The Intel Atom Thread

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  1. Sweepr

    Sweepr Diamond Member

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    http://www.anandtech.com/show/7314/intel-baytrail-preview-intel-atom-z3770-tested/3

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  3. Jaydip

    Jaydip Diamond Member

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    The cpu is undeniably very fast, but it seems gpu is Intel's Achilles heel again :)
     
  4. Sweepr

    Sweepr Diamond Member

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    It may not be a Tegra 4/S800 killer on the GPU side but 14.5K on Ice Storm is a very respectable score, I was expecting something like 11.8-12K. And those CPU performance numbers are incredible.
     
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    Yeah the CPU numbers are downright incredible for that power. Remember that Jaguar has PCI-E etc so power draw was always going to be much better on Silvermont, but the performance is something else.
     
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    monstercameron Diamond Member

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    dont jump the gun, we havent seen any power numbers yet.
     
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    Awesome.

    Granted there are still a few remaining questions that are touched on in the conclusion - how Baytrail does in video decode efficiency and what idle power is like - but the rest is certainly delivering what Intel promised. GPU performance is its only 'weak' point right now, and even there it's going to be more than adequate for its intended markets. (Recall that developers have to ensure that their games play smoothly on a wide range of devices - if they target the top end only they severely limit their pool of potential buyers.)

    Regardless, the CPU performance is simply awesome. It's outperforming the A4-5000 in multi-threaded tasks while using under 2.5W. Good luck to Qualcomm (much less AMD) on matching that any time soon.
     
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    Crazy performance CPU wise @ that power envelope.


    You know they will pour money into GPU R&D + solving any Dalvik inefficiences over time.

    If that's the ARM lovers best argument - I'd also say Francois was right.



    ....now to see if Intel can manage to sway the ecosystem of the OEMs to join up as well ;)
    (I have doubts they'll automaticly "run" into Intel's "ARM"'s :D)
     
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    Hardly! It almost ties the Ipad 4.
     
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    Most people against Intel expect them to total dominate - or they're a failure ;)


    Something i think given Intel's position we should perhaps almost demand..... we want intel to be a engineering company... not a marketing profit company ala samsung :p
     
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    Spot on, can't expect less from Intel :)
     
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    First Bay Trail-T based devices announced:

     
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    Yeah it is very fast but going forward I believe the tablet/smartphone space to be gpu dominated.
     
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    No wonder everyone wants Bay Trail tablets ready for the holidays.

    ARM really need to up their game if they want to stay in these segments. And Jaguar got humiliated.

    Just a year later and 14nm Airmont hits.

    Who said x86 couldnt compete with ARM again?
     
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    First strike to ARM by Intel looks to be rather serious.
     
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    :rolleyes:

    Humiliated would be making your own tablets like Nvidia are forced into doing. Being a bit-player would be having a tablet chip that can't get in an iPad, Nexus or Galaxy. Guess what Intel is?
     
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    with those results i dont think amd or even arm has to worry. the tegra 4/s800 beat it and the a4-5000 beats it. It performs on the level of the s600[with higher cpu perf].
     
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    Your anti-Intel bitterness really shines. o_O

    Thread crapping will not be tolerated
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    We haven't seen any FINAL power numbers but we do got an idea of the power numbers here for anand did some tests with his preview






    During the cinebench singlethread test where the scores are
    atom z3770 scored .40
    amd a4-5000 scored .39
    pentium 2020m scored 1.00 (this is a 35w part)
    i7-3517u scored 1.24 (this is a 17w part)
    During the cinebench multithreaded test where the
    atom z3770 scored 1.48
    amd a4-5000 scored 1.50
    pentium 2020m scored 1.96 (this is a 35w part)
    i7-3517u scored 2.76 (this is a 17w part)
    atom z3770 scored 5747
    amd a4-5000 scored 4509
    pentium 2020m scored 5434 (this is a 35w part)
    i5-3317u scored 6598 (this is a 17w part, note anand switched to the core i5 number for he didn't have test results for the i7 3517u precompiled)
    So in all three tests the soc power consumption was less than 3 watts. He didn't do any tests with power consumption while gaming. Nor did he do a platform power consumption (with the 2560x1440 tablet) so we can't venture into battery life numbers yet. That said those numbers are easily power consumption where it can fit in a tablet without a fan without overheating.
     
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    Every CPU advantage there might have been for AMD and ARM in those areas are completely gone.

    So you are now saying, buy AMD or ARM for the GPU. Something as we see in the higher end quickly erodes.

    And remember, this is prebeta software. Performance can easily improve, specially graphics.
     
  21. piesquared

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    So decent CPU performance in some tests as expected combined with embarrassing GPU performance. They probably needed to castrate GPU to get decent power numbers.
    Am I missing something or is this SoC missing SATA and PCIe?
     
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    Bay Trail die
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    The Z3000 range have SATA and PCI-E not functional. I think the desktop ranges,which have a much higher rated TDP,do.
     
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    Really? Who was it that was talking about humiliation?

    Where is the 60%-70% lead over S800 and Tegra 4? Even with a very friendly selection of browser and integer benchmarks it's far from that. Notice there is no geekbench on show?

    Graphically it's middle ranked now with far stronger GPU's coming from the ARM players soon.

    Sure it's very fast, and power looks competitive, but nobody was expecting anything else. I'd rather be Qualcomm with all the design wins frankly. :)
     
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    Anandtech said the same about the previous ultra mobile chips from Intel and they all sucked.

    Seriously, they told everyone about how good the Tegra 4 is and it is a major flop.

    They would even give the Pontiac Aztec the most beautiful car of all time award.
     
  26. Roland00Address

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    Yes this soc is missing sata and pci e. The tablet version will not have those two features for they destroy idle power consumption, the laptop and desktop versions will have sata and pci e.