The Intel Atom Thread

[Sweepr]

Intel NUC mini PCs with Braswell chips priced at $140 and up

Intel is adding a few new low-power models to its NUC line of tiny desktop computers. The new models feature 6 watt processors based on Intel Braswell architecture and price tags starting at around $140 or less for a barebones model.


The Intel NUC5CPYH features a 1.6 GHz Intel Celeron N3050 dual-core processor while the NUC5PPYH has a 1.6 GHz Intel Pentium N3700 quad-core chip. Both processors are 14nm, 64-bit chips with support for up to 8GB of RAM. They’re low power processors based on the same architecture as the latest Intel Atom chips, but they consume a bit more power and should offer better performance.

The Pentium chip has Intel HD graphics with a base clock speed of 400 MHz and burst speeds up to 700 MHz, while the Celeron model has less powerful Intel HD graphic with a clock speed of 320 MHz and burst speeds up to 600 MHz.

Intel’s NUC5CPYH mini PC should be available soon for around $140 or less, and a few stores including MacMall, ShopBLT, and PC Connection are already taking orders. MacMall is also taking orders for the NUC5PPYH for about $180.

www.fanlesstech.com/2015/05/first-look-intels-braswell-nuc.html
http://liliputing.com/2015/05/intel-nuc-mini-pcs-with-braswell-chips-priced-at-140-and-up.html

AnandTech: The ASUS Zenfone 2 Review

When I think about ASUS, the first thing that comes to mind are their PC components like motherboards, GPUs and the like. I also think of their desktop and laptop computers. Part of that is probably due to my longstanding interest in PCs and PC gaming, but even so, the idea of ASUS as a smartphone company is one that I don't think about that often. However, ASUS has been offering smartphones since the days of Windows Mobile, and they've been a very important player in the Android tablet space with their transformer tablets and both generations of the Nexus 7. With smartphone + tablet hybrids like the ASUS PadFone, it was seemingly inevitable that ASUS would become a competitor in the world of discrete Android smartphones.

I think it’s a bit unfair to say that the ZenFone is the fastest device when it only comes first in a single test, but even without considering the photo editing test it’s clear that the ZenFone 2 offers great performance. Even more amazing is that at times it can trade blows with flagship phones that cost much more than it does. Perhaps due to the fact that it's the only x86 Silvermont-based phone in our benchmarks its relative performance can bounce around versus the competition, but on average it comes rather close to delivering the kind of CPU performance we've seen from the flagship phones over the past year.

ASUS, with the help of Intel, is really pushing the limits of what a smartphone can be when it has to meet such a low price. The ZenFone 2 offers CPU performance that should probably be creating some concern at Qualcomm, Apple, and Samsung. It's very competitive with the silicon that we see in the most expensive flagship phones available, and both ASUS and Intel should be proud. The SoC's GPU performance competitive with the last generation of flagship devices. While that sounds like criticism, the ZenFone 2's GPU performance is actually well ahead of the other devices that compete with it on price. Intel also handles the throttling of their SoC very gracefully, with GPU performance dropping to a point where it can be maintained for long periods of time rather than repeatedly rising and dropping due to the governor always targeting maximum performance.

www.anandtech.com/show/9251/the-asus-zenfone-2-review

Atom x7 Z8700 ''Cherry Trail'' Gaming Videos - Part 3

- Runescape
- Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3
- Diablo III: Reaper of Souls
- Path of Exile
- FIFA 14
- Roboto
- Guild Wars 2
- Dota 2
- League of Legends

 

[Roland00Address]

Warning a rant is below

What is the point of an intel dual core braswell nuc at 1.6 turbos to 2.16 ghz for $140 when that $140 price does not include OS, Ram, or Hard Drive?

You can get an asus zenfone 2 that while is 22nm but it turbos to 1.83 ghz but has full cellular and screen. I understand the utility of HTPC vs Phone but that hard ware should not cost that much considering what it is.

What makes it cost that much? Is it because its 4x4 instead of the zenfones 6x3, is it because it has more usb ports and full sized SD? Because you can put an 8gb dimn in there? Because it uses actual SATA instead of usb and emmc?

I feel cheated, like you are trying to swindle me selling me hardware that is comparable to the 22nm stuff that goes for quad core $79 HP Stream 1gb IPS, and various $99 z3735 2gb, ips tablets. Yes this is newertech with better graphics, but all I see is you thinking you can upsell me for you put the same car under a different "car division" in your company and then double the asking price for the same guts.

If it was a fully functional computer you have an argument but this is a barebones system which does not even include a keyboard. But this is a paperweight until you invest 50% more of the cost and are about at $200. The cheapest sata ssd on newegg that is new is $34, the cheapest m2 is $42, you still need ram and accessories.

And to top it all of its not even passively cooled, you have a noisy spinning fan in there.

Why is this worth so much again?

 

[mikk]

http://benchlife.info/goldmont-replace-airmont-and-remain-14nm-for-apollo-lake-in-2016-05312015/

Something about Apollo Lake, successor of Braswell next year.

 

[Sweepr]

Interesting.

Apollo Lake (2016) - Braswell Successor
Brand new low-power x86 Goldmont cores (higher IPC)
Gen 9 Graphics - 4K support
14nm process
USB Type-C and eMMC 5.0 support
Additional USB ports
Upgraded display / I/O section
FCBVGA 1296 type 3
Mass production @ June 2016
Formal announcement (launch?) @ IDF San Francisco 2016

Perhaps the tablet parts could arrive a bit sooner, just in time for the x86 Surface 4.

 

[cbn]

Interesting.

Apollo Lake (2016) - Braswell Successor
Brand new low-power x86 Goldmont cores (higher IPC)
Gen 9 Graphics - 4K support
14nm process
USB Type-C and EMMC 5.0 support
Additional USB ports
Upgraded display / I/O section
Mass production @ June 2016
Formal announcement (launch?) @ IDF San Francisco 2016

Perhaps the tablet parts could arrive a bit sooner, just in time for the x86 Surface 4.

Glad to see the atom SoC finally get native eMMC 5.0 support.

 

[CHADBOGA]

Interesting.

Apollo Lake (2016) - Braswell Successor
Brand new low-power x86 Goldmont cores (higher IPC)
Gen 9 Graphics - 4K support
14nm process
USB Type-C and eMMC 5.0 support
Additional USB ports
Upgraded display / I/O section
FCBVGA 1296 type 3
Mass production @ June 2016
Formal announcement (launch?) @ IDF San Francisco 2016

Perhaps the tablet parts could arrive a bit sooner, just in time for the x86 Surface 4.

Is this Broxton?

 

[Arachnotronic]

Is this Broxton?

Apollo Lake : Broxton :: Braswell : Cherry Trail

 

[Sweepr]

Lots of Cherry Trail, Braswell & Moorefield goodness from Computex.

Finally a Cherry Trail successor to the popular Atom Z3740-based ASUS T100:

Asus Transformer Book T100HA: 2-in-1 Windows tablet with Intel Atom x5, USB Type-C, 14-hours battery life

Among an avalanche of products revealed today at Computex Taipei, Asus has announced the Transformer Book T100HA, the follow-up to its inexpensive T100 Windows 8 2-in-1 device. The new model will come preloaded with Windows 10 and feature the smaller, reversible USB Type-C port seen in Apple’s 12-inch MacBook. The 8.45mm-thick, 580g tablet chassis is available in four colors, and the screen is 10.1 inches at 1280 x 800.

Asus hasn't said how much the T100HA will cost, but it wouldn't be surprising to see it fall in the same range as its $349 predecessor. Its low resolution might be a deal-breaker for some, although the screen is otherwise decent, and the build is very much on the plasticky side. Still, the keyboard doesn't feel too bad to type on, and the trackpad is better than seen on many other models in this class.

Asus is claiming 14 hours of battery life for the T100HA, which runs on quad-core Intel Atom Cherry Trail X5 processors and 4GB of RAM. The company hasn't set a release date beyond a vague third-quarter launch period, but you can count on seeing more thin, USB Type-C-equipped Windows 10 devices after Microsoft releases its latest OS this summer.

4GB base is great (up from 2GB), and the new Atom x5 should be quite a bit faster than the Atom Z3740, especially when it comes to graphics.

www.theverge.com/2015/6/1/8695983/asus-transformer-book-t100ha-announced-specs-release-date

ECS showing off Mini PC lines at Computex

The Liva X2 (X Squared) appears similar to the current Liva X with the addition of some tasty upgrades, notably the Braswell SoC in place of the Bay Trail SoC. All three USB ports are now of the 3.0 flavor and the WiFi module has been upgraded to the AC standard. VR-Zone reviewed the Liva X PC a couple of weeks ago and found it to be an excellent device with capabilities and a feature list that shone at $200 USD. If the price stays similar, then the new X2 is clearly even better.

http://vr-zone.com/articles/ecs-showing-off-mini-pc-lines-at-computex/92691.html

Asus launches Intel-based ZenPad line of tablets with 7 to 10 inch screens

Just as we heard last week, ASUS is now launching a new family of stylish Android tablets dubbed ZenPads, which will replace the MeMO Pad series. These will come in 7-inch, 8-inch and 10.1-inch flavors with cellular variants; but it's the light yet powerful ZenPad S 8.0 that's caught our attention so far. For one, this 6.6mm-thick, 298g-heavy metallic slate comes with a sharp 2,048 x 1,536 (324 ppi) IPS display which has a 4:3 aspect ratio, so it's going head to head with the iPad Mini here. And with Intel's 64-bit Atom Z3580 chip plus 4GB of RAM, you needn't worry about its performance. Better yet, you get front-facing stereo speakers that are enhanced by DTS for some virtual surround sound action. If you're into handwriting or drawing on tablets, you can buy the optional Z Stylus which supports up to 1,024 levels of pressure sensitivity.

Additionally, there's a regular ZenPad 8.0 -- powered by Intel's Atom x3 -- that features a similar design to the ZenPad S 8.0. While the technical details are scarce at the moment, we do know that it'll have a range of interesting and good-looking accessories: the Zen Clutch and Zen Case for protection, the bizarre Audio Cover for adding 5.1 surround sound, and the Power Case that extends the battery life to up to 15 hours. This tablet family also includes the low-end 7.0 model with a 1,024 x 600 screen resolution, and a larger 10.1 model with an optional keyboard (likely a Bluetooth dock); but again, we'll have to get back to you on the detailed specs as well as pricing and availability for them all.

www.engadget.com/2015/06/01/asus-zenpad-s-8-0

Awesome Galaxy Tab S x86 competitor by ASUS. It's actually even thinner than the rumoured Galaxy Tab S 2.

Acer Aspire Switch 10 2-in-1 tablet with Atom x5 coming this year

The Acer Aspire Switch 10 is a Windows tablet with a 10 inch display and a detachable keyboard dock which lets you use the machine like a laptop. Acer first launched the Switch 10 in 2014, but this summer the company plans to launch a few new models this summer, including a more affordable model with a starting price of $279, and a $399 model with a full HD display and a glass cover.

That higher-priced model will be available soon with an Intel Atom Bay Trail processor, but later this year Acer plans to introduce a version with a newer Intel Atom Cherry Trail chip. Acer isn’t saying much about the Cherry Trail version, but the company says it will sport an Intel Atom x5 processor.

http://liliputing.com/2015/05/acer-aspire-switch-10-2-in-1-tablet-with-atom-x5-coming-this-year.html

Acer GT-810 tablet with Intel Atom x7 coming soon?

The tablets with Intel Atom Cherry Trail chips are starting to arrive. The Microsoft Surface 3 was the first tablet to ship with an Intel Atom X7 processor. But it won’t be the only model available for long. Lenovo has just unveiled a new ThinkPad 10 tablet which features a choice of an Atom X5 or X7 processor. And it looks like Acer may have a Cherry Trail tablet of its own on the way.

An unannounced device called the Acer GT-810 showed up on the GFXBench website recently. It’s said to have an 8.5 inch, 1920 x 1200 pixel display, an Intel Atom X7 processor, 2GB of RAM, and 32GB of storage. The Acer tablet may also be one of the first devices with a Cherry Trail chip to ship with Android rather than Windows: according to the benchmarking website, the GT-810 runs Google Android 5.1.

http://juggly.cn/archives/149348.html
http://liliputing.com/2015/05/acer-gt-810-tablet-with-intel-atom-x7-coming-soon.html

Lenovo Launches ThinkPad 10 Tablet Refresh And Lenovo Cast Accessory

The second generation ThinkPad 10 replaces the first gen model which was launched about a year ago. It keeps a lot of what made the ThinkPad 10 a decent tablet, including the 10.1” 1920x1200 16:10 display. It continues to offer 2 or 4 GB of LPDDR3 memory, as well as both 64 and 128 GB eMMC storage options. The big change is to the processor, with the ThinkPad 10 now being powered by the 14 nm Intel Cherry Trail Atom, specifically the x5-Z8500 or x7-Z8700 models. It is also rated at the same ten hours of battery life with the integrated 32 Wh battery, and includes the ThinkPad Pen Pro technology with WRITEit. WRITEit is a Lenovo software add-on which allows the pen to be used for almost any input.

Since this tablet is aimed at the enterprise, it also includes features that you will be hard pressed to find in consumer level tablets including optional dTPM encryption, a fingerprint reader, or a smart card reader. Lenovo will even do laser etching and asset tagging of this model to assist companies with inventory control.

As an enterprise tablet, it also has a full assortment of accessories including a folio keyboard, ultrabook keyboard, QuickShot cover, tablet dock, protector case, and more. The ThinkPad 10 will ship with Windows 10 pre-installed, and the launch timeframe for the tablet is August 2015, which fits into the summer time frame that Microsoft has promised for Windows 10. The price at launch is $549 for the base model.

www.anandtech.com/show/9288/lenovo-launches-thinkpad-10-tablet-refresh-and-lenovo-cast-accessory

 

[Sweepr]

Some good news for those who want better CPU performance from the Atom line, Broxton (powered by next-generation Goldmont x86 CPU cores) will be available in actual products as soon as Q1-2016.

Next-generation Intel Atom ''Broxton'' arrives in Q1 2016

In early 2016, Intel will launch “Fall City 2″ models, which replace the current Compute Stick models (which are, not surprisingly, code-named Falls City).

These sticks will feature Intel Atom chips based on the upcoming “Broxton” architecture. In other words, don’t hold your breath waiting for an Intel Compute Stick with a Cherry Trail chip. It’s not coming. Instead Intel is skipping Cherry Trail and designing its next-gen Compute Sticks on the CPUs that will launch after Cherry Trail.

That doesn’t mean we won’t see Cherry Trail-powered PC Sticks. There’s nothing stopping other computer makers from building them. But they don’t seem to be part of Intel’s roadmap.

Falls City 2 should offer better performance than today’s Compute Sticks thanks to their next-gen processors. They’ll also feature USB 3.0 ports for faster data transfers, MHL support for connecting to a display without a separate power cable, and these models will support 4K displays thanks to improved graphics.

Intel will offer Linux and Windows versions of the Falls City 2 sticks. The Linux model still has just 1GB of RAM and 8GB of eMMC storage, but the Windows model will ship with 2GB of RAM and 64GB of eMMC storage.

http://liliputing.com/2015/06/intel...4gb-model-in-2015-broxton-models-in-2016.html
www.fanlesstech.com

On the CPU side I hope we get at least a 15-20% IPC bump without clock regressions.
Considering Skylake GT2 will feature 24 EUs (Gen 9) I think the top-end Broxton SKU could pack 16-24 EUs (Gen 9, probably not less/more than that).
What do you guys expect?

Acer Predator Android gaming tablet powered by Intel Atom x7

Acer has removed some of the mystery surrounding its first gaming tablet, the Predator 8.

It will run Android, and have Intel’s Atom X7 processor, code-named Cherry Trail. More details of the tablet were shared by an Acer executive during the Computex keynote of Kirk Skaugen, Intel senior vice president and general manager of the PC client group.
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The Predator 8 is the first Android tablet with the Atom X7 chip to be announced, although a number of Cherry Trail tablets running Microsoft’s Windows OS have been announced—including Microsoft’s Surface 3, which started shipping last month.

www.pcworld.com/article/2930112/acer-sheds-more-light-on-mysterious-predator-8-gaming-tablet.html

Asus EeeBook E202: Budget notebook with USB Type C, Intel Braswell

Asus will update its EeeBook line of affordable, portable notebooks this summer with the launch of the Asus EeeBook E202.

It’s an 11.6 inch laptop with a fanless design, a 6 watt Intel Pentium N3700 quad-core processor based on Intel’s “Braswell” architecture, and a design that measures about 0.84 inches thick and weighs about 2.65 pounds.

The new laptop will likely replace the Asus EeeBook X205TA, which is a $200 laptop with an Intel Atom Z3735F processor and surprisingly decent performance for a machine in that price range.

The folks at Mobile Geeks spotted the new Asus laptop on the show floor at Computex in Taiwan this week. The specs for a demo unit paint a picture of a new portable notebook with some nice upgrades, including:

A USB-C
1 full-sized USB 3.0 port and 1 full-sized USB 2.0 port
802.11ac WiFi
4GB of RAM
500GB hard drive

http://liliputing.com/2015/06/asus-eeebook-e202-budget-notebook-with-usb-type-c-intel-braswell.html

Asus Pen Stick is a Windows 10, Cherry Trail PC-on-a-stick

Intel may not be planning to offer a Compute Stick with an Intel Atom Cherry Trail processor. But it looks like Asus is.

Asus is showing off a tiny computer called the Asus Pen Stick this week at Computex. It’s a PC-on-a-stick featuring a Cherry Trail CPU, 2GB of RAM, 32GB of storage, and Windows 10 software. Like other PC sticks, the Asus Pen Stick is a compact computer that’s small enough to hold in one hand or slide into your pocket. In fact, it looks a bit like a large USB flash drive, but there’s an HDMI connector where you’d normally expect to see a USB connector. There’s a power button on the other side of the device.

http://liliputing.com/2015/06/asus-pen-stick-is-a-windows-10-cherry-trail-pc-on-a-stick.html

Dell outfits new laptops with Intel Braswell, AMD Carrizo chips

The Inspiron 11 3000 is a convertible notebook with a touchscreen display and a 360 degree hinge. Fold back the screen until it’s back to back with the keyboard, and the notebook becomes a (kind of chunky) tablet.

Dell introduced this product line last year, and I reviewed a model with an Intel Pentium Bay Trail processor and a $450 price tag and found it to be a decent value… as long as you didn’t expect too much from a budget 2-in-1 notebook.

Now Dell is dropping the price and using a next-gen processor based on Intel’s Braswell architecture which should offer better performance and improved efficiency. It’s too early to say whether that means the new model will get longer battery life: Bay Trail chips were already pretty energy efficient.

Dell says the new Braswell-powered Inspiron 11 3000 Series models will be available when Windows 10 launches on July 29th.

http://liliputing.com/2015/06/dell-outfits-new-laptops-with-intel-braswell-amd-carrizo-chips.html

Asus Transformer Book Flip TP200: Braswell-powered convertible

Asus has introduced a new 11.6 inch convertible notebook with a touchscreen display that bends over backward to let you use the computer as a tablet. It’s called the Asus Transformer Book Flip TP200, and it joins larger products in the Flip family including the 13.3 inch Flip TP300LA and 15.6 inch Flip TP500LA. Mobile Geeks spotted the new model on display at Computex in Taiwan this week.

The laptop features an 11.6 inch, 1366 x 768 pixel glossy IPS touchscreen display, an Intel Pentium N3700 Braswell processor, and a relatively compact design: it measures about 0.73 inches thick and weighs about 2.65 pounds.

It also has a fanless design, thanks in part to the low-power 6 watt processor which doesn’t generate much heat. The Transformer Book Flip TP200 will be available with up to 4GB of RAM and 128GB of solid state storage, but entry-level models will have just 2GB and 32GB, respectively.

http://liliputing.com/2015/06/asus-transformer-book-flip-tp200-braswell-powered-convertible.html

HP Pavilion 10 X2 gets Cherry Trail and keyboard update for 2015

The HP Pavilion 10 X2 tablet / keyboard case hasn’t been out for long but it has been a popular device in the UMPCPortal database. Maybe it was because of the very light total weight and good price. The updated HP Pavilion 10 X2 has a new hard-docking keyboard and has been updated with an Intel Atom Cherry Trail processing platform and USB-C. Like all the new tablets we’re seeing at Computex this is running Windows 10. It’s looking like a great ultra-mobile PC solution.

HP Pavilion 10 X2 2015 specifications:

Windows 10 OS
Detachable keyboard design.
CPU: Intel Cherry Trail. (details not confirmed but we suspect Atom X5 only.)
RAM: 2GB
Storage: 32Gb eMMC
Screen: 10.1-inch 1280 x 800 (resolution not confirmed)
Ports: Full size USB connector and USB type-C, micro HDMI and micro SD card slot. Charging is through the USB-C port.
Battery life: 12 hours (manufacturers claim)
Weight: 1.76 pounds (800 grams)

www.umpcportal.com/2015/06/46273

Closer look at Acer Aspire Switch 10 V Cherry Trail 2-in-1 tablet

As expected, Acer is showing off a new version of its Switch 10 tablet which features an Intel Atom Cherry Trail processor.Mobile Geeks got a little hands-on time with the new tablet at the Computex show in Taiwan this week.

The new Acer Aspire Switch 10 V is a 2-in-1 Windows tablet with a detachable keyboard base. It looks a lot like earlier Switch 10 models, but the new version has a few major improvements, including:

10.1 inch, 1920 x 1200 pixel display
Intel Atom X5-8300 Cherry Trail processor
A USB 3.0 port on the keyboard dock

The demo unit spotted by Mobile Geeks features 2GB of RAM and 32GB of storage, but it’s possible Acer will offer models with more memory and storage for higher prices.

http://liliputing.com/2015/06/closer-look-at-acer-aspire-switch-10-v-cherry-trail-2-in-1-tablet.html

 

[witeken]

Is getting about time. Cherry Trail was supposed to launch 6-9 months ago. Good to see Broxton will be here in Q1 instead of later.

 

[Sweepr]

Is getting about time. Cherry Trail was supposed to launch 6-9 months ago. Good to see Broxton will be here in Q1 instead of later.

Indeed. They need a powerful yet small and power efficient Goldmont 14nm core that doesn't close the performance gap with the more expensive Core line too much but still delivers better ST performance than Silvermont/Airmont. It will be interesting to see how they balance things out.

Q1 is closer to some Cortex A72 products than I was expecting.

 

[Sweepr]

Apollo Lake-I Detailed

As a comparison, here's Bay Trail, Cherry Trail (Atom X5 & X7) and Braswell:

http://benchlife.info/apollo-lake-soc-structure-show-us-more-detail-with-goldmont-06222015

4x next-generation 14nm Goldmont CPU cores (x86)
18 EUs Gen 9LP Graphics
DDR3L (including ECC) and LPDDR4 support (up to 3200MT/s)
MMC 5.0, SDXC, 2x SATA 6.0Gbps and x4 PCIe
Expected debut: May 2016

This one probably replaces the Bay Trail-I embedded SoC (which didn't get a Braswell refresh), not sure if other variants like Apollo Lake-M/D (?) will be the same.
I'm glad Intel is still commited to low-power x86 cores and I hope Goldmont improves single-core performance.

 

[Arachnotronic]

This BenchLife site is on a roll...

 

[mikk]

18 EUs is an odd number.

 

[Arachnotronic]

128 bit memory interface (4x32 bit LPDDR4) @ 3200MT/s means that this thing is going to be able to deliver a serious amount of bandwidth :thumbsup:

 

[Sweepr]

18 EUs is an odd number.

Different EUs per subslice count (6)? That would fit with Skylake GT2's 24 EUs too.
Or (less likely) it's a cut down version of the top desktop/notebook Apollo Lake SKU.

128 bit memory interface (4x32 bit LPDDR4) @ 3200MT/s means that this thing is going to be able to deliver a serious amount of bandwidth

Definitely not BW limited.
Broxton-based Surface 4 should further enhance Surface 3/x86 tablet gaming potential.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Definitely not BW limited.
Broxton-based Surface 4 should further enhance Surface 3's gaming potential.

Here's a fun thought: Broxton will have greater memory bandwidth than a GT2 Skylake-ULT.

It is very unlike Intel to give any advantage to a "cheap Atom," but it might show that they have finally accepted that they can't artificially hobble Atom to make Core look better.

 

[mikk]

I don't think so. The reason is more likely this:

LPDDR4 launches with an I/O data rate of 3200 MT/s and a target speed of 4266 MT/s

No HDMI 2.0 is a drawback by next year unfortunately.

 

[krumme]

The success of this is entirely dependant on the next windows platform.
I can see a profitable business here if the b2b solutions and cost reductions from consolidation mobile and desktop platforms into one os with x86 as driver.
That could be the driver for atom.
Because on b2c market mature and depreciated a72 on 28nm will have been there for aprox 11 month already and at spring 14nm ff high perf cores will flood the market for highend - id not half a year prior. Its a damn tough market to earn money. Tough like the tune of 4b - and its not like bt is not a fine cpu already. Its on the business side not tech that decides success.

 

[krumme]

Intel needs to get into gear now and make sure it sells solutions instead of cpu. Its a known issue but if they want to sell tiny cpu they better show the benefit in tco.

 

[Roland00Address]

Intel should focus on the best performance per die area no matter their competition from ARM.

Remember it is always far easier to cripple fast chips, than to make crappy chips look better against the competition unless you just want to give the chips away.

These chips are multiplier locked, there is no overclocking them. You can always artificially limit the clock speed, the gpu speed, mess with the voltages, promote battery life, etc.

 

[Nothingness]

A Braswell chip tested on a French site: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&u=http://www.hardware.fr/articles/imprimer/936/

Rather disappointing.

 

[dark zero]

Seems that Intel is killing off the tiny Core arch due Core M increasing performance.. Maybe their.death would come sooner than expected.

 

[krumme]

Seems that Intel is killing off the tiny Core arch due Core M increasing performance.. Maybe their.death would come sooner than expected.

Intel and Amd is imo going to terminate small cores. Might see some relatively slimming of bigger cores with even more focus on perf/w to take some of the place.
Makes no sense to compete against a72 on dirt cheap 28nm in an arm ecosystem and qcom and samsung custom cores. The definition of red ocean. Like 4b red. 4b is a lot guys i tell you

Add nobody but the likes of asus and qnap wants to pay a bit over bare cost for atom. There is no market even for good products.
Doesnt work for intel cost structure.

 

[mikk]

Goldmont cores are coming from Intel and these are very small surely. Although Intel need a big improvement for their Atom CPU cores, at least 50% I think. This CPU stagnation after 1,5 years is very poor. Because of the big GPU increase this is also very bad for games, they seem to run into a CPU limit often. Not only for newer games. Old games don't need a fast GPU but they need a decent Singlecore performance. This is a bigger problem for Cherry Trail now.