- Jun 1, 2017
The report about that leak is already 9 months old.
$300 dollar seems pretty good for Tremont, SATA SSD and 12gb of ram.
Ian apparently has gotten his hands on a Chinese Macbook Pro ripoff with a Tremont Celeron. Might get a review of it eventually.
That is correct, but mostly due to the Richland APU having a large frecuency advantage, i dont think it is below on IPC. You still gona have problems with both on Windows 10, as they are both slow. Im still handling some A6-7480 here, they are just slow, every time you load a web page it goes to 100%.It's true that an Atom Goldmont Plus is WEAKER than an Richland APU in single thread/IPC?
I ask because maybe I'll buy a very cheap new mobo plus APU to light browsing soon, and I had thought about getting an A4-6300 APU because it's cheaply available, but there's this alternative, and Atom J4005 that may be better because of the more robust media engine.
Thought about this but if I go this way the price difference will be 3.5 fold minimum.Try to get a 3000G/200GE with the cheapest AM4 board you can find, the diference is like night and day.
AV1 Decode is Gracemont Lakes only.It lacks AV1 decode, but this is expected, Tremont IGP should be the one having it right?
If possible, you can just downclock Tremont to get Goldmont Plus-like performance at lower power. If that floats your boat. Not sure how many Jasper Lake systems would really permit that though.Then there is not really a point upgrading to a Jasper or Elkhart unless you really need the extra cpu perf for something. But thats not really the reason to get an Atom in the first place.
Gracemont is 20-40% faster than Tremont at the same clock. Since Tremont made similar gains you could make the same argument about Gracemont. So they could bring it to the 6W and 10W platform - it'll just limit MT performance compared to the desktop implementation and likely end up with quad cores or something.Gracemont on the other hand it is a massive upgrade, but its likely to use more power as well. I would be very suprised if they can keep the power use this low and at the same time bring all those upgrades to the CPU and IGP.
somehow Intel Atom boards cant support more than 2 GPU properly, ive tested with a Asus J1800I-C, Asus J4005I-C, Biostar J4105 NHU all 3 have the same issue, for 2 gpus it seems OK, but at the 3rd gpu the boot loop does not work properly anymore and there is no way to fix it. That was tested with 1 to 4 PCI-E multiplier.I bet if someone came with a board that uses these chips but have 3-4 PCIe x1 slots crypto miners would buy them. At idle you can go from having 40W to something like 10W even with a powerful PSU. Also the boards are pretty damn cheap.
I thought of doing this at one point with just one GPU. The idea of being super efficient made sense to me. Also with one GPU the system power use takes a fair portion while these ITX boards absolutely minimize that.
I read a bit into this and even if you use a multiplier it still uses lanes. The J4105 for example only has 6 lanes. Maybe that's the reason? The AM1 boards have 16 lanes.somehow Intel Atom boards cant support more than 2 GPU properly, ive tested with a Asus J1800I-C, Asus J4005I-C, Biostar J4105 NHU all 3 have the same issue, for 2 gpus it seems OK, but at the 3rd gpu the boot loop does not work properly anymore and there is no way to fix it. That was tested with 1 to 4 PCI-E multiplier.
nah, the ones used for mining are a x1 PCIe switch card to 4 USB3 ports wired to use PCI-E risers.I read a bit into this and even if you use a multiplier it still uses lanes. The J4105 for example only has 6 lanes. Maybe that's the reason? The AM1 boards have 16 lanes.
6 seems enough but if it's being used by peripherals and I/O it would quickly be used. In desktops the chipset provides lanes in addition to the CPU while for these boards 6 is all you got since it's an SoC.
I'd play with a Goldmont Plus board. The delays made Tremont pretty much this year, which means Gracemont will be a year from now. The core itself is available much early as we can see from Alderlake. The chip however, is different unfortunately.Would be fun to play around with the N6005 version, but to be honest it feels like Tremont is already old news at this point...
The main benefit of NUC is that they bring more of the cutting edge to small computers. I realize that this doesn't belong in the Atom thread, but the NUC 12 Serpent Canyon tempts me. 2.5 Gb ethernet and 6E Wi-fi are perfect for my HTPC replacement. Fast movie streaming (and even faster copying to/from my main PC). The only ASRock mITX for Alder Lake has 1 Gb ethernet, AC wifi, and only a third of the M.2 ports. Heck, at first glance it didn't even have a header for an SD slot for showing photos on the TV (true a USB adapter can be added, but there goes the nice looks and some of the smaller form factor). https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/H610M-ITXac/index.asp And that is if ASRock even sells it in the US, as I've been stymied several times trying to buy ASRock mITX products that aren't sold here.Not a big fan of NUC. It's essentially a laptop or a prebuilt system which has to be thrown away. Would like to see Asrock mITX boards again.
Socketed doesn't concern me. Intel supports one additional year at the best anyways.Also to address your concern the NUC 12 Dragon Canyon is socketed.
Not a big fan of NUC. It's essentially a laptop or a prebuilt system which has to be thrown away. Would like to see Asrock mITX boards again.
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