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JackSpadesSI

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So, I've got an issue with enchanting: nothing seems to stack in my inventory!

I'll start off with a stack of soul gems and it will look like "Petty Soul Gem (8)". Then, I'll go capture petty souls and it will look like "Petty Soul Gem (Petty), Petty Soul Gem (Petty), Petty Soul Gem (Petty)..." instead of the way more space-friendly "Petty Soul Gem (Petty) (8)". A few of the filled soul gems will even have different values!

Same thing once items are enchanted. I'll start with a stack of forged bracers as "Leather Bracers (8)", but once they're enchanted they split up in my inventory. Also, like the filled soul gems, they have slightly different values - while I'm enchanting a whole bunch, the value of the enchanted item periodically decreases (never increases) by 1.

What gives?!
 

zinfamous

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So, I've got an issue with enchanting: nothing seems to stack in my inventory!

I'll start off with a stack of soul gems and it will look like "Petty Soul Gem (8)". Then, I'll go capture petty souls and it will look like "Petty Soul Gem (Petty), Petty Soul Gem (Petty), Petty Soul Gem (Petty)..." instead of the way more space-friendly "Petty Soul Gem (Petty) (8)". A few of the filled soul gems will even have different values!

Same thing once items are enchanted. I'll start with a stack of forged bracers as "Leather Bracers (8)", but once they're enchanted they split up in my inventory. Also, like the filled soul gems, they have slightly different values - while I'm enchanting a whole bunch, the value of the enchanted item periodically decreases (never increases) by 1.

What gives?!

same problem with me. I just think it's a standard bug. I used to think that items, as I collected them, wouldn't stack if they were stolen, but that isn't the case. They simply decide to not stack, for no apparent reason. I will have 9 petty soul gems in a stack, then 2 or 3 outside of the stack. For some reason, some of them even have different values, although they are the same item (filled or unfilled, unstolen).

I have this problem with the stones of beneziah ("Unusual" gems--if you have not yet ID'd them) The first 6 that I collected stacked nicely. Now, they will place themselves in my inventory, singaly. I have 9, I think. 6 stacked, and 3 single, for some reason.
 

cytoSiN

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I have this problem with the stones of beneziah ("Unusual" gems--if you have not yet ID'd them) The first 6 that I collected stacked nicely. Now, they will place themselves in my inventory, singaly. I have 9, I think. 6 stacked, and 3 single, for some reason.

I have this problem too, and they're quest items so you can't drop them off somewhere to retrieve later when you have them all.
 

zinfamous

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I have this problem too, and they're quest items so you can't drop them off somewhere to retrieve later when you have them all.

I'm wondering if these bugged out because you collect them while they are unusual gems, then after ID'ing them and getting the quest, forcing the name change, they stop stacking?

I know one of thme is classified as stolen
taken from Maven's house or stables, I think, in Riftin
 

Markbnj

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So, I've got an issue with enchanting: nothing seems to stack in my inventory!

I'll start off with a stack of soul gems and it will look like "Petty Soul Gem (8)". Then, I'll go capture petty souls and it will look like "Petty Soul Gem (Petty), Petty Soul Gem (Petty), Petty Soul Gem (Petty)..." instead of the way more space-friendly "Petty Soul Gem (Petty) (8)". A few of the filled soul gems will even have different values!

Same thing once items are enchanted. I'll start with a stack of forged bracers as "Leather Bracers (8)", but once they're enchanted they split up in my inventory. Also, like the filled soul gems, they have slightly different values - while I'm enchanting a whole bunch, the value of the enchanted item periodically decreases (never increases) by 1.

What gives?!

I have filled soul gems that stack properly, other filled soul gems that don't. I just put it down to the incredibly brain dead and buggy interface. I think they put about a week into it, right at the end of development, and the only guy available was the QA intern from ITT Tech.

I also have three fairly heavy items (a bow, a dagger, and a sword) that I picked up along the way and now can't drop because "You cannot remove quest items from your inventory," although I have no clue what quest they are associated with. Stupid crap like that drives me nuts, and as much as I'm enjoying the game it makes me want to just shelve it until someone mods Bethesda's idiocy out.
 

Martimus

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With soul gems I know that different graphical models (not all petty, lesser, etc. soul gems look the same) will not stack. However, even the same graphical models don't stack most of the time when they are filled. Enchanted items never seem to stack, although I can understand this somewhat. The difference in each is likely you gaining enchanting levels as you are making them, since it only takes a couple enchantments to gain a level. Although it could easily be a glitch, as those are obviously common.

I have to admit that the game is far more stable than their past games, so I am far more forgiving of these annoying glitches, because they don't kick me back to the desktop like they would from previous Bethesda games. But they are annoying. I wish we could sort by size, name, quantity, date, and type; but alas we cannot. I hated that in the Witcher 2 as well.
 

Red Storm

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I wish we could sort by size, name, quantity, date, and type; but alas we cannot.

Mods to the rescue!

SkyUI

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zinfamous

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Mods to the rescue!

SkyUI

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I finally installed it and gave it a quick whirl this morning.

I like it--particularly that the favorites menu has been added. Still doesn't exactly fix the real problem with hotkeys that simply do not work.

Also, I downloaded the most updated version of script extender, which is required, but when opening the inventory in-game, it tells me that SkyUI could not find a compatible version of script extender. I suppose it's possible that script extender has been recently updated beyond the current available version of SkyUI?

I see no SkyUI update for magic/powers menu. and nothing new for merchant interfaces. So maybe I'm doing something wrong...
 

Red Storm

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I finally installed it and gave it a quick whirl this morning.

I like it--particularly that the favorites menu has been added. Still doesn't exactly fix the real problem with hotkeys that simply do not work.

Also, I downloaded the most updated version of script extender, which is required, but when opening the inventory in-game, it tells me that SkyUI could not find a compatible version of script extender. I suppose it's possible that script extender has been recently updated beyond the current available version of SkyUI?

I see no SkyUI update for magic/powers menu. and nothing new for merchant interfaces. So maybe I'm doing something wrong...

I also have the problem where it says can't find script extender, but it's been working fine for me.

Now if only someone could do this for the perk trees. I F#@&!$% hate navigating that crap.
 

Red Storm

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That looks nice. While it isn't exactly what I was looking for, it will definitely help.

Does it also organize chest contents as well? (That would be a huge lifesaver!)

It changes every inventory screen to look like that. Corpses, chests, everything should look like that.
 

cytoSiN

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I'm wondering if these bugged out because you collect them while they are unusual gems, then after ID'ing them and getting the quest, forcing the name change, they stop stacking?

Hadn't thought of that, but I think you're right! I had 2 before I turned in the first part of the quest, and those stacked and have remained stacked. All of the others (I'm 3 short but I'm trying to finish it without cheating) refuse to stack.
 

zinfamous

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It changes every inventory screen to look like that. Corpses, chests, everything should look like that.

yes, it is supposed to. But as mentioned, it only works on the inventory screen, for me. not on spells, not on merchants. Haven't tried with chests, yet.
 

Visaoni

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To my best knowledge SkyUI isn't completed yet, and so far should only change the basic inventory screen, meaning looting will use the same UI as always.

One of the other UI mods (q-something maybe?) will change the looting screens though.
 

zinfamous

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To my best knowledge SkyUI isn't completed yet, and so far should only change the basic inventory screen, meaning looting will use the same UI as always.

One of the other UI mods (q-something maybe?) will change the looting screens though.

ah, OK. that sounds better. It does still say that favorites menu is coming soon, but it is available. For now, I only have inventory screen (i). Powers (p) and everything else are standard.


In other news: Boethiah's Ebony Mail = awesome. I'm assuming I can't add a second enchantment? or, I suppose, it already has 2 functional enchantments (the sneak + poison damage)

Related: I'm looking for another good ebony mine. I've long since depleted and used up the ebony extracted from the Orc keep on the eastern side, north of Riften (the one that gives you the bloodkin quest). Is there another good ebony mine? I can't seem to find any...
 

Martimus

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ah, OK. that sounds better. It does still say that favorites menu is coming soon, but it is available. For now, I only have inventory screen (i). Powers (p) and everything else are standard.


In other news: Boethiah's Ebony Mail = awesome. I'm assuming I can't add a second enchantment? or, I suppose, it already has 2 functional enchantments (the sneak + poison damage)

Related: I'm looking for another good ebony mine. I've long since depleted and used up the ebony extracted from the Orc keep on the eastern side, north of Riften (the one that gives you the bloodkin quest). Is there another good ebony mine? I can't seem to find any...

Gloombound mine is the only good one I know. Redbelly mine and Blackreach also have some ebony veins, but not nearly as many as gloombound.
 

zinfamous

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Gloombound mine is the only good one I know. Redbelly mine and Blackreach also have some ebony veins, but not nearly as many as gloombound.

cool, thanks. It sounds familiar, but I'm not sure if I've unlocked it or not. it could be one of those mines or caves that I see on my map and run out of the way just to unlock fast travel, before continuing on. --that isn't the one by the orc village near Riften, is it? Maybe that's why it sounds familiar, heh.

I'm also seeing more and more framerate dips as I progress. is this because I'm opening up too much of the map as I go along, and getting huge AI bottlenecks, or something?

I guess I should finally try out the SSE fix.
 

Spydermag68

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I have 2 problems with 2 different quest with the same type of problem.

1) The Numbers Job - Changing the books at Haelga's Bunkhouse. The problem with this quest is the book I need to change is in a bedroom and when I look at it says to hit E key to change the numbers. Well that does not work. The arrow marker is in-between the floors. I do not get the notification to hit the E key.

2) Miscellaneous Quest - Ask Aldis for information about Angeline's daughter. I go to Solitude and the castle and track do the person. He is stuck in a wall.

Any help?
 

coldmeat

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I have 2 problems with 2 different quest with the same type of problem.

1) The Numbers Job - Changing the books at Haelga's Bunkhouse. The problem with this quest is the book I need to change is in a bedroom and when I look at it says to hit E key to change the numbers. Well that does not work. The arrow marker is in-between the floors. I do not get the notification to hit the E key.

which one is it?

2) Miscellaneous Quest - Ask Aldis for information about Angeline's daughter. I go to Solitude and the castle and track do the person. He is stuck in a wall.

Any help?

I haven't used any of the console commands myself (besides changing FOV) but I believe there is one to teleport NPCs.
 

zinfamous

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I have 2 problems with 2 different quest with the same type of problem.

1) The Numbers Job - Changing the books at Haelga's Bunkhouse. The problem with this quest is the book I need to change is in a bedroom and when I look at it says to hit E key to change the numbers. Well that does not work. The arrow marker is in-between the floors. I do not get the notification to hit the E key.

sounds broken for you. I have several issues with NPCs or items that simply will not activate, for no logical reason. check skyrim wiki to see if this is a common bug for this quest and if there is a work-around.

2) Miscellaneous Quest - Ask Aldis for information about Angeline's daughter. I go to Solitude and the castle and track do the person. He is stuck in a wall.

Any help?

lol--that's terrible. I'm guessing if a reload doesn't help, you should try the console commands.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Console

there is another list on a separate page, too.
 

Specop 007

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Any decent character editors? Wouldnt mind tweaking my skill tree a bit now that I have a bit better understanding of the game.
 

zinfamous

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Any decent character editors? Wouldnt mind tweaking my skill tree a bit now that I have a bit better understanding of the game.

you can do it through the Dev console, but I assume that with over console commands, it doesn't save.
 

Visaoni

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you can do it through the Dev console, but I assume that with over console commands, it doesn't save.

It saves just fine. I've used it a few times here and there when I've changed my mind about a particular perk.

Just be aware that removing a perk does not return a perk point, and adding perks does not consume perk points.