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Genx87

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Yeah, exactly, as long as there is no breastfeeding there is no real threat...

Your ideas show how fucked up your society has gotten.... You can carry your AR-15 platform weapon, four mags in your harness, full gear including a vest and kevlar helmet and walk around with that even in some airports and it's no worries... But you try to feed your fucking infant and you're crossing the line, imagine if kids saw a nipple, it would scar them for life...

But we don't get it, cuz 2A and 'murica is what you tell yourselves. In reality, we DO get it... You are completely insane.

Which airports allow people to bring loaded weapons into them?
 

shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
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Sadly this wasn't my first experience with open carry in awkward places.

Last year I was at the mall in "Kids Place". It's a clothing store for kids. My daughter was 7 at the time. We were in looking for new PJ's for my kids. In comes some some early 20's something kid with a pistol strapped to his hip. My daughter saw that and froze. She grabs me and whispers "Daddy...he has a gun. Is he going to shoot us?" To which I have to respond "No dear, he's not". To which her response was "Then why does he have one?"

Me...uh.....yeah. No good answer to give a 7 year old there that will make any sense.

You didnt have a good answer because you are stupid and ignorant.

Does keeping a fire extinguisher mean you encourage and support arson?
Does owning a spare tire mean you want flats?
Does constructing earthquake-proof buildings mean you love earthquakes?
Does purchasing a first-aid kit mean you desperately hope your family gets lots and lots of horrible injuries?
Do airbags mean we look forward to crashes?
 

J.Wilkins

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Yeah part of the blame is on me. I grew up in a house with guns. Hell for my 5th (yes 5th) birthday I got a .22 bolt action rifle from my Grandpa. I was shooting pistols at the age of 6. Using shotguns by 8. It's just how I was raised. I now live in a large city. Have zero places or needs to hunt. And just don't keep guns around in the house. It's something that I've put on the list next summer when going back and spending time with my parents. Grandpa and I need to take the kids out and at least *expose* them to firearms.

I think every person should at least at a minimum fire a couple different types of firearms under controlled environments to at least understand and appreciate (or appropriately respect) them. Basic firearm awareness and safety should be a basic skill taught to understand how easy it is to accidentally discharge one.

No, none of the blame is on you, seeing idiots walking around armed in society is going to make your kids anxious no matter how much you've exposed them to guns.

I grew up on a farm and shot shotguns, 30-06 bolt action and a variety of guns before I was 10 years old... Still go shooting and I'm an avid hunter so I have a small collection of guns.

Difference is, they are locked up when I'm not using them. In a proper safe, I'm not carrying them around nor do I need them to defend my home.

Guns are fun, there is no denying that and hunting is 99% meditation and 1% actually getting the shot.
 

Zorba

Lifer
Oct 22, 1999
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Sadly this wasn't my first experience with open carry in awkward places.

Last year I was at the mall in "Kids Place". It's a clothing store for kids. My daughter was 7 at the time. We were in looking for new PJ's for my kids. In comes some some early 20's something kid with a pistol strapped to his hip. My daughter saw that and froze. She grabs me and whispers "Daddy...he has a gun. Is he going to shoot us?" To which I have to respond "No dear, he's not". To which her response was "Then why does he have one?"

Me...uh.....yeah. No good answer to give a 7 year old there that will make any sense.
Tell her the truth. He is an idiot, that likes to upset people, but knows he could never win a fair fight.

Or simply put "He has a small dick."
 
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J.Wilkins

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You didnt have a good answer because you are stupid and ignorant.

Does keeping a fire extinguisher mean you encourage and support arson?
Does owning a spare tire mean you want flats?
Does constructing earthquake-proof buildings mean you love earthquakes?
Does purchasing a first-aid kit mean you desperately hope your family gets lots and lots of horrible injuries?
Do airbags mean we look forward to crashes?

Are you retarded? A fire extinguisher is used to put out fires, not to kill people.

The same goes for all of the rest of it.

You really don't get the difference in function between a firearm and an airbag, do you you poor little brainwashed twat.
 

Genx87

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Atlanta is the example I saw, I immediatly checked if breastfeeding was allowed, it wasn't...

Atlant is a special case. The Georgia bill allows gun carry in some parts of the airport. I can only assume that means before TSA. TSA won't allow a loaded weapon through security without special considerations for people like air marshalls or law enforcement.
 

J.Wilkins

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Atlant is a special case. The Georgia bill allows gun carry in some parts of the airport. I can only assume that means before TSA. TSA won't allow a loaded weapon through security without special considerations for people like air marshalls or law enforcement.

Point still stands and it's not the only crowded venue where you can go strapped from tip to toe and all is fine but breastfeeding your infant is illegal.

The point is that something has gone horribly wrong when this is the case.
 

Genx87

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Point still stands and it's not the only crowded venue where you can go strapped from tip to toe and all is fine but breastfeeding your infant is illegal.

The point is that something has gone horribly wrong when this is the case.

Horribly wrong is a subjective term. One example of this does not blanket an entire country with this line of thinking.
 

vi edit

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You didnt have a good answer because you are stupid and ignorant.

Does keeping a fire extinguisher mean you encourage and support arson?
Does owning a spare tire mean you want flats?
Does constructing earthquake-proof buildings mean you love earthquakes?
Does purchasing a first-aid kit mean you desperately hope your family gets lots and lots of horrible injuries?
Do airbags mean we look forward to crashes?


If you wanted to compare directly, does having more fire extinguishers cause more fires? Does having better earthquake protection mean there will be more earthquakes? Does having a spare tire make it more likely I will have a flat?

Because that's the case with guns. The higher the ownership the higher chance of being shot by one. I won't argue the airbag/car safety point because I do honestly believe that all of that tech and safety is actually making us worse drivers.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/2/16399418/us-gun-violence-statistics-maps-charts

I'm far from ignorant.
 

J.Wilkins

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Horribly wrong is a subjective term. One example of this does not blanket an entire country with this line of thinking.

OK, it is my fucking opinion that if a woman breastfeeding her child is so fucking scary that you make it illegal but allow guys strapped on tip to toe in military gear with full combat harness, vest, a loaded with one in the chamber AR-15 or full auto M-16 or M-4 or what the fuck have you that he has a licence for, a sidearm, four mags for each to walk around because that is normal then you have a severe malfunction of the cerebral cortex as a fucking nation.

I should not blanket the nation that argues that this is great and votes to keep it that way? It's a liberal democracy (or rather, you play pretend that it is) so the person to blame is you and every other citizen.

Unanimous guilt comes with democratic elections, I'm responsible for Brexit even if I voted against it because I did jack squat to even try to convince others. There is no defence for that, I'm part of the reason why Brexit happened even though I voted against it and you know what, I own that shit.
 
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Puffnstuff

Lifer
Mar 9, 2005
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I love guns, you can decorate them to promote your individuality or you can hang them on the wall as a conversation piece. You shake your heads at our guns yet I have to laugh when foreigners poke fun at us while driving a little 3 cylinder box on wheels that would fit into the bed of any American pickup truck.:D
 

brycejones

Lifer
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I love guns, you can decorate them to promote your individuality or you can hang them on the wall as a conversation piece. You shake your heads at our guns yet I have to laugh when foreigners poke fun at us while driving a little 3 cylinder box on wheels that would fit into the bed of any American pickup truck.:D

You can do the same things wth a pet rock. Costs less as well.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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You didnt have a good answer because you are stupid and ignorant.

Does keeping a fire extinguisher mean you encourage and support arson?
Does owning a spare tire mean you want flats?
Does constructing earthquake-proof buildings mean you love earthquakes?
Does purchasing a first-aid kit mean you desperately hope your family gets lots and lots of horrible injuries?
Do airbags mean we look forward to crashes?

So triggered...
 

alien42

Lifer
Nov 28, 2004
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Case in point. Was at a birthday party for a 6 year old this weekend. Let me repeat that. Birthday party for a 6 year old. Some guy came open carry to it. Not a cop. Just came strapped. To a party with a dozen 6 year olds running around.

Classy.

i worked at Toys R Us a couple of decades ago and i vividly remember a customer open carrying in the store, blew my mind.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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I dont really care if people around me open carry. Not threatened. I was at 5 guys recently to grab a burger and 2 different people in the establishment were open carrying. Sitting down peacefully eating and not bothering anybody. Family with some kids was sitting at the table near one carrying guy and nobody was bothered.

I live in NH and you dont need a license to open carry, just a state ID. Hell, we used to need a license to conceal carry. Just wait 3 days after you submit the application while the police dept does a background check and then you pay your $10 and you are all set. But now we dont even need a license anymore to conceal carry. The state did away with that requirement. We are not in some backwoods part of the state. We are about 40 minutes from Boston in Southern NH.

I'm a firm believer in the saying: an armed society is a polite society.

What was your conversation like with them? What did you guys talk about?
 

zanemoseley

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A good question is why your child is afraid of a upstanding citizen exercising their right to carry in a responsible manner. You can blame the media, Hollywood and criminals for that. Do you think children in the early 1800's were afraid of a respectable looking person wearing a revolver at the general store?

I grew up with guns to an extent and was taught to respect them. I'm in my mid 30's and just recently got my CC permit, I have a small pistol that stays in my vehicle but has been carried a few times. I've never open carried as I don't want the attention from the uneducated or paranoid. I've also shot nearly 15 sanctioned bullseye pistol matches this year, its one of the most demanding of pistol competitions, I easily shoot 10,000 rounds a year.

My daughter is turning 10 next Friday and is getting a Henry mini bolt single shot as her first firearm. She has been in the Daisy BB gun league for 2 years, they teach firearms basics and safety in addition to teaching fundamental 4 position shooting.

What is scarier than responsible open carry is illogical fear of firearms in the hands of responsible citizens.

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Bitek

Lifer
Aug 2, 2001
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Case in point. Was at a birthday party for a 6 year old this weekend. Let me repeat that. Birthday party for a 6 year old. Some guy came open carry to it. Not a cop. Just came strapped. To a party with a dozen 6 year olds running around.

Classy.

No. Just.... No.

No man. WTF?
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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A good question is why your child is afraid of a upstanding citizen exercising their right to carry in a responsible manner. You can blame the media, Hollywood and criminals for that. Do you think children in the early 1800's were afraid of a respectable looking person wearing a revolver at the general store?

I grew up with guns to an extent and was taught to respect them. I'm in my mid 30's and just recently got my CC permit, I have a small pistol that stays in my vehicle but has been carried a few times. I've never open carried as I don't want the attention from the uneducated or paranoid. I've also shot nearly 15 sanctioned bullseye pistol matches this year, its one of the most demanding of pistol competitions, I easily shoot 10,000 rounds a year.

My daughter is turning 10 next Friday and is getting a Henry mini bolt single shot as her first firearm. She has been in the Daisy BB gun league for 2 years, they teach firearms basics and safety in addition to teaching fundamental 4 position shooting.

What is scarier than responsible open carry is illogical fear of firearms in the hands of responsible citizens.

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Please tell me how people are to identify responsible gun owners from irresponsible gun owners?
 
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alien42

Lifer
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A good question is why your child is afraid of a upstanding citizen exercising their right to carry in a responsible manner.

a better question is why would you just assume someone is an upstanding and responsible citizen just because they are carrying a gun?
 
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Zorba

Lifer
Oct 22, 1999
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OK, it is my fucking opinion that if a woman breastfeeding her child is so fucking scary that you make it illegal but allow guys strapped on tip to toe in military gear with full combat harness, vest, a loaded with one in the chamber AR-15 or full auto M-16 or M-4 or what the fuck have you that he has a licence for, a sidearm, four mags for each to walk around because that is normal then you have a severe malfunction of the cerebral cortex as a fucking nation.

I should not blanket the nation that argues that this is great and votes to keep it that way? It's a liberal democracy (or rather, you play pretend that it is) so the person to blame is you and every other citizen.

Unanimous guilt comes with democratic elections, I'm responsible for Brexit even if I voted against it because I did jack squat to even try to convince others. There is no defence for that, I'm part of the reason why Brexit happened even though I voted against it and you know what, I own that shit.

Just FYI, Georgia Law allows breastfeeding anywhere. ATL actually also provides nice places for pumping as well.
 

zanemoseley

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a better question is why would you just assume someone is an upstanding and responsible citizen just because they are carrying a gun?
Consider using common sense and the intuition that led to our evolution. Maybe I'm spoiled living in the south but it's not the people open carrying that you have to worry about, its the scum bags breaking into your house to steal shit to trade for opiates.

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alien42

Lifer
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Consider using common sense and the intuition that led to our evolution. Maybe I'm spoiled living in the south but it's not the people open carrying that you have to worry about, its the scum bags breaking into your house to steal shit to trade for opiates.

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so you don't have a reasonable answer to the question, fair enough.

as for living in the south, the mere fact that you consider that being "spoiled" speaks volumes about you.
 
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ivwshane

Lifer
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so you don't have a reasonable answer to the question, fair enough.

as for living in the south, the mere fact that you consider that being "spoiled" speaks volumes about you.

The killer from Las Vegas obviously had a demeanor about him that screamed irresponsible gun owner.

Obviously.


/s
 
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