Blackjack200
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Blackjack200
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Right here:
STRATEGY: Sparing civilians leads to heavier casualties
Toughest Day... Without the power of the US Military, which is unequaled, there would be THOUSANDS of non-combatants killed. It is the technology provided by the US taxpayer that makes this war, and the liberation of Iraq possible. A two-edged sword to be sure!
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You would think that Trump's election would have taught fucktards on the opposing side that segregating political messages and agendas by race isn't going to help you win elections....
But... you know... here we are *stares at tweet posted above*
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I like Bernie but Bernie is a strange bird.
When he's on his mark and giving his sermon, Bernie is quite convincing and hits the nail on the head every time. But when his peers, other politicians that Bernie respects dare to challenge Bernie, when that happens Bernie tends to back down and clam up.
As if Bernie loves the fight but only while Bernie is the guy swinging the gloves. When someone swings back, it throws Bernie off balance and hurts his feelings deeply.
Donald Trump doesn't bother Bernie, but attacks from Bernie's friends and associates, well that hurts.
Bernie has got to be a little peeved that so many candidates dropped out and yet not one of those dropouts endorsed Bernie Sanders. That hurts!
How does a Bernie Sanders balance hurt with grumpy?
When he's on his mark and giving his sermon, Bernie is quite convincing and hits the nail on the head every time. But when his peers, other politicians that Bernie respects dare to challenge Bernie, when that happens Bernie tends to back down and clam up.
As if Bernie loves the fight but only while Bernie is the guy swinging the gloves. When someone swings back, it throws Bernie off balance and hurts his feelings deeply.
Donald Trump doesn't bother Bernie, but attacks from Bernie's friends and associates, well that hurts.
Bernie has got to be a little peeved that so many candidates dropped out and yet not one of those dropouts endorsed Bernie Sanders. That hurts!
How does a Bernie Sanders balance hurt with grumpy?
Once again the party of ‘responsibility’ takes no responsibility.Suck it up Nancy.
I wonder why Bernie’s movement failed to get results with this winning platform??
Not Bernie's platform, that's just one Twitter-user.
Though personally I think it's not far from the truth, depending very much on what one means by "America". One probably shouldn't be so quick to surrender the country to those who think they own it, though.
Seems that that particular twitterer was a Warren supporter till it came down to Sanders vs Biden, funnily enough.
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Well, they could be like a lot of other people, just waiting to vote for whoever isn’t trump.
I didn’t vote in the primary mainly because it doesn’t matter who gets the nomination, I’ll be voting for them regardless so why not let those that are passionate about their candidate pick them for everyone else?
I’m still holding on to my prediction though that this will be a record turn out and trump will lose badly. I’ll even stand by my prediction that it will be the youth vote, women, and minorities that really tip the scales against trump.
^^^
I agree,
But, as far as Bernie goes, the youth not showing up hurt him immensely. From what I understand - 13% of "young people" bothered to vote on Tuesday.
Bernie was very popular among my daughter and her friends, but out of 10 or so in her click, only my daughter and one other bothered to actually vote. And she only went because I insisted.
The reason given to me by these kids why they are disinterested is because politics and pretty much any official establishment of politics, to them is a "hurricane of fuckin' lies" and I quote. They'd rather not grace with their attention. They don't naturally understand that the roar of the storm is made up of many millions of tiny voices just like theirs, and they really don't have a concept of just how different opinions can get. None of it makes sense, and none of it seems to want to make sense, so they prefer to just do their daily good deeds and hope that's enough to make the world a better place.
All the soaring rhetoric and energy in the world fall on deaf ears until potential voters see how they fit in to the election process, and the world that election process hopes to build. In that regard, politicians consistently and uniformly fail to reach young adults who are still prioritizing their lives and pondering how abstract and ungratifying (in the short term) things like voting fits into their worldview. They just see a big mess of ugliness they'd rather not feed. Its built into the nature of the system. Many young people just don't vote as much as older people because they don't have the life experience to understand that civics is important.
How you actually translate this into increased participation, I don't know. I've voted in every general election that I've been aware of since I was 18, but didn't start voting in primaries until I got to about 30, as I rarely had (or have now) any particular affinity for either party, nor did I want to end up on their lists. Young people tend to be apathetic about politics and no matter how much talk of "revolution" happens I just think not enough are that motivated or true enough believers to vote. Most people young and old don't consume political grievance and just go about their daily lives.
I agree,
But, as far as Bernie goes, the youth not showing up hurt him immensely. From what I understand - 13% of "young people" bothered to vote on Tuesday.
Bernie was very popular among my daughter and her friends, but out of 10 or so in her click, only my daughter and one other bothered to actually vote. And she only went because I insisted.
The reason given to me by these kids why they are disinterested is because politics and pretty much any official establishment of politics, to them is a "hurricane of fuckin' lies" and I quote. They'd rather not grace with their attention. They don't naturally understand that the roar of the storm is made up of many millions of tiny voices just like theirs, and they really don't have a concept of just how different opinions can get. None of it makes sense, and none of it seems to want to make sense, so they prefer to just do their daily good deeds and hope that's enough to make the world a better place.
All the soaring rhetoric and energy in the world fall on deaf ears until potential voters see how they fit in to the election process, and the world that election process hopes to build. In that regard, politicians consistently and uniformly fail to reach young adults who are still prioritizing their lives and pondering how abstract and ungratifying (in the short term) things like voting fits into their worldview. They just see a big mess of ugliness they'd rather not feed. Its built into the nature of the system. Many young people just don't vote as much as older people because they don't have the life experience to understand that civics is important.
How you actually translate this into increased participation, I don't know. I've voted in every general election that I've been aware of since I was 18, but didn't start voting in primaries until I got to about 30, as I rarely had (or have now) any particular affinity for either party, nor did I want to end up on their lists. Young people tend to be apathetic about politics and no matter how much talk of "revolution" happens I just think not enough are that motivated or true enough believers to vote. Most people young and old don't consume political grievance and just go about their daily lives.
It is hard not to get irritated with young people who go on about politics but never bloody vote. OK, if you're an anarchist and it's a point-of-principle I guess I can respect that (though if that's your excuse for not voting, I better see you smashing up banks and throwing molotovs in riots on a regular basis or I won't believe you). But otherwise, you're being a mug and a dupe.
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woolfe9998
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Fivethirtyeight giving Sanders a 1 in 50 chance of winning the nomination.
fivethirtyeight.com
After Super Tuesday, Joe Biden Is A Clear Favorite To Win The Nomination
After a huge night on Super Tuesday — and with all his major opponents except Sen. Bernie Sanders having dropped out — former Vice President Joe Biden is a stro…
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