Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Two words: Ben Roethlisberger.
Originally posted by: Ne0
I don't think Vick is overrated because I've never heard anyone say that he was the best. Since Vick's injury, Falcons without Vick: 2-10, Falcons with Vick: 13-4 (3-1 last season, 10-3 this season). With him healthy the season before he got injured, they went to the playoffs & beat the Packers @ Lambeau. When he got injured, Falcons won 2 games out of 12 games, when he came back that same season falcons won 3 out of last 4 games. With Vick the falcons as a whole & the defense play much better.
Originally posted by: Byung
Adam Vinatieri
edit: all kickers
Originally posted by: spanky
sorry steelers fans, i am gonna have to say big ben is overrated. put eli manning on the steelers and he's prolly be 10-0 too.
Originally posted by: WisMan
Originally posted by: Ne0
I don't think Vick is overrated because I've never heard anyone say that he was the best. Since Vick's injury, Falcons without Vick: 2-10, Falcons with Vick: 13-4 (3-1 last season, 10-3 this season). With him healthy the season before he got injured, they went to the playoffs & beat the Packers @ Lambeau. When he got injured, Falcons won 2 games out of 12 games, when he came back that same season falcons won 3 out of last 4 games. With Vick the falcons as a whole & the defense play much better.
That blows Urlacher's '5-4 vs 0-4' stat out of the water. :thumbsup:
Losing a playoff game in Lambeau is a sore memory though.![]()
Originally posted by: spanky
sorry steelers fans, i am gonna have to say big ben is overrated. put eli manning on the steelers and he's prolly be 10-0 too.
Originally posted by: trilks
Originally posted by: spanky
sorry steelers fans, i am gonna have to say big ben is overrated. put eli manning on the steelers and he's prolly be 10-0 too.
Well, I wouldn't go that far, but I do thing Ben Rothslais;ghas;er is overrated. Some guys at ESPN were calling him the mid-season MVP! He is a good, disciplined quarterback, and doesn't make a lot of mistakes. He's surrounded by a very good team, so that's all he needs to do. MVP? Hell, he's probably not even the MVP on his own team.
Originally posted by: jinduy
vick and culpepper
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Two words: Ben Roethlisberger.
Originally posted by: Gatos
I would have to say that the most overrated player in this league is Donavan Mcnabb. I am just not impressed with the guy.
Originally posted by: MichaelD
Originally posted by: Dudd
Originally posted by: MichaelD
That would be 99% of them. Along with the basketball and baseball players that whine that they are worth "more than $1M/per season."
I long for the day when salary caps is the norm. Of course, modern day pro-sports guys make more $$ from product endorsements than they do salary. More power to them in that arena, but IMO, salary should be capped.
The NFL has a salary cap.
I didn't know that. I'd imagine it's like $3M/year, right? :roll: It should be capped at say, $200K/year.
If the players don't like it, they can go to work in the field they "attained" their college degree in. Most likely Shop Tools or Business Economics, etc.
Let them start at the bottom at $18K/year like the rest of the college graduates.
Originally posted by: Gatos
I would have to say that the most overrated player in this league is Donavan Mcnabb. I am just not impressed with the guy.
Originally posted by: WisMan
Originally posted by: Gatos
I would have to say that the most overrated player in this league is Donavan Mcnabb. I am just not impressed with the guy.
:thumbsup: I agree.