The Cognitive Decline Disinformation Campaign Being Launched Against Biden

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fskimospy

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It's pretty clear that Joe is slipping. That's not a condemnation, just a part of getting old, he has good days and bad days.

It’s not pretty clear at all, conservatives have just decided this is a useful attack to use.

The question really becomes, is senile Joe a better choice than Trump? I don't know the answer to that. It's like choosing between athletes foot and jock itch.
If by this point you’re unable to figure out if Biden would be better than Trump it’s hopeless for you.

Of course he would be better. For starters, he’s not a lifelong criminal like Trump. Doesn’t that seem better?
 

brycejones

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Yeah, of course I'm going to do that. You should note data doesn't prove anything on this forum. To ask for sources/citations, then have that disregarded is comical.

[[What is your data, what is your data?! Well, your data doesn't jell with my beliefs so it is untrue!!!]]
Here is the thing your sources need to actually say what you claim they do. All to often people will do a quick google search and throw some links up that more often than not don’t say what the poster is actually claiming they do. So yes the poster gets called out for that.
Your unwillingness to source any of your claims says you know you are full of shit but don’t care.
 
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sandorski

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It’s not pretty clear at all, conservatives have just decided this is a useful attack to use.


If by this point you’re unable to figure out if Biden would be better than Trump it’s hopeless for you.

Of course he would be better. For starters, he’s not a lifelong criminal like Trump. Doesn’t that seem better?

The Data exists, it is clear. You can argue to the extent of it, but not to the existence of it.
 

NostaSeronx

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Your unwillingness to source any of your claims says you know you are full of shit but don’t care.
Nope.

My unwillingness is that you'll say the same thing even if I post a several sources from different points of views. So, if more work leads to me being full of shit or less work leads to me being full of shit. I'm going to take the path that requires less hardship.

If we go back to 1973 to now. Listing every bad shit(Antithesis to democratic party's message of today) Biden did and then how his compatriots and enemies commented about him. This list of history of multiple credited views even if factual is full shit. So, I'm completely unwilling to do sources/citations or anything of such if it is always full of shit.
 
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UberNeuman

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It’s not pretty clear at all, conservatives have just decided this is a useful attack to use.


If by this point you’re unable to figure out if Biden would be better than Trump it’s hopeless for you.

Of course he would be better. For starters, he’s not a lifelong criminal like Trump. Doesn’t that seem better?

The Biden/Trump debate should settle any misgivings.
 

fskimospy

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Nope.

My unwillingness is that you'll say the same thing even if I post a several sources from different points of views. So, if more work leads to me being full of shit or less work leads to me being full of shit. I'm going to take the path that requires less hardship.

If we go back to 1973 to now. Listing every bad shit(Antithesis to democratic party's message of today) Biden did and then how his compatriots and enemies commented about him. This list of history of multiple credited views even if factual is full shit. So, I'm completely unwilling to do sources/citations or anything of such if it is always full of shit.
Seems like you’re expending a lot more effort defending your refusal to back up your claims than it would just take to back up your claims.
 

Vic

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It's pretty clear that Joe is slipping. That's not a condemnation, just a part of getting old, he has good days and bad days. The question really becomes, is senile Joe a better choice than Trump? I don't know the answer to that. It's like choosing between athletes foot and jock itch.

Trump's irresponsibility, lack of credibility, and absence of leadership just walked America unknowingly off the cliff of one of the biggest market sell-offs in history, and has America in a crisis over a pandemic that we could have and should have started preparing for 6 weeks ago (for which he openly refuses any responsibility, despite that literally being his job), and you still can't fucking decide?

The real question here is what is it going to take for Trumpers to realize how unfit Trump really is? When are you going to stop being slaves who give your leaders unwavering support regardless of how much they fuck you over, and start being like free people who insist on holding their leaders responsible?
 

NostaSeronx

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Seems like you’re expending a lot more effort defending your refusal to back up your claims than it would just take to back up your claims.
I don't waste effort on people who don't need or want that effort.

Nosta: I'll post all the sources/citations in one long line.
*posts*
That one poster: Snort! Like I'll believe any of that! It simply goes against my world view!

In P&N, you must back up your claims with links, and non-BS ones at that, especially when challenged.

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Greenman

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It’s not pretty clear at all, conservatives have just decided this is a useful attack to use.


If by this point you’re unable to figure out if Biden would be better than Trump it’s hopeless for you.

Of course he would be better. For starters, he’s not a lifelong criminal like Trump. Doesn’t that seem better?
Joe is 77? I know more than my fair share of people in that age group, and every single one of them has cognitive issues. They range from minor to complete dementia. Why pretend that it's something that doesn't happen to everyone? Why is Joe so special that he's untouched by advanced age? It's absurd. That may or may not be an issue for his presidency, as most presidential decisions aren't spur of the moment, but he clearly sometimes loses his train of thought.
As for me being "hopeless", that's a condemnation of me for not agreeing with you, and has absolutely zero value. You believe that you have all the answers, I've never claimed that status.
 
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ch33zw1z

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Joe is 77? I know more than my fair share of people in that age group, and every single one of them has cognitive issues. They range from minor to complete dementia. Why pretend that it's something that doesn't happen to everyone? Why is Joe so special that he's untouched by advanced age? It's absurd. That may or may not be an issue for his presidency, as most presidential decisions aren't spur of the moment, but he clearly sometimes loses his train of thought.
As for me being "hopeless", that's a condemnation of me for not agreeing with you, and has absolutely zero value. You believe that you have all the answers, I've never claimed that status.

All politicans are lifelong criminals, so who cares!
 
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DisarmedDespot

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Seems like you’re expending a lot more effort defending your refusal to back up your claims than it would just take to back up your claims.
This is the same guy who insisted AMD was gonna release new Bulldozer chips after Ryzen launched. His attachment to reality is pretty shaky.
 
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brycejones

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I don't waste effort on people who don't need or want that effort.

Nosta: I'll post all the sources/citations in one long line.
*posts*
That one poster: Snort! Like I'll believe any of that! It simply goes against my world view!

I doubt you understand ironic this post is.
 

ivwshane

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It’s not pretty clear at all, conservatives have just decided this is a useful attack to use.


If by this point you’re unable to figure out if Biden would be better than Trump it’s hopeless for you.

Of course he would be better. For starters, he’s not a lifelong criminal like Trump. Doesn’t that seem better?


Biden is also capable of having a competent administration around him so even if Biden was senile, he’d still be miles ahead of trump.
 
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Fenixgoon

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Biden is also capable of having a competent administration around him so even if Biden was senile, he’d still be miles ahead of trump.

he'd also see the value of an agency/division dedicated to examining and preparing for outbreaks such as coronavirus, having been VP through H1N1
 

ondma

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Biden is also capable of having a competent administration around him so even if Biden was senile, he’d still be miles ahead of trump.
That is not the problem. The problem is getting elected.
I admit I have criticized Biden a lot in these forums. That is not personal. I think he is a decent person, and I like his policies overall.
But I think he is a terrible, terrible nominee, both because of his apparent failing faculties and the Barisma dealings (even if he did nothing wrong, Trump and his enablers will have a field day with it, just like with Benghazi and the e-mails for Hillary.)

And yes, I know the republicans will find something to attack no matter who is the nominee, but do we have to give them two issues on a silver platter?
 

Vic

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That is not the problem. The problem is getting elected.
I admit I have criticized Biden a lot in these forums. That is not personal. I think he is a decent person, and I like his policies overall.
But I think he is a terrible, terrible nominee, both because of his apparent failing faculties and the Barisma dealings (even if he did nothing wrong, Trump and his enablers will have a field day with it, just like with Benghazi and the e-mails for Hillary.)

And yes, I know the republicans will find something to attack no matter who is the nominee, but do we have to give them two issues on a silver platter?

As opposed to handing them the Socialism boogeyman that they've been indoctrinating their supporters against for years?
 

fskimospy

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As opposed to handing them the Socialism boogeyman that they've been indoctrinating their supporters against for years?
It’s strange that people don’t realize the whole Burisma thing is happening precisely because they are struggling to find things to attack Biden on.

Trump was so desperate for some dirt on Biden he got himself impeached over it.
 
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Muse

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Yeah, of course I'm going to do that. You should note data doesn't prove anything on this forum. To ask for sources/citations, then have that disregarded is comical.

[[What is your data, what is your data?! Well, your data doesn't jell with my beliefs so it is untrue!!!]]
No goddamn excuse to spout off without any corroboration, just your fool feels.
 

Muse

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It's pretty clear that Joe is slipping. That's not a condemnation, just a part of getting old, he has good days and bad days. The question really becomes, is senile Joe a better choice than Trump? I don't know the answer to that. It's like choosing between athletes foot and jock itch.
You think Joe's more senile than Trump? Not even close. That's laughable idea.
 

Greenman

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You think Joe's more senile than Trump? Not even close. That's laughable idea.
I have no idea which is more impaired, and the reality is that you don't either. Everyone has memory issues as they age, along with some cognitive problems.
 

Jhhnn

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It's pretty clear that Joe is slipping. That's not a condemnation, just a part of getting old, he has good days and bad days. The question really becomes, is senile Joe a better choice than Trump? I don't know the answer to that. It's like choosing between athletes foot and jock itch.

Trump really messed with your mind, huh? Oh, yeh. Oh, Baby! It's what great con artists do.
 

Muse

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I have no idea which is more impaired, and the reality is that you don't either. Everyone has memory issues as they age, along with some cognitive problems.
Biden's speech evening of Super Tuesday is sufficient/ample proof he's got 100x more brains than Trump.
 
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Jhhnn

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Buncha maroons in here. It's not just about the leader but about the entourage, who he brings with him. It's also about management style, about despotic manipulation of sycophants & toadies or a "it takes a village" style of leadership. Pick one.