The "N" word

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Kirby

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Clayton Bigsby: Hey, *****! Turn that jungle music down! Woogie boogie, *****! Woogie boogie!
White Hip-Hop Fan: Did he just call us *****?... AWESOME!


:laugh:
 

Coldkilla

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I don't believe in 'swear words', 'offensive phrases' or 'religious garbage'. So this whole 'N' word thing is just plainly stupid. There are no slaves now, so the people alive now being called that, shouldn't get offended because it doesn't apply to them. 'Crackers' (slave term refering to white slave owners) is used today, and get this, I don't give a flying 'F'.

Stupid offensive phrases... will they ever go away? :frown:
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: skull
Its all in how its said. I'm white my girl is black and I say awesome dude in front of her and all my other black friends all the time. One time I said it in front of this black dude for the first time. He was like what did you just say? I said awesome dude he was like are you trying to get your ass beat. I started to say something and he said i'm just kiddin my awesome dude its cool. Of course if you call them a ***** in a derogatory way they will take offense.

I don't know any black people that actually say african-american either. I always say black people.

Could you pass me the oar, n-word Jim?
 

Tylanner

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Originally posted by: dabuddha
Double standards FTL :/

Are you kidding me?

You obviously do NOT understand the history of the N word.

This is anything but double standards.
 

Coldkilla

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When White Man Say: NXXGXXR. He gets his arse whooped.
When Black Man Can Say: NXXGXXR. He is praised by all.

When white man who never owned slaves and does not condone slavery says the N-Word:
He instigates a fight.

When black man who was never a slave says the N-Word, he is suddenly cool.

Thus: Double Standard.



If all white people were called murderous monsters for the forced movement of indians, I wouldn't think twice because you know what? I didn't do it. People from the past did. I never knew them or condoned their actions. So... yea, this is a really stupid discussion. White/Blacks should be able to say WTF they want to say... its just a term that expresses emotion, nothing more.
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: Alistar7
Too many tards, need genetic testing at birth so everyone understands we all come from common stock.

The most pure gene pool left is most likely found on the continent of Africa. That means more variables and possibilities, the greatest potential of human evolution. Americans are truly the mutts of the world, with the most common and limited genetic potential.

That's a stupid comment.
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: meltdown75
If there was one person on Earth that didn't like me saying it, I wouldn't say it. So I don't. That's just the kind of guy I am.

It's not like my vocabulary is suffering because of it, that's for damn sure.

What confuses me is the people that think they are being held back or losing some sort of freedom when others don't like the terms they use. The old, "nothing is offensive, only dumb people are offended" etc etc doesn't really fly with me. Under the same rationale, eventually all crimes are not really crimes. When you stab someone in the face, they shouldn't be offended by it.

Refraining from using dumb terms like N is moving forward. Most people, especially the internet forum kind, disagree and think that everything is fair game. "If you are offended, that is YOUR problem" kinda thing. meh, grow up n00bs.

The word "and" offends me. Proceed.
 

Coldkilla

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Alistar7
Too many tards, need genetic testing at birth so everyone understands we all come from common stock.

The most pure gene pool left is most likely found on the continent of Africa. That means more variables and possibilities, the greatest potential of human evolution. Americans are truly the mutts of the world, with the most common and limited genetic potential.

That's a stupid comment.

Yea, I agree. a*nd.... this whole "america is stupid" band wagon crap has got to stop. Theres a lot of smart americans out there who actually try their best. The problem is since our beloved president doesnt care about our education system, people are forced to grow up without a decent education. But this does not give you the right to call 'all' americans stupid. The funny thing is, America consists of Britains, Mexicans, Iranians, etc... so you sir are making fun of yourself.
 

91TTZ

Lifer
Jan 31, 2005
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Originally posted by: Tylanner
Originally posted by: dabuddha
Double standards FTL :/

Are you kidding me?

You obviously do NOT understand the history of the N word.

This is anything but double standards.

It is still a double standard. The people alive today are in no way responsible for actions which happened in the past, and therefore you cannot place any blame on them or hold them to that double standard.
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: Coldkilla
Yea, I agree. a*nd.... this whole "america is stupid" band wagon crap has got to stop. Theres a lot of smart americans out there who actually try their best. The problem is since our beloved president doesnt care about our education system, people are forced to grow up without a decent education. But this does not give you the right to call 'all' americans stupid. The funny thing is, America consists of Britains, Mexicans, Iranians, etc... so you sir are making fun of yourself.

You're yelling at him about jumping on an America-bashing bandwagon, then you blame problems with the entire country's educational system on the President. Now that's amazing.
 

meltdown75

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Nov 17, 2004
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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: meltdown75
If there was one person on Earth that didn't like me saying it, I wouldn't say it. So I don't. That's just the kind of guy I am.

It's not like my vocabulary is suffering because of it, that's for damn sure.

What confuses me is the people that think they are being held back or losing some sort of freedom when others don't like the terms they use. The old, "nothing is offensive, only dumb people are offended" etc etc doesn't really fly with me. Under the same rationale, eventually all crimes are not really crimes. When you stab someone in the face, they shouldn't be offended by it.

Refraining from using dumb terms like N is moving forward. Most people, especially the internet forum kind, disagree and think that everything is fair game. "If you are offended, that is YOUR problem" kinda thing. meh, grow up n00bs.

The word "and" offends me. Proceed.
OMG U PWNED ME!!1!111
 

Alistar7

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Originally posted by: Coldkilla
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Alistar7
Too many tards, need genetic testing at birth so everyone understands we all come from common stock.

The most pure gene pool left is most likely found on the continent of Africa. That means more variables and possibilities, the greatest potential of human evolution. Americans are truly the mutts of the world, with the most common and limited genetic potential.

That's a stupid comment.

Yea, I agree. a*nd.... this whole "america is stupid" band wagon crap has got to stop. Theres a lot of smart americans out there who actually try their best. The problem is since our beloved president doesnt care about our education system, people are forced to grow up without a decent education. But this does not give you the right to call 'all' americans stupid. The funny thing is, America consists of Britains, Mexicans, Iranians, etc... so you sir are making fun of yourself.

Those facts are stupid?
 

Alistar7

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http://www.sciencedaily.com/re...99/01/990125073157.htm

Genetic diversity in Africa is extremely high, even between closely related or located groups and much higher than diversity in other human populations. This diversity suggests a recent African origin for modern humans and a raft of potentially fertile medical research, according to a Penn State evolutionary biologist.


http://www.umich.edu/news/inde...ses/2005/Oct05/r101805

The genetic diversity of populations was found to be greatest in Africa and least in the Americas.


Stupid, stupid, facts. I really don't see how pointing out Africa has more genetic diversity equals bashing American society or making a comment on our overall intellectual prowess.

Too many tards, need genetic testing at birth so everyone understands we all come from common stock.

That applied to all humans BTW.

Of course I will look into ColdKilla's assertion that it is all the fault of Bush :confused:
 

Alistar7

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Originally posted by: Coldkilla
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Alistar7
Too many tards, need genetic testing at birth so everyone understands we all come from common stock.

The most pure gene pool left is most likely found on the continent of Africa. That means more variables and possibilities, the greatest potential of human evolution. Americans are truly the mutts of the world, with the most common and limited genetic potential.

That's a stupid comment.

Yea, I agree. a*nd.... this whole "america is stupid" band wagon crap has got to stop. Theres a lot of smart americans out there who actually try their best. The problem is since our beloved president doesnt care about our education system, people are forced to grow up without a decent education. But this does not give you the right to call 'all' americans stupid. The funny thing is, America consists of Britains, Mexicans, Iranians, etc... so you sir are making fun of yourself.

91TTZ, ColdKilla:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PDKcX0Ji90
 

91TTZ

Lifer
Jan 31, 2005
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Originally posted by: Alistar7
http://www.sciencedaily.com/re...99/01/990125073157.htm

Genetic diversity in Africa is extremely high, even between closely related or located groups and much higher than diversity in other human populations. This diversity suggests a recent African origin for modern humans and a raft of potentially fertile medical research, according to a Penn State evolutionary biologist.


http://www.umich.edu/news/inde...ses/2005/Oct05/r101805

The genetic diversity of populations was found to be greatest in Africa and least in the Americas.


Stupid, stupid, facts. I really don't see how pointing out Africa has more genetic diversity equals bashing American society or making a comment on our overall intellectual prowess.

Too many tards, need genetic testing at birth so everyone understands we all come from common stock.

That applied to all humans BTW.

Of course I will look into ColdKilla's assertion that it is all the fault of Bush :confused:

You do know that the average IQs in Africa are the lowest in the world. This is also a fact, one which isn't politically correct to talk about.

Please analyze that one.
 

Alistar7

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It was never a question of intellect, only genetic diversity, potential, and the origin/migration of man.

Having greater genetic diversity, it is given the greatest intellectual possibility is also found in Africa.
 

91TTZ

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Alistar7
It was never a question of intellect, only genetic diversity, potential, and the origin/migration of man.

Having greater genetic diversity, it is given the greatest intellectual possibility is also found in Africa.

But as reality plays out, we see that this hasn't been the case. Average IQ and SAT scores give you a pretty accurate representation of how well groups perform, and individual achievements gives you a decent idea of how that individual performs.

With regards to sports, it's quite obvious that the fastest people on Earth are from, or descended from Western African countries, while Eastern African countries completely dominate endurance footraces.

But as far as IQ goes, the numbers speak differently.
 

Alistar7

Lifer
May 13, 2002
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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Alistar7
It was never a question of intellect, only genetic diversity, potential, and the origin/migration of man.

Having greater genetic diversity, it is given the greatest intellectual possibility is also found in Africa.

But as reality plays out, we see that this hasn't been the case. Average IQ and SAT scores give you a pretty accurate representation of how well groups perform, and individual achievements gives you a decent idea of how that individual performs.

With regards to sports, it's quite obvious that the fastest people on Earth are from, or descended from Western African countries, while Eastern African countries completely dominate endurance footraces.

But as far as IQ goes, the numbers speak differently.


Evolutionary reality has not been "played out". This was never a question of intellect, or a comparision between groups other than genetic diversity and potential. You obviouly don't even understand the basic tenets of genetics/evolution.

BTW you are crediting IQ's only to genetic background, not counting economic, educational, dietary factors etc.


 

91TTZ

Lifer
Jan 31, 2005
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Originally posted by: Alistar7



Evolutionary reality has not been "played out". This was never a question of intellect, or a comparision between groups other than genetic diversity and potential. You obviouly don't even understand the basic tenets of genetics/evolution.

BTW you are crediting IQ's only to genetic background, not counting economic, educational, dietary factors etc.

Huh? What does educational background have to do with IQ? You're clueless.
 

Alistar7

Lifer
May 13, 2002
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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Alistar7



Evolutionary reality has not been "played out". This was never a question of intellect, or a comparision between groups other than genetic diversity and potential. You obviouly don't even understand the basic tenets of genetics/evolution.

BTW you are crediting IQ's only to genetic background, not counting economic, educational, dietary factors etc.

You obviously have no idea about IQ, since economics and education have absolutely nothing at all to do with it. You are born with a certain IQ.

You fail, miserably I might add. Suggested reading:

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/i...4_OU01_AA240_SH20_.jpg

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/31r9rFC0OOL.jpg

Ready to make the best contribution possible from you to the gene pool, consult this manual:

http://www.iambesieged.com/wp-...ds/2007/01/dummies.JPG

 

gingerstewart55

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Originally posted by: LS20
Originally posted by: Aimster
Yet the N word will get you fired from your job and banned on Internet forums.
Calling someone a redneck will be ignored.
How many whites were captured, sold as slaves, and lynched?

Yeah.... KINDA a little bit of difference in history there

Don't know about lynched, but the Muslims had a thriving slave trade for over a thousand years and highly prized white slaves over black slaves.

From the book White Slaves, Black Masters, An Anthology of American Barbary Captivity Narratives by Paul Baepler, The University of Chicago Press 1999, Christian slaves of European ancestry were hardly an uncommon phenomenon in the Barbary States.

The first-person narratives reproduced in this book do not support the often-repeated contention that slavery was somehow a more human institution in the Islamic world than it was in the European colonies of the New World.

By and large, the Christian slaves were poorly fed and housed, existing, by one account, on a meager ration of two slices of bread and a small quantity of beans per day. Clothing ? and medical care -- was provided by sympathetic free Europeans living in North Africa; slave-owners provided nothing. Spanish Catholic priests even built a large hospital in Algeria to look after ill and dying Christian slaves.

The most popular punishment was the ?bastinado? ? hundreds of blows on the soles of the feet with a thick wooden truncheon. For more severe offenses, such as attempting to escape or ridiculing the Muslim religion or prophet, slaves were executed in particularly cruel ways: by crucifixion, burning at the stake or impalement on huge iron hooks until death. The narrators of these slave accounts witnessed many acts of brutality toward the Christian slaves, as well as toward the general North African populace ruled over by the elite: the beys, deys and bashaws of the Barbary States.



And Muslim/Islamic attitudes towards black slaves were no better than in the U.S., according to the book Slavery in the Arab World, by Murray Gordon, New Amsterdam Books, New York, NY 1989.

Some of Gordon?s research disputes the oft-repeated charge that racism did not play a part in Islamic slave society. While it is true that the Muslims of the Middle East took slaves of all colors and ethnicities, they considered white slaves more valuable than black ones and developed racist attitudes toward the darker skinned people.

Even the famous Arab philosopher Ibn Khaldun, expressed racist attitudes toward black Africans: ?The only people who accept slavery are the Negroes, owing to their low degree of humanity and their proximity to the animal stage,? Khaldun wrote.

Gordon covers the Arab/African slave trades up until the mid-20th Century, noting that Saudi Arabia only abolished the practice in the early 1960s. Unlike the European nations and the USA, the Arab nations did not abolish African slavery voluntarily out of moral conscience, but due to considerable economic and military pressure applied by the great colonial powers of time, France and Britain. Slavery is still practiced in two Islamic nations: The Sudan and Mauritania.


More info can be read in Race and Slavery in the Middle East, by Bernard Lewis, Oxford University Press (Trade); Reprint edition (April 1992)



Some research by Ohio State University history professor Robert Davis, puts white European Christian slaves captured or taken by Islamic/Muslim slavers between the 16th to the 18th centuries as 1-1.25 million.

So, please take your "blacks were the only slaves and whites were the only slavers" attitude and go learn some history. The White European colonial slave trade, that ended in the mid-1860's-1870's, was very late to the slavery party, and was only copying what had been practiced by others for over 1000 years......and remember, The Qur'an, like the Old and the New Testaments, assumes the existence of slavery. It regulates the practice of the institution and thus implicitly accepts it. The Prophet Muhammad and those of his Companions who could afford it themselves owned slaves; some of them acquired more by conquest.
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: Alistar7

You fail, miserably I might add. Suggested reading:

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/i...4_OU01_AA240_SH20_.jpg

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/31r9rFC0OOL.jpg

Ready to make the best contribution possible from you to the gene pool, consult this manual:

http://www.iambesieged.com/wp-...ds/2007/01/dummies.JPG

Other than trolling and posting funny pictures, you aren't providing much proof or even understanding the little "proof" you do provide.

Please explain to this forum how education will change your IQ. I would like you to address this point now, please don't dodge it.