The Most Overrated Player in the NFL?

Miramonti

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The Sporting News will have an article Saturday (not posted to site yet) about the most overrated players in the NFL. Its a great example of why the sporting news is the most irrelevant source for sports news and information. Urlacher has been to the pro bowl 4 times (voted by the players).

He's an unbelievable player with his size, speed and instincts and even tho the bears suck this year, its because of their offense and because he's missed a bunch of games this year.


Story (free reg.)


Lovie Livid Over Article Disrespecting Urlacher

Do not underrate the potential impact on the Bears of a story in The Sporting News naming Brian Urlacher the NFL's most overrated player.

If Lovie Smith's reaction Monday serves as any indication, the coach who uses the press to press his team's buttons found plenty of motivational fodder against the Houston Texans even with Urlacher likely to miss the game.

Expect Smith to somehow find a way before Sunday to convert a national magazine's disrespect for Urlacher into determination for the players in the locker room who consider the linebacker their leader.

Urlacher was scheduled to undergo an MRI Monday to reveal the extent of the damage to his left hamstring, injured in the final few minutes of Sunday's 22-3 loss to Jacksonville.

Smith stayed away from pronouncing Urlacher out for the final three weeks of the season, but the organization expects him to miss Sunday's game. The Bears want to avoid putting Urlacher on injured reserve in case their microscopically small playoff hopes are realized in the wacky NFC wild-card race.

If the news about Urlacher's injury did not ruin Smith's day, The Sporting News headline, "More Hype Than Hits," might have.

Looking more agitated at the Halas Hall lectern than at any time this season, Smith crumpled a piece of paper and ended his news conference abruptly after offering a passionate defense of Urlacher.

"They don't know what they're talking about," Smith was quoted as saying in the article, written by Dennis Dillon and due on newsstands Wednesday.

It surveyed eight NFL scouts and two television analysts whose identities were not revealed. Of the 10 votes for the NFL's most overrated player, Urlacher received three from scouts whose teams had played the Bears this season and five votes as the league's most overrated linebacker. It was a write-in ballot.

A second poll of 12 more unnamed scouts found that four scouts agreed with Urlacher's dubious designation but five did not.

The scouts cited Urlacher's reliance on defensive tackles to shield him, his tendency to stay on blocks too long and his proportion of big plays to his salary.

"His hype exceeds what he's actually worth," the story said.

Try telling that to Smith. And then duck.

"I heard the article was coming out, and I really shouldn't respond on it an awful lot," Smith said Monday, speaking slowly and calmly.

"It's like anything else that isn't true and you respond to. If you asked the players in the league, he's been to the Pro Bowl for a reason. He's a good football player, a potentially great football player, one of the all-time greats. You're asking the wrong person."

With every sentence that followed, Smith's voice carried more timbre and his disgust became harder to hide.

"I see him every day, and I know what a good linebacker looks like," Smith said. "He's a good linebacker. He'll be one of the all-time greats before all is said and done. A guy like Brian Urlacher doesn't have to defend himself on whether he's a good player or not. So whoever wrote that article doesn't know what they're talking about."

With that, Smith stormed off about five minutes earlier than he usually ends his news conferences.

While the debate over Urlacher being overrated has been ongoing for the past several years, this season was thought to have quieted the critics.

In missing four games with a pulled right hamstring and surgery on his left calf, Urlacher in many ways proved just how valuable he is to the Bears' defense. The Bears, 5-4 with Urlacher and 0-4 without him, have given up an average of 10 more points per game (27) in the four games without Urlacher.

"It does represent what the scouts said, but I'm not going to shy away from taking responsibility," Dillon said Monday night. "If somebody had asked me if Urlacher was the league's most overrated player, I'd probably say no. But that wasn't the story."

Dillon called Smith last Tuesday to inform him about the story, and general manager Jerry Angelo on Wednesday. He was denied an interview with Urlacher. "The Bears didn't try to intimidate me, but they just told me I was wrong," Dillon said.

Urlacher declined comment Monday in the locker room on the story or his health.

Asked how his leg felt, Urlacher replied, "Which one?"


:frown:
 

GagHalfrunt

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Pretty amazing pick considering the Bears are 5-4 with him in the lineup this year and 0-4 without him.
 

Goosemaster

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I guess he isn't that ovverrated now is he...according to bears fans that is;)

A touchdown IS A touchdown i nthe end:D
 

trilks

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Originally posted by: Evadman
<---- Bears fan.

Same here.

What a bunch of crap. Have they ever seen him play? Sure, he's had hamstring injuries this year, but that a load of BS. I vote for Favre.
 

Perknose

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Wow. Just wow. You know, there was a time, back in the day, before the rise of SI and then ESPN and numerous other outlets when The Sporting News was the sine qua non of national sports reporting. No longer, though, and this article proves it.
 

MichaelD

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That would be 99% of them. Along with the basketball and baseball players that whine that they are worth "more than $1M/per season."

I long for the day when salary caps is the norm. Of course, modern day pro-sports guys make more $$ from product endorsements than they do salary. More power to them in that arena, but IMO, salary should be capped.
 

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Originally posted by: trilks
Originally posted by: Evadman
<---- Bears fan.

Same here.

What a bunch of crap. Have they ever seen him play? Sure, he's had hamstring injuries this year, but that a load of BS. I vote for Favre.

Favre? He's 20 and 4 against the bears. So if winning games while your playing is an indicator of how overrated you are he cant be tha overrated.
 

mpitts

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A lot of people will say it is Vick, but that is BS.

Vick wins football games. End of story.
 

PoPPeR

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Vick is overrated in fantasy football, but it doesn't matter how you win in the NFL (but it does in college football apparently). Wins are wins.
 

Dudd

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Originally posted by: MichaelD
That would be 99% of them. Along with the basketball and baseball players that whine that they are worth "more than $1M/per season."

I long for the day when salary caps is the norm. Of course, modern day pro-sports guys make more $$ from product endorsements than they do salary. More power to them in that arena, but IMO, salary should be capped.

The NFL has a salary cap.
 

trilks

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Originally posted by: WisMan
Originally posted by: trilks
Originally posted by: Evadman
<---- Bears fan.

Same here.

What a bunch of crap. Have they ever seen him play? Sure, he's had hamstring injuries this year, but that a load of BS. I vote for Favre.

Favre? He's 20 and 4 against the bears. So if winning games while your playing is an indicator of how overrated you are he cant be tha overrated.

He's overrated this year, by far. I mean, I've watched a few games, and he has looked horrible. Of course, the announcers masturbate all over him, despite the constant bad throws and ints. Ah, Madden's Favre man-crush, its both hilarious and annoying. But mostly annoying.
 

MichaelD

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Originally posted by: Dudd
Originally posted by: MichaelD
That would be 99% of them. Along with the basketball and baseball players that whine that they are worth "more than $1M/per season."

I long for the day when salary caps is the norm. Of course, modern day pro-sports guys make more $$ from product endorsements than they do salary. More power to them in that arena, but IMO, salary should be capped.

The NFL has a salary cap.

I didn't know that. I'd imagine it's like $3M/year, right? :roll: It should be capped at say, $200K/year.

If the players don't like it, they can go to work in the field they "attained" their college degree in. Most likely Shop Tools or Business Economics, etc.

Let them start at the bottom at $18K/year like the rest of the college graduates.
 

WisMan

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Originally posted by: trilks
Originally posted by: WisMan
Originally posted by: trilks
Originally posted by: Evadman
<---- Bears fan.

Same here.

What a bunch of crap. Have they ever seen him play? Sure, he's had hamstring injuries this year, but that a load of BS. I vote for Favre.

Favre? He's 20 and 4 against the bears. So if winning games while your playing is an indicator of how overrated you are he cant be tha overrated.

He's overrated this year, by far. I mean, I've watched a few games, and he has looked horrible. Of course, the announcers masturbate all over him, despite the constant bad throws and ints. Ah, Madden's Favre man-crush, its both hilarious and annoying. But mostly annoying.


I agree he?s looked bad in a few games (especially against say Philly), but did you watch Favre in the IND vs GB game? Favre played step for step with manning the best qb in the league, and prolly would have won the game had walker not fumbled the ball late in the 4th quarter on another, what looked to be, scoring drive. He wins games its as simple as that.
 

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Originally posted by: mpitts
A lot of people will say it is Vick, but that is BS.

Vick wins football games. End of story.

Most of their wins, I really wouldn't say Vick "won" the game...I'd be quicker to say the defense has been winning games than Vick. He makes way too many bad decisions, and his unreal athleticism can't make up for all of them.
 

WisMan

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It?s only Vick?s 4th season and he?s yet to make it through a complete season healthy. Give him a chance he'll start making better choices and living up to the hype.

With that said, I still agree that he?s overrated.
 

Pacfanweb

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Originally posted by: mjquilly
Originally posted by: mpitts
A lot of people will say it is Vick, but that is BS.

Vick wins football games. End of story.

Most of their wins, I really wouldn't say Vick "won" the game...I'd be quicker to say the defense has been winning games than Vick. He makes way too many bad decisions, and his unreal athleticism can't make up for all of them.
Vick just isn't a QB. He's a runningback who throws the ball occasionally.

I personally think that Ray Lewis is overrated. Sure, he's one of the top tacklers in the NFL, but if you look at the list of players that have similar, or better stats, you hardly ever hear of them. So why all the hype for Lewis? Because he runs his mouth all the time?

 

trilks

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Originally posted by: WisMan
Originally posted by: trilks
Originally posted by: WisMan
Originally posted by: trilks
Originally posted by: Evadman
<---- Bears fan.

Same here.

What a bunch of crap. Have they ever seen him play? Sure, he's had hamstring injuries this year, but that a load of BS. I vote for Favre.

Favre? He's 20 and 4 against the bears. So if winning games while your playing is an indicator of how overrated you are he cant be tha overrated.

He's overrated this year, by far. I mean, I've watched a few games, and he has looked horrible. Of course, the announcers masturbate all over him, despite the constant bad throws and ints. Ah, Madden's Favre man-crush, its both hilarious and annoying. But mostly annoying.


I agree he?s looked bad in a few games (especially against say Philly), but did you watch Favre in the IND vs GB game? Favre played step for step with manning the best qb in the league, and prolly would have won the game had walker not fumbled the ball late in the 4th quarter on another, what looked to be, scoring drive. He wins games its as simple as that.

I did watch. Against one of the worst defenses in football. Don Makowski could throw 3 TDs against the Colts.
 

WisMan

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Originally posted by: trilks
Originally posted by: WisMan
Originally posted by: trilks
Originally posted by: WisMan
Originally posted by: trilks
Originally posted by: Evadman
<---- Bears fan.

Same here.

What a bunch of crap. Have they ever seen him play? Sure, he's had hamstring injuries this year, but that a load of BS. I vote for Favre.

Favre? He's 20 and 4 against the bears. So if winning games while your playing is an indicator of how overrated you are he cant be tha overrated.

He's overrated this year, by far. I mean, I've watched a few games, and he has looked horrible. Of course, the announcers masturbate all over him, despite the constant bad throws and ints. Ah, Madden's Favre man-crush, its both hilarious and annoying. But mostly annoying.


I agree he?s looked bad in a few games (especially against say Philly), but did you watch Favre in the IND vs GB game? Favre played step for step with manning the best qb in the league, and prolly would have won the game had walker not fumbled the ball late in the 4th quarter on another, what looked to be, scoring drive. He wins games its as simple as that.

I did watch. Against one of the worst defenses in football. Don Makowski could throw 3 TDs against the Colts.


Yeah, but Don Makowski was the man! ;)
 

waggy

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heh sure urlacher is overrated. he has only been to the pro-bowl what? EVERY YEAR he has played? the bears are O-4 without him? yeah sounds overrated to me.


Granted this year he has not put up the numbers he had previous. not just from the injury but from the fact he does not have a good line in front of him. When the bears had tayler and washington up front that allowed urlacher to go from side line to side line and thats when he really shined. also oddly that was when the bears did good.
 

Whisper

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Vick definitely isn't overrated, he just hasn't reached his potential yet. This year he's just struggling to find a balance between passing and running. It's pretty tough to choose one or the other when you're: a) one of (if not the) fastest people in the NFL, and b) owner of the strongest arm in the league. His athletic ability is unbelievable; his decision making skills will catch up to it with time.

As far as salary caps for professional sports: I don't know whether or not I'm in favor of them, but if the fans and sponsors are willing to pay enough to give players $3M/year, why should the players have to settle for less? That's their market value, and I don't see anything wrong with them getting it.