The Law and building the "wall"

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Lifer
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I love how fiscal conservatives want to spend billions and billions building this wall when all you would need to do is make it a felony to hire an illegal.
And the drugs coming over the border? Cartel members? Them boys ain't looking for work.
 

MrSquished

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Except President-elect Trump supports Buy American and Hire American, maybe that's why they're trying to pass this on Obama's watch.
You know it's never too late to jump on the Trump train.

Yes hire American and use American. That's why he hires foreign workers, builds his buildings with Chinese steel and aluminum, and manufacturers his products in China. Yes we know. You believe!

But anyway, if a bill got to Trump about building a wall and does not include a clause that mandated the use of domestically produced steel the best he could do is threaten to veto it. My wager is that he would just sign it anyway.
 

MrSquished

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Is it China or Taiwan? There is a difference you know.

What's the difference? THEY AREN'T AMERICA. Trump has his products made in at least 12 countries for sure: "China, the Netherlands, Mexico, India, Turkey, Slovenia, Honduras, Germany, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Vietnam and South Korea"

The fact is Trump says he is all about American made, blah blah. But all his consumer products are made overseas, he builds with Chinese metals, and he hires foreign guest workers at places like his resort in Florida.

Can you explain why he says one thing but does another and is not leading by example?
 
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What's the difference? THEY AREN'T AMERICA. Trump has his products made in at least 12 countries for sure: "China, the Netherlands, Mexico, India, Turkey, Slovenia, Honduras, Germany, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Vietnam and South Korea"

The fact is Trump says he is all about American made, blah blah. But all his consumer products are made overseas, he builds with Chinese metals, and he hires foreign guest workers at places like his resort in Florida.

Can you explain why he says one thing but does another and is not leading by example?
that makes him smart
 

Jhhnn

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Nov 11, 1999
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Illegals living here have children here. Those children when they grow up can legally vote as they are US citizens. Hence, over time more illegals = more democrat votes. Is this really too complicated for you?

Like Democrats plan 20 years ahead...
 
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What's the difference? THEY AREN'T AMERICA. Trump has his products made in at least 12 countries for sure: "China, the Netherlands, Mexico, India, Turkey, Slovenia, Honduras, Germany, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Vietnam and South Korea"

The fact is Trump says he is all about American made, blah blah. But all his consumer products are made overseas, he builds with Chinese metals, and he hires foreign guest workers at places like his resort in Florida.

Can you explain why he says one thing but does another and is not leading by example?
Because like everyone else he follows the law. If Congress passes a law that he can use to pay less in taxes, why would he not follow the law? It's not as if he's different from you. Do you send huge amounts of money to the Federal Government because you think it would be fair or nice?
 

MrSquished

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Because like everyone else he follows the law. If Congress passes a law that he can use to pay less in taxes, why would he not follow the law? It's not as if he's different from you. Do you send huge amounts of money to the Federal Government because you think it would be fair or nice?

You must be having an additional conversation inside your head. Nowhere were we speaking about taxes. We were talking about American Jobs and American-made products. Can you keep up? Or do you just concede.

Don't worry we can talk about the taxes thing later, but let's try to finish out this other important topic on jobs and made in the USA.
 

JSt0rm

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Good idea, but how can an everyday employer know that someone is an illegal? What if they use a false social security number or have a fake id ? Should the federal government step in and seize an illegal alien when they use illegal means to get hired?

A lot of those fake ss numbers are used by thousands of people. It wouldnt be hard to have a database of bunk numbers that would be crosschecked.
 
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You must be having an additional conversation inside your head. Nowhere were we speaking about taxes. We were talking about American Jobs and American-made products. Can you keep up? Or do you just concede.

Don't worry we can talk about the taxes thing later, but let's try to finish out this other important topic on jobs and made in the USA.
Are you claiming that he uses no American made products ? That he hires no Americans? Or that he doesn't use as many as you think he should?
 
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A lot of those fake ss numbers are used by thousands of people. It wouldnt be hard to have a database of bunk numbers that would be crosschecked.
Again I agree and i hope that prosecution of those illegal practices increases during a Trump administration. Including prosecuting businesses that knowingly hire illegal aliens for work.