The Most Overrated Player in the NFL?

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: Tylanner

Originally posted by: WisMan

Originally posted by: Gatos
I would have to say that the most overrated player in this league is Donavan Mcnabb. I am just not impressed with the guy.

:thumbsup: I agree.

Then you'll go down in flames like Rush!!

Thing is, Rush was correct in what he said, but it was more about who he is and the WAY he said it.

 

[WisMan]

Originally posted by: Tylanner

Originally posted by: WisMan

Originally posted by: Gatos
I would have to say that the most overrated player in this league is Donavan Mcnabb. I am just not impressed with the guy.

:thumbsup: I agree.

Then you'll go down in flames like Rush!!

Rush went down for implying that he was overrated because he was African American, I just think he?s overrated because.. well who knows why some people like him so much. Until TO came along i wasn?t impressed with anything he accomplished.

Then again it might just be that whole 4th and 26 thing, and this is all about spite.

On a side note the salary cap was $80.582 Million in the 2004 season.

 

[cliftonite]

Big Ben

<---- Giants fan.

 

[Zebo]

none of these guys are overrated. Even if they are the worst player at thier position out of all the NFL teams that makes them better athlete than over 6 billion other souls.

I'd like to see something you'all are ranked 36th in the world at. This is just crap and hate journalism.

 

[Kelemvor]

Warren Sapp

 

[murphy55d]

NO QUESTION this is Michael Vick. He is completely LOST on the field when he is throwing the ball. He does not make good decisions, he has piss-poor pocket awareness, he has severe issues on his timing patterns, he can't read coverages, and he still has issues with aggressive, blitzing defenses. He makes a ton of plays with his feet, because he is an incredible athlete. However, as a QB, he is average at best.

Oh, and Zebo, STFU. That's the lamest crap I've ever heard. Nobody here is saying we are better than any NFL player. Nobody from SI, the Sporting News, ESPN, or any other media outlet claims to be able to play the game. They're overrated compared to the rest of their peers, not compared to Zebo the Anandtech Poster, or whatever. It's their jobs as journalists and our RIGHT as fans (who pays their salaries?... fans do), to criticize, boo, jeer or whatever.

BTW, FrankyJunior, excellent call on Sapp. He is IMO the most overrated defensive player in the NFL.

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: Dudd

Originally posted by: MichaelD
That would be 99% of them. Along with the basketball and baseball players that whine that they are worth "more than $1M/per season."

I long for the day when salary caps is the norm. Of course, modern day pro-sports guys make more $$ from product endorsements than they do salary. More power to them in that arena, but IMO, salary should be capped.

The NFL has a salary cap.

I didn't know that. I'd imagine it's like $3M/year, right? :roll: It should be capped at say, $200K/year.

If the players don't like it, they can go to work in the field they "attained" their college degree in. Most likely Shop Tools or Business Economics, etc.

Let them start at the bottom at $18K/year like the rest of the college graduates.

:roll:

You don't know a whole lot about our nation's economy and the way it works, do you?

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: WisMan

Originally posted by: Gatos
I would have to say that the most overrated player in this league is Donavan Mcnabb. I am just not impressed with the guy.

:thumbsup: I agree.

You're all crazy. Look at McNabb's numbers this year vs past seasons, the season he's having this year is ranked 5th all time by espn.com of any Quarterback EVER (Peyton is #1 of course). Also, having the worst receiving corps for the past 3 years didn't help his stats, TO has turned him into the 2nd best QB IN THE LEAGUE!

4th and 26, b!tch! 14.2 seconds! (If you don't know what I'm talking about, you shouldn't open your mouth because you don't follow football).

 

[Mathlete]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: WisMan

Originally posted by: Gatos
I would have to say that the most overrated player in this league is Donavan Mcnabb. I am just not impressed with the guy.

:thumbsup: I agree.

You're all crazy. Look at McNabb's numbers this year vs past seasons, the season he's having this year is ranked 5th all time by espn.com of any Quarterback EVER (Peyton is #1 of course). Also, having the worst receiving corps for the past 3 years didn't help his stats, TO has turned him into the 2nd best QB IN THE LEAGUE!

4th and 26, b!tch! 14.2 seconds! (If you don't know what I'm talking about, you shouldn't open your mouth because you don't follow football).

Me thinks that was due to the poor defense and not due to the strength of McNabb.

 

[Argo]

Vick

 

[amish]

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: Dudd

Originally posted by: MichaelD
That would be 99% of them. Along with the basketball and baseball players that whine that they are worth "more than $1M/per season."

I long for the day when salary caps is the norm. Of course, modern day pro-sports guys make more $$ from product endorsements than they do salary. More power to them in that arena, but IMO, salary should be capped.

The NFL has a salary cap.

I didn't know that. I'd imagine it's like $3M/year, right? :roll: It should be capped at say, $200K/year.

If the players don't like it, they can go to work in the field they "attained" their college degree in. Most likely Shop Tools or Business Economics, etc.

Let them start at the bottom at $18K/year like the rest of the college graduates.

before you start knocking economics try taking econometrics asshat. it really just sounds like you are jealous that someone is getting paid for a skill/talent that you don't have. and the only way a college grad is going to make 18K a year is if he/she majored in burger flipping.

 

[Mathlete]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: WisMan

Originally posted by: Gatos
I would have to say that the most overrated player in this league is Donavan Mcnabb. I am just not impressed with the guy.

:thumbsup: I agree.

You're all crazy. Look at McNabb's numbers this year vs past seasons, the season he's having this year is ranked 5th all time by espn.com of any Quarterback EVER (Peyton is #1 of course). Also, having the worst receiving corps for the past 3 years didn't help his stats, TO has turned him into the 2nd best QB IN THE LEAGUE!

4th and 26, b!tch! 14.2 seconds! (If you don't know what I'm talking about, you shouldn't open your mouth because you don't follow football).

Could you please point me to where espn.com says that. I can't find it and it sounds interesting.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: mjquilly

Originally posted by: mpitts
A lot of people will say it is Vick, but that is BS.

Vick wins football games. End of story.

Most of their wins, I really wouldn't say Vick "won" the game...I'd be quicker to say the defense has been winning games than Vick. He makes way too many bad decisions, and his unreal athleticism can't make up for all of them.

Vick just isn't a QB. He's a runningback who throws the ball occasionally.

I personally think that Ray Lewis is overrated. Sure, he's one of the top tacklers in the NFL, but if you look at the list of players that have similar, or better stats, you hardly ever hear of them. So why all the hype for Lewis? Because he runs his mouth all the time?

Ray Lewis? Do you even watch football? Do you even have a clue why he's the first man to the ball every time?

2nd in the NFL in Cmb Tackles in his 9th season, b!tch! How many years did he lead the league in tackles? Did he spearhead one of the best defenses of all time in 2000 as a Super Bowl Champion? Does he still spearhead one of the best defenses of the NFL? Ok, then stfu...

 

[rsd]

Originally posted by: herkulease
I say Tom Brady. commentators talk like as if he's montana. BUt he's a yo-yo. No consitency.one game he's hot the next he's no where to be found. He doesn't not deserve 2 superbowl MVPs. the 1st one should've gone to ty law. without law's int and td. brady driving into fg range was meaningless. 2nd one I say he deserved that one.

don't bother mentioning the win streak.

of the 1st 6 wins they got this year to make it 18 in a row. Only the Jets and the Colts are legit teams. Seattle is a remote 3rd.

as it stand today combined w/l record of teams they've beaten is 67-76

their remaining schedule is a cake wake. Miami, Jets and Niners.

Yes its a rant. I'm just plain tired of commentators going on and on about how get the coach Bill Belichick(can't spell his last name) and the pats are the greatest.

I guess the NFL needs a story.

27-1 (or whatever it is) in the last two seasons biatch. There is a REASON why people talk about them glowingly. Say it again, 2 SB in 3 years. Only the Broncos have done something like that in the last what..10-15 years, and it has already been revealed the circumvented the salary cap during those times.

For overrated,

Ray "Let me jump on the pile at the end of a play then do my dance" Lewis

followed by Ben Roethlisberger (not that he won't be a good/great QB, but at this point he is worse than Tom Brady circa 2001. Isn't his max yards in a game like 231 or something? It's his team's running and D that is winning mostly).

 

[rsd]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: mjquilly

Originally posted by: mpitts
A lot of people will say it is Vick, but that is BS.

Vick wins football games. End of story.

Most of their wins, I really wouldn't say Vick "won" the game...I'd be quicker to say the defense has been winning games than Vick. He makes way too many bad decisions, and his unreal athleticism can't make up for all of them.

Vick just isn't a QB. He's a runningback who throws the ball occasionally.

I personally think that Ray Lewis is overrated. Sure, he's one of the top tacklers in the NFL, but if you look at the list of players that have similar, or better stats, you hardly ever hear of them. So why all the hype for Lewis? Because he runs his mouth all the time?

Ray Lewis? Do you even watch football? Do you even have a clue why he's the first man to the ball every time?

2nd in the NFL in Cmb Tackles in his 9th season, b!tch! How many years did he lead the league in tackles? Did he spearhead one of the best defenses of all time in 2000 as a Super Bowl Champion? Does he still spearhead one of the best defenses of the NFL? Ok, then stfu...

Lewis WAS good..he isn't nearly the player he once was. Ed Reed is twice the player.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: Mathlete

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: WisMan

Originally posted by: Gatos
I would have to say that the most overrated player in this league is Donavan Mcnabb. I am just not impressed with the guy.

:thumbsup: I agree.

You're all crazy. Look at McNabb's numbers this year vs past seasons, the season he's having this year is ranked 5th all time by espn.com of any Quarterback EVER (Peyton is #1 of course). Also, having the worst receiving corps for the past 3 years didn't help his stats, TO has turned him into the 2nd best QB IN THE LEAGUE!

4th and 26, b!tch! 14.2 seconds! (If you don't know what I'm talking about, you shouldn't open your mouth because you don't follow football).

Could you please point me to where espn.com says that. I can't find it and it sounds interesting.

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[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: rsd

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: mjquilly

Originally posted by: mpitts
A lot of people will say it is Vick, but that is BS.

Vick wins football games. End of story.

Most of their wins, I really wouldn't say Vick "won" the game...I'd be quicker to say the defense has been winning games than Vick. He makes way too many bad decisions, and his unreal athleticism can't make up for all of them.

Vick just isn't a QB. He's a runningback who throws the ball occasionally.

I personally think that Ray Lewis is overrated. Sure, he's one of the top tacklers in the NFL, but if you look at the list of players that have similar, or better stats, you hardly ever hear of them. So why all the hype for Lewis? Because he runs his mouth all the time?

Ray Lewis? Do you even watch football? Do you even have a clue why he's the first man to the ball every time?

2nd in the NFL in Cmb Tackles in his 9th season, b!tch! How many years did he lead the league in tackles? Did he spearhead one of the best defenses of all time in 2000 as a Super Bowl Champion? Does he still spearhead one of the best defenses of the NFL? Ok, then stfu...

Lewis WAS good..he isn't nearly the player he once was. Ed Reed is twice the player.

ahahahahha another classic. Comparing a SS to a LB? Too funny, especially since it's a fact that Ray Lewis is one of the main reasons Reed has so many INT's this year. Furthermore, it took Reed till his 3rd season (this year) to be nominated for the Pro Bowl. Lewis was nominated his 2nd in 1997, and then went in 98, 99, 00, 01, 02, and 03. Seven years in a row. 4 years leading the league in tackles. Defensive MVP of the NFL in 2000 and last year. Super Bowl MVP. 2nd in the league this year in Cmb Tackles in his 9th season. To say that Ed Reed is twice the player shows that you've never watched a Ravens game, let alone football in general.

 

[Qwest]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: mjquilly

Originally posted by: mpitts
A lot of people will say it is Vick, but that is BS.

Vick wins football games. End of story.

Most of their wins, I really wouldn't say Vick "won" the game...I'd be quicker to say the defense has been winning games than Vick. He makes way too many bad decisions, and his unreal athleticism can't make up for all of them.

Vick just isn't a QB. He's a runningback who throws the ball occasionally.

I personally think that Ray Lewis is overrated. Sure, he's one of the top tacklers in the NFL, but if you look at the list of players that have similar, or better stats, you hardly ever hear of them. So why all the hype for Lewis? Because he runs his mouth all the time?

Ray lewis? watch a ravens game and he is involved in almost every single play. he's the reason for their superbowl title.

ray lewis and favre being overrated is crazy talk.

Most Overrated?
Keyshawn
Warren Sapp
Jeremy Shockey

 

[Kev]

Originally posted by: SofaKing

Originally posted by: Gatos
I would have to say that the most overrated player in this league is Donavan Mcnabb. I am just not impressed with the guy.

yeah, TO is the reason he has such good numbers.

He actually had better numbers during the stretch to close out last season without TO. Nice try though

 

[Ilmater]

Originally posted by: trilks

Originally posted by: Evadman
<---- Bears fan.

Same here.

What a bunch of crap. Have they ever seen him play? Sure, he's had hamstring injuries this year, but that a load of BS. I vote for Favre.

Favre for most overrated player in the NFL?

Die. And turn in your man card. The guy fvcking played the game of a LIFETIME right after his dad died, and HE PLAYED WITH A BROKEN THUMB ON HIS THROWING HAND - and played well! You wanna give that one a shot?

 

[Ilmater]

Originally posted by: TwiceOver
Randy Moss

Whatever. He's MAYBE the fastest receiver in the game, and he's got the moves to get around corners too. The guy's a great player.

 

[Phokus]

My vote goes to Champ Baily, Ty Law (and i'm a patriots fan), Mike Vick, Jeremey Shockey.

 

[GasX]

My List:

Ben Rothlisberger
Keyshawn Johnson
Chad Pennington

 

[GasX]

Originally posted by: Kev

Originally posted by: SofaKing

Originally posted by: Gatos
I would have to say that the most overrated player in this league is Donavan Mcnabb. I am just not impressed with the guy.

yeah, TO is the reason he has such good numbers.

He actually had better numbers during the stretch to close out last season without TO. Nice try though

Yeah, throwing four TDs with a broken leg and no good receivers is just weak...

Avoiding a all out pass rush for 14 seconds and throwing a 60+ yard pass completion is lame...

Having better numbers every year is just pathetic...

I'd like to know who DOES impress you...

 

[WT]

Watch Vick play against the Tampa Bay defense, then he won't look so good anymore. Its amazing how their defense has him figured out. On any given week, Vick can take your breath away with a scramble and run for a 40 yard score .... but its never against the Bucs !