is for you. Most Paul supporters are anticipating doing well in NH & Michigan. If Paul can take 1st in one and 2nd in another he becomes the front runner. We have more money then probably any other republican candidates and possible even the democratic candidates and therfor we will have more to spend. NH residents gave 4x as much money to Ron Paul as did Iowans and NH has half the population of Iowa. If this is a reliable indicator(which I believe it is) then NH has four votes to every one of Iowas waiting for Ron Paul.
No they don't. I mean technically they do, but they don't. Iowa is not about delegates. Iowa is about perception. That ended the minute that the results were in and the media made their judgment. The story from here will be about Huckabee and Obama running away with it. Clinton suffering a huge loss, Edwards staying strong, and McCain coming back. Nothing else matters and that will drive the coverage until New Hampshire and then the next story lines will begin. Delegate count means nothing to the candidates now.
Why are you obsessed lunatics even paying attention to the bottom rankings? This is getting to be hillarious, I mean, c'mon. Jeebus, dudes, PWNED is PWNED. :laugh:
Let's hope your right...
But for curiosity's sake, if Paul did poorly in New Hampshire what does this mean for his campaign? He has all those millions of dollars and it'll seem like such a waste if hes finished so soon.
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