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NTMBK said:
Hey, if we're talking about heinous bullshit the British Empire pulled, let's not forget the Peterloo Massacre. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peterloo_Massacre I grew up near Manchester, I know all about the sins of the past.

Awful shit has happened, and awful shit will happen in the future. But that doesn't mean that we should just stand by and ignore violent rhetoric and incitement to civil war, from either side.
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Fox was being hyperbolic, it's his sardonic bent. Nothing to be concerned about. Metaphoric, not literal, so to speak. A reinterpretation might be to axe them at the polls in 2022 (to amplify the metaphor). However, the metaphor did have to effect of highlighting the treasonous behavior of the R congressional contingency right now.
 
Trump believes that cheating is part of the game. He believes that the Democrats cheated. He believes everyday Americans cheat, or attempt to cheat at most everything they do. Cheating means winning, and winning means cheating. Survival of the fittest. There is no “right” and “wrong” as you and I understand it. What’s “right” is whatever it takes to improve your level in the hierarchy of in the food chain. Trump is a psychopath, or more technically has Antisocial Personality Disorder.

Psychopaths do not attain the sense of affective empathy that normal people begin to develop. Affective empathy is what allows us to conceptualize another person’s emotional and mental state. Psychopaths, consequently, have a tendency to assume other people are the same as them. Trump isn’t projecting his tendencies on to other people because he’s lying. He’s doing it because he genuinely believes everyone else is like him, that they lie and cheat routinely, and so his position is that the only difference between him and Joe Biden, or Barack Obama, or you or me, is who’s more skilled and lying and cheating. He also assumes that everyone else has the same insecurities he does, which is why he insults everyone; childish insults most likely really hurt him, and so he assumes he and they will hurt others. The fact that a well adjusted adult laughs off his insults is literally beyond his capacity to understand.
 
See this is the problem when you are a conservative living in fantasy land, confronted by liberal facts.

A Pro-Trump Voting “Expert” Was Questioned About His Data. It Did Not Go Well for Him. – Mother Jones

At first, the hearing went smoothly for Braynard, who has the professional presentation of a data specialist. But then came state Rep. Bee Nguyen, a Democrat from Atlanta. It turns out she had been doing her own research. Citing an exhibit filed by Braynard that listed people who had voted but who supposedly had registered in Georgia and another state, she pointed out that several names were duplicated on the list. Then she said that she had looked up the first 10 names on the list and had found eight of these people listed in Georgia property records as residents. She reached one of them on the phone, she said, and he confirmed that he lived and voted only in Georgia. Nguyen said she verified this person’s voting record.

Taking another name from this list—a woman allegedly registered in Georgia and Arizona—she confirmed this person’s residence and voting record in Georgia, and she found another voter with the exact same name listed in the Arizona voter rolls, born in the same year but with a different birth date. She also identified another person on the list in a similar situation: same name, different birth dates.

In rapid-fire fashion, Nguyen continued on. She turned to the Braynard list of voters who he said had registered with postal boxes “disguised” as residences. She recognized one of the addresses as being around the corner from her home—a condo complex with a FedEx center on the first floor. (Some apartment buildings use a postal box-like system for their addresses.) A friend in the building sent her a list of residents of the complex. They were all on Braynard’s list, she said. And the same was true, she had discovered, for another condo complex with a FedEx center. On her own, she said, she had discovered that 128 names on this list—more than 10 percent of Braynard’s total number—were errors
 
It's official. California 55 votes are in for the electoral college. 302 for Biden, will get 4 more from Hawaii later today.
 
IronWing said:
The Arizona State Senate has subpoenaed pretty much everything to do with Maricopa County's election, ballots and all. Republican losers are the sorest of losers.

tucson.com

Arizona Senate issues subpoena demanding access to 2 million-plus ballots cast

Maricopa County supervisors were served Tuesday with subpoenas from a state Senate panel demanding access to copies of the more than 2 million ballots cast by Maricopa County voters in
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Flood the zone with shit. Forever.
 
IronWing said:
All these allegations have been reviewed by lower courts and found to be not credible. The Republicans pull shit out of their asses and file it in court.
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Investigations started around five days ago:

abcstlouis.com

Election officials travel to Coffee County, Georgia to begin investigation

COFFEE COUNTY, Ga. (WFXL) — Two officials from the Secretary of State's office arrived in Coffee County Friday morning to begin their investigation into the Board of Elections. Caption: Video: WGXA. Last Wednesday, the SOS office announced that they would be opening an investigation regarding...
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I don't support Trump or Biden (or either party), but what bothers me is the design of the system, as shown here:



My understanding is that the system should only allow an adjudicator to either accept or reject a ballot, with the second considered spoiled. Given that, I don't see the logic in allowing an adjudicator to modify it, as in change votes. Also, there has to be safeguards against accepting duplicates and overvotes.
 
ralfy said:
Investigations started around five days ago:

abcstlouis.com

Election officials travel to Coffee County, Georgia to begin investigation

COFFEE COUNTY, Ga. (WFXL) — Two officials from the Secretary of State's office arrived in Coffee County Friday morning to begin their investigation into the Board of Elections. Caption: Video: WGXA. Last Wednesday, the SOS office announced that they would be opening an investigation regarding...
abcstlouis.com abcstlouis.com

I don't support Trump or Biden (or either party), but what bothers me is the design of the system, as shown here:



My understanding is that the system should only allow an adjudicator to either accept or reject a ballot, with the second considered spoiled. Given that, I don't see the logic in allowing an adjudicator to modify it, as in change votes. Also, there has to be safeguards against accepting duplicates and overvotes.
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IMO the only solution is to throw out the votes in the 28 states that use Dominion voting machines, starting with Louisiana, Iowa, Missouri, Ohio, Alaska and Tennessee. We should also recount the 2016 elections as well, as these machines were also used in some states in those elections.

Although there hasn't been any evidence of any machine tampering, and most issues that were found were actually human errors, the only possible solution available to us is to completely invalidate the election and give Trump four more years. Yes, I know that the the paper-trail ballots match the electronic counting, but the President is complaining, so there must be something wrong.
 
linkgoron said:
Yes, I know that the the paper-trail ballots match the electronic counting, but the President is complaining, so there must be something wrong.
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This is some of the most mentally challenged reasoning ever. Acknowledge the facts then throw that out the window because one of the most prolific public liars in American history is complaining about things that already disproven, because reasons.
 
IronWing said:
The Arizona State Senate has subpoenaed pretty much everything to do with Maricopa County's election, ballots and all. Republican losers are the sorest of losers.

tucson.com

Arizona Senate issues subpoena demanding access to 2 million-plus ballots cast

Maricopa County supervisors were served Tuesday with subpoenas from a state Senate panel demanding access to copies of the more than 2 million ballots cast by Maricopa County voters in
tucson.com tucson.com
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Maricopa County is fighting the subpoenas. Good for them.
tucson.com

Maricopa County supervisors sue rather than comply with senator's subpoenas for election materials

Maricopa County supervisors voted Friday to not comply with subpoenas for election materials issued by the state Senate Judiciary Committee chairman. One reason: concerns about exposing private information on voters.
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linkgoron said:
IMO the only solution is to throw out the votes in the 28 states that use Dominion voting machines, starting with Louisiana, Iowa, Missouri, Ohio, Alaska and Tennessee. We should also recount the 2016 elections as well, as these machines were also used in some states in those elections.

Although there hasn't been any evidence of any machine tampering, and most issues that were found were actually human errors, the only possible solution available to us is to completely invalidate the election and give Trump four more years. Yes, I know that the the paper-trail ballots match the electronic counting, but the President is complaining, so there must be something wrong.
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You're correct, Hillary needs to file a lawsuit with the SC to recount 2016. Maybe we can reverse everything trump did.
 
brycejones said:
I hope so, I will confess my sarcasm meter is frequently broken these days. So much absolutely bat shit crap has been said since election day I can't tell anymore.
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I understand, sarcasm can be difficult to convey via typed words. Speaking of sarcasm, when I found out both my parents voted for Biden, I vowed to never visit their graves again!
 
ralfy said:
Investigations started around five days ago:

abcstlouis.com

Election officials travel to Coffee County, Georgia to begin investigation

COFFEE COUNTY, Ga. (WFXL) — Two officials from the Secretary of State's office arrived in Coffee County Friday morning to begin their investigation into the Board of Elections. Caption: Video: WGXA. Last Wednesday, the SOS office announced that they would be opening an investigation regarding...
abcstlouis.com abcstlouis.com

I don't support Trump or Biden (or either party), but what bothers me is the design of the system, as shown here:



My understanding is that the system should only allow an adjudicator to either accept or reject a ballot, with the second considered spoiled. Given that, I don't see the logic in allowing an adjudicator to modify it, as in change votes. Also, there has to be safeguards against accepting duplicates and overvotes.
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nvm.
 
ralfy said:
Investigations started around five days ago:

abcstlouis.com

Election officials travel to Coffee County, Georgia to begin investigation

COFFEE COUNTY, Ga. (WFXL) — Two officials from the Secretary of State's office arrived in Coffee County Friday morning to begin their investigation into the Board of Elections. Caption: Video: WGXA. Last Wednesday, the SOS office announced that they would be opening an investigation regarding...
abcstlouis.com abcstlouis.com

I don't support Trump or Biden (or either party), but what bothers me is the design of the system, as shown here:



My understanding is that the system should only allow an adjudicator to either accept or reject a ballot, with the second considered spoiled. Given that, I don't see the logic in allowing an adjudicator to modify it, as in change votes. Also, there has to be safeguards against accepting duplicates and overvotes.
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And then the funniest thing happened. A full audit via hand recount confirmed the accuracy of Georgia's Dominion system. And then a machine recount did the same thing all over again. We saw similar outcomes all across the country. Anybody who entertains the notion that election fraud changed the outcome needs to take a long hard look at how they came to be so gullible & easily manipulated.
 
Jhhnn said:
And then the funniest thing happened. A full audit via hand recount confirmed the accuracy of Georgia's Dominion system. And then a machine recount did the same thing all over again. We saw similar outcomes all across the country. Anybody who entertains the notion that election fraud changed the outcome needs to take a long hard look at how they came to be so gullible & easily manipulated.
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But they were ILLEGAL VOTES!!! /s

I have a friend that insist that there were ONLY 130m registered voters so anything above that were illegal votes.
 
dawp said:
But they were ILLEGAL VOTES!!! /s

I have a friend that insist that there were ONLY 130m registered voters so anything above that were illegal votes.
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And I bet their methodology for identifying and allocating "illegal votes" is to subtract votes in excess of 130 million from the total of only one candidate.
 
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