The Law and building the "wall"

[MrSquished]

Are you claiming that he uses no American made products ? That he hires no Americans? Or that he doesn't use as many as you think he should?

I was pretty specific in my posts. Why play dumb now?

 

[imported_tajmahal]

are you claiming he didn't say he'd get mexico to pay for the wall?

He said it and if you read the article it points out how it can be achieved. I personally hope he includes other countries in his plan to fund the "wall".

 

[Victorian Gray]

He said it and if you read the article it points out how it can be achieved. I personally hope he includes other countries in his plan to fund the "wall".

Maybe Putin will kick in a ruble or two.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

I was pretty specific in my posts. Why play dumb now?

You didn't list America in your little list of countries, i thought that maybe you didn't know.

 

[theeedude]

Trump's Labor secretary nominee prefers immigrant labor just happy to have a job to Americans who feel entitled to a nice job and the American dream just because they were born here. And rightly so.

 

[JSt0rm]

Again I agree and i hope that prosecution of those illegal practices increases during a Trump administration. Including prosecuting businesses that knowingly hire illegal aliens for work.

If you set up the correct system they will only be knowingly hiring illegals in 99% of the cases. OR we can spend billions on a dumb wall.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

If you set up the correct system they will only be knowingly hiring illegals in 99% of the cases. OR we can spend billions on a dumb wall.

If it's funded by other countries, but the jobs go to Americans, why would you care? There is also a huge black/grey market available for labor, illegal goods and services that wouldn't be covered in your 99% number.

 

[MrSquished]

You didn't list America in your little list of countries, i thought that maybe you didn't know.

Trump makes SOME of his suits in the USA. Also his new Make America Great Again hats and buttons. That's it. The VAST majority of his products are made overseas. He uses Chinese STEEL and ALUMINUM in his most recent buildings. His resort in Florida hires FOREIGN workers routinely. Among the American workers there.

The fact is he talks AMERICA AMERICA AMERICA first, but then doesn't walk the walk. But yet you don't acknowledge it and then idiotically are fervent he is gonna make sure American steel gets used in the construction of the wall. THere is no previous behaviour to suggest that is the case.

You are just deflecting anyways. It's pathetic and you don't have a brain.

In regards to taxes, Trump has railed against those paying little in taxes, whether poor or wealthy - but yet he does so himself and now that he's been called out on it, it's smart. What a hypocritical douchebag

http://time.com/money/4516670/donald-trump-not-paying-taxes-criticism/

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Trump makes SOME of his suits in the USA. Also his new Make America Great Again hats and buttons. That's it. The VAST majority of his products are made overseas. He uses Chinese STEEL and ALUMINUM in his most recent buildings. His resort in Florida hires FOREIGN workers routinely. Among the American workers there.

The fact is he talks AMERICA AMERICA AMERICA first, but then doesn't walk the walk. But yet you don't acknowledge it and then idiotically are fervent he is gonna make sure American steel gets used in the construction of the wall. THere is no previous behaviour to suggest that is the case.

You are just deflecting anyways. It's pathetic and you don't have a brain.

In regards to taxes, Trump has railed against those paying little in taxes, whether poor or wealthy - but yet he does so himself and now that he's been called out on it, it's smart. What a hypocritical douchebag

http://time.com/money/4516670/donald-trump-not-paying-taxes-criticism/

aww damn, and i thought you were really beginning to like me.

 

[JSt0rm]

If it's funded by other countries, but the jobs go to Americans, why would you care? There is also a huge black/grey market available for labor, illegal goods and services that wouldn't be covered in your 99% number.

and those would be felonies. Id say 4th degree? No small matter in the eyes of the court.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

He said it and if you read the article it points out how it can be achieved. I personally hope he includes other countries in his plan to fund the "wall".

sorry, just going by what drumpf said, over and over, and over and over and over and over, and over and over... or was he just speaking in 'euphemisms' again.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

and those would be felonies. Id say 4th degree? No small matter in the eyes of the court.

So you'd make mowing someones yard and not filing the proper tax documents a 4th degree felony? I'm not being a smart ass, this would probably be the level you'd have to drop to.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

sorry, just going by what drumpf said, over and over, and over and over and over and over, and over and over... or was he just speaking in 'euphemisms' again.

Like i said, i hope he makes Mexico pay for the "wall" I'd like it more if he used money from other countries to build it. As long as it gets built and as long as he upholds other laws i'd be fine with him. You seem to act as if every politician in the world absolutely keeps their word, when in my experience some do better then others, but none do it perfectly.

 

[MrSquished]

Like i said, i hope he makes Mexico pay for the "wall" I'd like it more if he used money from other countries to build it. As long as it gets built and as long as he upholds other laws i'd be fine with him. You seem to act as if every politician in the world absolutely keeps their word, when in my experience some do better then others, but none do it perfectly.

Even while Trump manufactures most of his products overseas, uses Chinese Steel to build his buildings and takes advantage of foreign workers where he can you still believe he is America first.

That makes you a special kind of stupid. Stupid enough to believe that multiple countries are going to help build for a border wall between us and 1 other country. That's special.

Do you wear a helmet normally?

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Even while Trump manufactures most of his products overseas, uses Chinese Steel to build his buildings and takes advantage of foreign workers where he can you still believe he is America first.

That makes you a special kind of stupid. Stupid enough to believe that multiple countries are going to help build for a border wall between us and 1 other country. That's special.

Do you wear a helmet normally?

Only when it's required by law.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Like i said, i hope he makes Mexico pay for the "wall" I'd like it more if he used money from other countries to build it. As long as it gets built and as long as he upholds other laws i'd be fine with him. You seem to act as if every politician in the world absolutely keeps their word, when in my experience some do better then others, but none do it perfectly.

lol, ok, here come the excuses for drumpf not being able to keep a single campaign promise, let alone his flagship promise. how is that swamp?

 

[imported_tajmahal]

lol, ok, here come the excuses for drumpf not being able to keep a single campaign promise, let alone his flagship promise. how is that swamp?

You mean the campaign promise that the Washington Post referred to about "Now Americans will say Merry Christmas again" Yeah, I already dealt with that one.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

You mean the campaign promise that the Washington Post referred to about "Now Americans will say Merry Christmas again" Yeah, I already dealt with that one.

yes, that is the one, or the swamp or the wall or... go troll outside little boy.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

yes, that is the one, or the swamp or the wall or... go troll outside little boy.

Dude, you're in my thread.

 

[raildogg]

This wall and everything around it is much more important symbolically than the actual thing. When people are supporting such things, it speaks volumes; it doesn't matter if it's built it or not. The fact that people are cheering a conman to build this wall is telling enough. The fact that people chose such a divisive man speaks clearly enough.

You have a corrupt society electing corrupt leaders. Things like walls are secondary.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

This wall and everything around it is much more important symbolically than the actual thing. When people are supporting such things, it speaks volumes; it doesn't matter if it's built it or not. The fact that people are cheering a conman to build this wall is telling enough. The fact that people chose such a divisive man speaks clearly enough.

You have a corrupt society electing corrupt leaders. Things like walls are secondary.

Is your society any better ?

 

[raildogg]

Is your society any better ?

What does that have to do with anything?

Just an empty question or is there something behind it?

 

[Black Octagon]

This wall and everything around it is much more important symbolically than the actual thing. When people are supporting such things, it speaks volumes; it doesn't matter if it's built it or not. The fact that people are cheering a conman to build this wall is telling enough. The fact that people chose such a divisive man speaks clearly enough..

As many a political commentator likes to say, voting for Trump was seen as a way of rejecting establishment politics. I say he'd go much further at actually living up to that image if he'd actually follow through on his campaign promises. Otherwise he's just another phony like all the establishment politicians he supposedly derides.


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[JSt0rm]

rr

So you'd make mowing someones yard and not filing the proper tax documents a 4th degree felony? I'm not being a smart ass, this would probably be the level you'd have to drop to.

No im saying if you are about to spend 20-60 billion on a wall cut off the demand instead. As long as the demand remains they will still come. Watch what happens.

Would you risk a 4th degree felony to get your grass cut? No. demand gone.

 

[boomerang]

The old war on drugs eh? You guys are feeling emboldened? Tromping out that simple minded shit.

War on drugs? No, I'm referencing CDC numbers for 2015 showing that Opioid deaths exceeded firearm deaths in 2015. I'm referencing the effect that Heroin addiction has had in Vermont. I'm referencing DEA numbers from 2013 showing that drug-related deaths far exceeded firearm-related deaths. I could go on but it would be a waste of my time, wouldn't it? A waste of my time because you like things just the way they are. You like it when illegals that have been deported multiple times return to sanctuary cities and then murder a citizen or citizens of the country. You turn a blind eye to the myriad of problems an open border causes for out nation and its citizens. The cost, the heartbreak, the unsustainable burden on our legal system and our prisons. The effect drug addiction has on families and children.

But you know what? What you want no longer matters. Your side lost and the change train is rolling down the tracks and picking up speed.