The Intel Atom Thread

[mikk]

Celeron N5100 https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/4277542
Celeron N4500 https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/4240214

This is Jasper Lake I believe.

N5000 https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/3183632

Google Android 9 N5000 for comparison.

 

[Thala]

Celeron N5100 https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/4277542
Celeron N4500 https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/4240214

This is Jasper Lake I believe.

N5000 https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/3183632

Google Android 9 N5000 for comparison.

Yes, N5100 and N4500 are Jasper Lake 4 cores and 2 cores respectively. N5000 is Gemini Lake. With N6000 @ 3.1GHz we might see a 700 score in Geekbench single.
Overall very underwhelming scores. One has to wonder why Intel is going to release such crap in 2020 - they should have directly skipped to Gracemont after the Lakefield debacle.

 

[Greyguy1948]

Have you seen this Tremont Block Diagram:
Tremont on Wikichip

10 pipes on EU is not bad!
More than many older Core. The first Atom have 4 I believe.

 

[Greyguy1948]

Have you ever seen any Atom beating any Core i on any program?
I tested this c++ code:
long_prtimes.cpp from rosettacode.org

It goes up to 64000 but you can go to 128000 or 256000 with small changes.
My Goldmont Plus at 2.7 GHz is faster than Core i7-8700 at 4.3 GHz (64bit)

For Raspberry Pi 4 64bit is around 3 times faster than 32bit...

 

[insertcarehere]

Yes, N5100 and N4500 are Jasper Lake 4 cores and 2 cores respectively. N5000 is Gemini Lake. With N6000 @ 3.1GHz we might see a 700 score in Geekbench single.
Overall very underwhelming scores. One has to wonder why Intel is going to release such crap in 2020 - they should have directly skipped to Gracemont after the Lakefield debacle.

Notwithstanding platform differences, those Jasper Lake GB5 ST scores are fairly similar to S765G (2.4ghz A76), which is...not great for a 2021 product.

 

[mikk]

Intel Pentium Silver N6000

FUJITSU CLIENT COMPUTING LIMITED 0000000000 - Geekbench Browser

Benchmark results for a FUJITSU CLIENT COMPUTING LIMITED 0000000000 with an Intel Pentium Silver N6000 processor.

browser.geekbench.com

~55% faster ST compared to N5000 when I exclude ther Crypto score. MT score isn't that good but too early to say.

 

[IntelUser2000]

Intel Pentium Silver N6000

FUJITSU CLIENT COMPUTING LIMITED 0000000000 - Geekbench Browser

Benchmark results for a FUJITSU CLIENT COMPUTING LIMITED 0000000000 with an Intel Pentium Silver N6000 processor.

browser.geekbench.com

~55% faster ST compared to N5000 when I exclude ther Crypto score. MT score isn't that good but too early to say.

Nice find.

The N5030 doesn't do that well either in MT, despite being a Geminilake-Refresh. Has to be some thermal/power limit.

I can see Linux reaching 800.

Overall the MT scores are close to Lakefield. ST performance is surprisingly close, making Jasper Lake a far better product since it'll be aimed at devices costing $500 or less.

If Gracemont Pentium Silver(Gold?) gets on the 10nm ESF process I can see some nice things happening.

 

[IntelUser2000]

FanlessTech noted the existence of Jasper Lake Plus on the pipeline.

Interesting that they want to use the latest cores in the mainstream products, but the low end PCs are slightly behind. Alderlake should come with Gracemont in about the same time as Jasper Lake Plus.

 

[Bouowmx]

What kind of I/O capabilities to expect on Jasper Lake SOC?
Mostly out of an interest of x86 SBC.

 

[Roland00Address]

Wait it is named Jasper Lake? My brain feels a little nervous due to comics, the story of Jim Jaspers / Jasper's Warp by the great Alan Moore.

 

[Bouowmx]

Japser Lake launched: https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/codename/128823/jasper-lake.html
4 cores, up to 3.3 GHz (Pentium N6000/N6005)
I'm reading two different values for cache: 1.5 and 4 MB.
PCIE 3 x8

 

[Roland00Address]

Ian is posting this on the internet

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1348745507598979072

Pictures of an Alder Lake desktop.


...

If I recall (Ian can't talk about it right now, but it is something Anandtech the main website will be talking about later) ... Alder Lake is a big little thing with Intel cores like roughly 8 big cores and 8 small cores targeting some of the higher range tdps like up to 125w but most parts will have a lower tdp than that. That said there will also be other lake processors that will be big little at lower tdps meant for tablets and laptops but they will have different names

 

[Panino Manino]

LOLROFMAO

But I guess they're comparing this with old AMD CPUs without "Pro" features?

 

[Dayman1225]

LOLROFMAO

But I guess they're comparing this with old AMD CPUs without "Pro" features?

They used a 4750U PRO (AMDs business line). Though not sure why this is in the Atom thread ?

 

[Panino Manino]

They used a 4750U PRO (AMDs business line). Though not sure why this is in the Atom thread ?

Those where Pentium and Celeron, aren't these Atom?

 

[Hitman928]

Those where Pentium and Celeron, aren't these Atom?

The laptop being shown is Tigerlake based I believe. Tigerlake is the only architecture that has CET (the feature they are showing off). CET is a neat feature but it does require OS (maybe app?) support so it won't be an immediate feature enable. We'll see in the end how secure it really is as independent 'researchers' start messing with it.

 

[jpiniero]

I have to wonder if you will actually see any Jasper Lake Chromebooks. Intel has a hard enough time getting OEMs to use Goldmont Plus, nearly every Intel Chromebook out there is using Atoms that are older than that.

 

[Brunnis]

It seems Jasper Lake products are still incoming:

• Asrock fanless Jasper Lake mini-ITX boards coming Q4 2021: FanlessTech: About Jasper Lake motherboards
• ASUS PN41 fanless "NUC" with Celeron N5100 and Pentium N6000: ASUS PN41: Retailer leaks a new mini-PC with Intel Jasper Lake processors - NotebookCheck.net News

The PN41 is not exactly news (leaked in February), but I saw at least one retailer listing the Celeron version as coming in the beginning of May.

 

[mikk]

-del- wrong thread

 

[Shivansps]

I have to wonder if you will actually see any Jasper Lake Chromebooks. Intel has a hard enough time getting OEMs to use Goldmont Plus, nearly every Intel Chromebook out there is using Atoms that are older than that.

There is even a point in using newer Atoms for a Chromebook? im petty sure they would be still be using Bay Trail if they had LPDDR4 support, the power usage is crazy low and the perf is OK. Asus even used EMBEDDED versions of the older Atoms, like the Asus Chromebook 14 with the E8000...

 

[jpiniero]

There is even a point in using newer Atoms for a Chromebook? im petty sure they would be still be using Bay Trail if they had LPDDR4 support, the power usage is crazy low and the perf is OK. Asus even used EMBEDDED versions of the older Atoms, like the Asus Chromebook 14 with the E8000...

Using the embedded version might cost more than using a more recent Atom because they remove all of the discounts. Most of the other chips will get discontinued so you have to move to something newer eventually. But we are talking years. 14 nm is not going anywhere so 14 nm Atoms are going to be around for a long time but maybe eventually it'll be at least Goldmont Plus.

 

[Brunnis]

And now first rumors of the Jasper Lake based Atlas Canyon NUC arrive: FanlessTech: EXCLUSIVE: Jasper Lake NUC



It's said to arrive in Q1 2022. I'm guessing 10nm delays plus Covid-19 has caused this product to slip in a pretty major way. Probably more of a 2020 product from the beginning. Still nice that it's coming, though. I had thought Intel was skipping the low-powered NUCs this generation.

 

[Kosusko]

Intel Grand Ridge: Atom CPUs with DDR5 and PCI-Express 4.0 on leaked foil
source: https://www.pcgameshardware.de/CPU-CPU-154106/News/Intel-Grand-Ridge-Atom-DDR5-PCIe-4-in-7-nm-Leak-1355857/

As you've been told many times already, you must post personal commentary along with links
in the CPU sub-forum.

AT Mod Usandthem

 

[you2]

Bit confused - but it sounds like they are announcing jasper lake nuc to be released after the release of the successor grand ridge ?

 

[Exist50]

Bit confused - but it sounds like they are announcing jasper lake nuc to be released after the release of the successor grand ridge ?

Grand Ridge looks like a networking chip. Presumably a successor to Snow Ridge. Completely different market from Jasper Lake.