The Cesspool of Humanity

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Puhleeze stop it with the sanctimonius tripe, Vito. You have contributed to the partisan garbage in at least one thread I can think of, fanning the flames for those who seemingly go rabid when they smell the potential of fresh republican meat. You have no room to speak and your little sermons in here do not hide that fact under scrutiny So dismount your high horse and take a seat with the rest that you've already joined, please.

What specific thread are you talking about? Why are you being so hostile and insulting - am I cramping your style?

I'm not saying people can't express their opinions; just that I don't see this as a time for partisan invective (that's the kind of stuff you just engaged in, if you're looking for an illustration).

You know exactly what thread I'm speaking of, DV. I already pointed it out to you in a PM. So don't play coy with me.

If this is not the time for partisan invective, then you should have slammed the OP, since it's absolutely full of such invective. But you didn't. Instead you made apologies for his behavior and that demonstrates your own partisanship in this matter rather clearly. So cut the crap.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: yllus

I'm going to regretfully have to side with TLC on this one, Don. While I agree with what you said in general about this event displaying many people's true character, your ideas on this thread itself are triple-A bullsh!t.

I guess I don't really care what people here think of me. I've been here for a long time. I've known Kirk for a long time. I wouldn't have phrased this thread quite the way he did, and I would certainly have chosen different people as examples if I were inclined to do that, but he is essentially a good and decent man, and I share his frustration with the way this crisis has brought out the worst in so many people.

So, if that makes me full of triple-A BS, so be it. I've been yelled at by generals - I can deal with being disliked and/or disrespected by strangers on an online bulletin board.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

You know exactly what thread I'm speaking of, DV. I already pointed it out to you in a PM. So don't play coy with me.

If this is not the time for partisan invective, then you should have slammed the OP, since it's absolutely full of such invective. But you didn't. Instead you made apologies for his behavior and that demonstrates your own partisanship in this matter rather clearly. So cut the crap.

I'm not being coy. I deleted your PM and have no idea what you're talking about. The sole thread in which I've posted anything remotely partisan was the Brown one, and I honestly don't see that as a partisan issue (which is why I sent a nastygram to both my state's Democrat and Republican senators).

As I have already said, I wouldn't have phrased Kirk's post the way he did, but I consider him a decent man and I will stand by him, even if it perpetuates your already negative opinion of me.

 

[yllus]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: yllus

I'm going to regretfully have to side with TLC on this one, Don. While I agree with what you said in general about this event displaying many people's true character, your ideas on this thread itself are triple-A bullsh!t.

I guess I don't really care what people here think of me. I've been here for a long time. I've known Kirk for a long time. I wouldn't have phrased this thread quite the way he did, and I would certainly have chosen different people as examples if I were inclined to do that, but he is essentially a good and decent man, and I share his frustration with the way this crisis has brought out the worst in so many people.

So, if that makes me full of triple-A BS, so be it. I've been yelled at by generals - I can deal with being disliked and/or disrespected by strangers on an online bulletin board.

That's my personal assessment of Kirk as well, which is why I'm rather shocked at his post. I think I'm going to just leave it at that, because I've posted far too much in this horrible thread and it's actually getting depressing to think of continuing. I'll probably vacation from P&N until at least Tuesday, perhaps things will be calmer then.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
RawStory. The SpewsMax of the left.

mm....yeah....right.

Let's see...they quote directly from The American Spectator. The bastards.



:roll:

And surely they wouldn't be doing so because RawStory is such an unbiased site, just like the NY Times, right? :roll:

Look at the liberal FEMA meterologist/faux surfer apologize for the bitter, partisan crap contained in that American Spectator article.

What a charlatan you are, TLC.

FEMA? LOL. No, I worked at GWC (Global Weather Central), at least until I was relocated to Germany to work with the Army.

Partisan crap? Sure. Absolutely. It's coming from both sides. Shall I post some of the extreme garbage coming from the left as well? There's some really, really embarassing stuff, if you look around just a little. I could start more than a few threads just from the idiotic posts at DU and KOS alone.

But I bet you knew that already and are more than willing to admit it because you're not a partisan hack at all. :roll:

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

You know exactly what thread I'm speaking of, DV. I already pointed it out to you in a PM. So don't play coy with me.

If this is not the time for partisan invective, then you should have slammed the OP, since it's absolutely full of such invective. But you didn't. Instead you made apologies for his behavior and that demonstrates your own partisanship in this matter rather clearly. So cut the crap.

I'm not being coy. I deleted your PM and have no idea what you're talking about. The sole thread in which I've posted anything remotely partisan was the Brown one, and I honestly don't see that as a partisan issue (which is why I sent a nastygram to both my state's Democrat and Republican senators).

As I have already said, I wouldn't have phrased Kirk's post the way he did, but I consider him a decent man and I will stand by him, even if it perpetuates your already negative opinion of me.

BS DV. You responded to my PM already and you know exactly what thread I'm talking about. Shall I post the PMs in here and let others decide?

Don't play this stupid game. You're allowing your own partisan ideology to color everything your saying in here, while pretending to be chiding both sides. Ultimately though, you're not chiding both sides, you're pointing your finger at only one. Stop playing this disingenuous game.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

BS DV. You responded to my PM already and you know exactly what thread I'm talking about. Shall I post the PMs in here and let others decide?

Don't play this stupid game. You're allowing your own partisan ideology to color everything your saying in here, while pretending to be chiding both sides. Ultimately though, you're not chiding both sides, you're pointing your finger at only one. Stop playing this disingenuous game.

Sure, post the PMs. For that matter, I give carte blanche to anyone I've ever PMed to repost them. I don't even remember them - I was pretty wiped out from a long ride when we exchanged them, and I immediately deleted them, because I get attacked by you enough in public that I can't be bothered to deal with you in private.

Perhaps you'd be better off just linking to whatever thread you contend is full of my partisan hatred, or just post my comments - I'm happy to defend them if you think I said something wicked.

I'm not sure why you're being so hostile. Why are you so fixated on me, and on this issue?

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

BS DV. You responded to my PM already and you know exactly what thread I'm talking about. Shall I post the PMs in here and let others decide?

Don't play this stupid game. You're allowing your own partisan ideology to color everything your saying in here, while pretending to be chiding both sides. Ultimately though, you're not chiding both sides, you're pointing your finger at only one. Stop playing this disingenuous game.

Sure, post the PMs. For that matter, I give carte blanche to anyone I've ever PMed to repost them. I don't even remember them - I was pretty wiped out from a long ride when we exchanged them, and I immediately deleted them, because I get attacked by you enough in public that I can't be bothered to deal with you in private.

I'm not sure why you're being so hostile. Why are you so fixated on me, and on this issue?

Ok, DonVito... here are some PM's you've sent me...

"DH. You the MAN! Great analysis. Spot on! Wow!"

"Unbelievably brilliant deductions!"

"You're a SAINT among men."


Disclaimer: My tongue is firmly in cheek.

 

[1EZduzit]

Because liberals are evil. What else do you want to know?

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Ok, DonVito... here are some PM's you've sent me...

"DH. You the MAN! Great analysis. Spot on! Wow!"

"Unbelievably brilliant deductions!"

"You're a SAINT among men."


Disclaimer: My tongue is firmly in cheek.

Shhhhhhhhhhhh . . . you're exposing my evil partisan agenda. Ixnay on the ersonalpay essagesmay!

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Ok, DonVito... here are some PM's you've sent me...

"DH. You the MAN! Great analysis. Spot on! Wow!"

"Unbelievably brilliant deductions!"

"You're a SAINT among men."


Disclaimer: My tongue is firmly in cheek.

Shhhhhhhhhhhh . . . you're exposing my evil partisan agenda. Ixnay on the ersonalpay essagesmay!

Dude, seriously, you just made Diet Coke come out of my nose.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

BS DV. You responded to my PM already and you know exactly what thread I'm talking about. Shall I post the PMs in here and let others decide?

Don't play this stupid game. You're allowing your own partisan ideology to color everything your saying in here, while pretending to be chiding both sides. Ultimately though, you're not chiding both sides, you're pointing your finger at only one. Stop playing this disingenuous game.

Sure, post the PMs. For that matter, I give carte blanche to anyone I've ever PMed to repost them. I don't even remember them - I was pretty wiped out from a long ride when we exchanged them, and I immediately deleted them, because I get attacked by you enough in public that I can't be bothered to deal with you in private.

Perhaps you'd be better off just linking to whatever thread you contend is full of my partisan hatred, or just post my comments - I'm happy to defend them if you think I said something wicked.

I'm not sure why you're being so hostile. Why are you so fixated on me, and on this issue?

I didn't claim anything about "partisan hatred." Way to twist and spin. But you began your little sermons pontificating that people shouldn't use the situation in NOLA to make their partisan political points. And when you replied with your sermons, it was generally always to someone who was your ideological opposite. Somehow you didn't see fit to dress down any of your ideological peers. And I plainly pointed that out to you in a PM, after you posted one of your sermons to a reply of mine:

Here you go DV. If you want to lecture people about using this situation as a partisan sopabox, help yourself. Take care of your ideological equivalents who actually might listen to you, and you won't hear me making this a partisan issue:

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=52&threadid=1680331&enterthread=y

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=52&threadid=1678374&enterthread=y

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=52&threadid=1680297&enterthread=y

I also noticed that while promising not to be partisan about this, you have become so in the last thread posted above, so I question your sincerity in this whole thing.

You wrote back t me:

Just to be clear, I never said I wouldn't be partisan - just that I resent unnecessary partisan sniping. FWIW, I think both parties have much to answer for here. In particular, Mike Brown seems to me to bear a sizable portion of the responsibility. I actually e-mailed both of my senators (one Republican, one Democrat) to express my displeasure with their approving his appointment without vetting his background.

So apparently it's up to DV in here to define what is "sniping" and what is not. But that won't stop him from his own partisan quest, as he plainly states.

If you're going to chide people for being partisan, yet still insist that you will remain partisan yourself, you don't have much of a leg to stand on.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

So apparently it's up to DV in here to define what is "sniping" and what is not. But that won't stop him from his own partisan quest, as he plainly states.

If you're going to chide people for being partisan, yet still insist that you will remain partisan yourself, you don't have much of a leg to stand on.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! So that's the expose, eh?

I have to admit I'm pleased I was this articulate when I was so far into sugar debt. I stand by everything I said, and you're going to have a hard time convincing me or anyone else that my comments in the Brown thread constitute partisan insults.

That said, I've had enough of being the guy with the whip and the chair. If people here, including you, are adamant that the best way of handling the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina is through gratuitous partisan bickering, knock yourselves out.

Nice work, Sherlock!

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

So apparently it's up to DV in here to define what is "sniping" and what is not. But that won't stop him from his own partisan quest, as he plainly states.

If you're going to chide people for being partisan, yet still insist that you will remain partisan yourself, you don't have much of a leg to stand on.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! So that's the expose, eh?

I have to admit I'm pleased I was this articulate when I was so far into sugar debt. I stand by everything I said, and you're going to have a hard time convincing me or anyone else that my comments in the Brown thread constitute partisan insults.

That said, I've had enough of being the guy with the whip and the chair. If people here, including you, are adamant that the best way of handling the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina is through gratuitous partisan bickering, knock yourselves out.

Nice work, Sherlock!

You foment the partisan bickering yourself, which you initially claimed was gauche, and try to take the high ground at the same time?

Those with any rational thinking process in here will understand precisely what I'm talking about. Of course, rational thinking is so often in short supply in P&N and so few actually demonstrate it.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

If you're going to chide people for being partisan, yet still insist that you will remain partisan yourself, you don't have much of a leg to stand on.

Pot, Kettle, Black

 

[MicroChrome]

I'm kinda pissed my name didn't make it on the list...

Oh well... I'll keep trying!

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
You foment the partisan bickering yourself, which you initially claimed was gauche, and try to take the high ground at the same time?

Those with any rational thinking process in here will understand precisely what I'm talking about. If course, rational thinking is so often in short supply in P&N and so few actually demonstrate it.

Wait - I'd like to dissect this so I understand what you're saying.

I expressed my displeasure with the fact that President Bush, and the bipartisan Congress, approved the appointment of a completely unqualified man to head FEMA, an appointment which I feel has worked to the detriment of the victims of Hurricane Katrina.

I sent an identical e-mail to my Republican and Democratic senators, expressing the same displeasure.

If this is fomenting partisan bickering, well, I'm guilty as charged.

What you will not find, at any time, is my objecting to people having opinions. What I have objected to (and continue to object to, though I will henceforth do so silently to avoid wounding the tender sensibilities of the likes of you) is unnecessary vicious partisan insults.

So, you see, there's a difference, and one I regard as obvious. You're willfully ignoring it, for reasons that I am not privy to.

I wish you well and I hope you find the satisfaction you're looking for. I remain nonplussed by the fact that you even care about my opinions, since you obviously don't like or respect me, and it's even more mysterious why you feel compelled to henpeck me like a nagging wife. Should I be flattered?

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
You foment the partisan bickering yourself, which you initially claimed was gauche, and try to take the high ground at the same time?

Those with any rational thinking process in here will understand precisely what I'm talking about. If course, rational thinking is so often in short supply in P&N and so few actually demonstrate it.

Wait - I'd like to dissect this so I understand what you're saying.

I expressed my displeasure with the fact that President Bush, and the bipartisan Congress, approved the appointment of a completely unqualified man to head FEMA, an appointment which I feel has worked to the detriment of the victims of Hurricane Katrina.

I sent an identical e-mail to my Republican and Democratic senators, expressing the same displeasure.

If this is fomenting partisan bickering, well, I'm guilty as charged.

What you will not find, at any time, is my objecting to people having opinions. What I have objected to (and continue to object to, though I will henceforth do so silently to avoid wounding the tender sensibilities of the likes of you) is unnecessary vicious partisan insults.

So, you see, there's a difference, and one I regard as obvious. You're willfully ignoring it, for reasons that I am not privy to.

I wish you well and I hope you find the satisfaction you're looking for. I remain nonplussed by the fact that you even care about my opinions, since you obviously don't like or respect me, and it's even more mysterious why you feel compelled to henpeck me like a nagging wife. Should I be flattered?

I feel compelled because you yourself feel compelled to henpeck (as you've posted your sanctimonious tripe multiple times) others for being partisan whilst doing so yourself. You act as if you're above it, but you're not. It's just that simple and all your shimmying and shaking to attempt to slough that off doesn't change that fact.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

I feel compelled because you yourself feel compelled to henpeck (as you've posted your sanctimonious tripe multiple times) others for being partisan whilst doing so yourself. You act as if you're above it, but you're not. It's just that simple and all your shimmying and shaking to attempt to slough that off doesn't change that fact.

I'm not going to continue to defend myself, because there's no convincing you of anything. For whatever reason you're unwilling to see what I consider a completely, transparently obvious fact:

Expressing an opinion in a respectful way about a nonpartisan issue != making a partisan insult.

I don't see how I can be any more clear.

I never once told anyone not to express a partisan opinion, just that the insults and nastiness were nonproductive. You appear not to agree. Fine. Be as vicious and petty as your heart tells you to be with my blessings, Sunshine.

 

[rahvin]

Originally posted by: DonVito
I don't see how I can be any more clear.

You have to include your polticial opinions right on the surface and be completely partisan. See if you try to talk about things like being not partisan he gets confused and has a difficult timing figuring out what "side" you are on. This means he has to try infer which category to put you in. See in his world you can only be on one side or the other and that "sneaky" talk about being non-partisan makes it difficult to figure out which side you are on.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: yllus

I'm going to regretfully have to side with TLC on this one, Don. While I agree with what you said in general about this event displaying many people's true character, your ideas on this thread itself are triple-A bullsh!t.

I guess I don't really care what people here think of me. I've been here for a long time. I've known Kirk for a long time. I wouldn't have phrased this thread quite the way he did, and I would certainly have chosen different people as examples if I were inclined to do that, but he is essentially a good and decent man, and I share his frustration with the way this crisis has brought out the worst in so many people.

So, if that makes me full of triple-A BS, so be it. I've been yelled at by generals - I can deal with being disliked and/or disrespected by strangers on an online bulletin board.

I don't really respond to reply to any of 'Kirk's' posts (I generally stay out of 90% of the US political threads), but I'd agree that he seems like one of the better posters on the site. :thumbsup: He seems much more rational than the crazies.

 

[BBond]

I'm one of the crazies. One of the crazies who told you the Bush tax cuts were reckless. One of the crazies who told you there was no reason to attack Iraq. One of the crazies who told you there was no WMD. One of the crazies who told you America wasn't going to be greeted with kisses and flowers. One of the crazies who told you Bush was taking America into a quagmire like Vietnam. One of the crazies who told you Rove was behind the most unbelievable intentional piece of espionage in U.S. history. One of the crazies who told you Bush was using 9/11 to destroy the Bill of Rights. One of the crazies who is telling you that the disgrace in New Orleans is just another iteration of Bush's core beliefs.

The list goes on and on and on yet some people keep defending the indefensible and calling anyone who disagrees with them crazy. Telling the truth about Bush makes you a Bush-basher. A crazy. Thus the Bushies radicalize and marginalize anyone who disagrees with them. But consider the world we now have after five years of George W. Bush and the people who are so morally bankrupt that they support and enable him.

Who's crazy?

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: DonVito

I guess I don't really care what people here think of me. I've been here for a long time. I've known Kirk for a long time. I wouldn't have phrased this thread quite the way he did, and I would certainly have chosen different people as examples if I were inclined to do that, but he is essentially a good and decent man, and I share his frustration with the way this crisis has brought out the worst in so many people.

So, if that makes me full of triple-A BS, so be it. I've been yelled at by generals - I can deal with being disliked and/or disrespected by strangers on an online bulletin board.

STFU, you just didn't like my name on the list:disgust:




Seriously though, I've been through many disaster drills and a few real disasters, they're easy as hell to pick apart after the fact. I guess for me the inportant thing is that there is an attempt to help those in need and to put forth our best effort.

Honestly I just ignore the politics of disasters, I find enough honor in the first responder types (firefighters, paramedics, flight nurses) to just ignore the politics and the management types that try to apply structure to something that vigorously defies structure.

I will be dealing with the fallout of Katrina for months at work and through volunteer efforts, guess I dodged the worst of the Dallas mess yesterday by helping at Reunion Arena instead of the convention center.

If I can manage to figure out how to delete pics from bbzzdd, I can upload a couple of pics I snapped yesterday.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: BBond
I'm one of the crazies. One of the crazies who told you the Bush tax cuts were reckless. One of the crazies who told you there was no reason to attack Iraq. One of the crazies who told you there was no WMD. One of the crazies who told you America wasn't going to be greeted with kisses and flowers. One of the crazies who told you Bush was taking America into a quagmire like Vietnam. One of the crazies who told you Rove was behind the most unbelievable intentional piece of espionage in U.S. history. One of the crazies who told you Bush was using 9/11 to destroy the Bill of Rights. One of the crazies who is telling you that the disgrace in New Orleans is just another iteration of Bush's core beliefs.

Ah, yes. Another Michael Moore "THE SKY IS FALLING!!!" bleeding heart liberal. Did you predict the end of the world as we know it after Bush won re-election as well?

And before you start in about your ludicrous espionage theories relating to Rove, how about you explain Sandy Berger pilfering the National Archives DAYS before the 9/11 Commission was to begin looking at the Clinton Administration's preparedness (or rather, lack of it) relating to the 9/11 tragedy?

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: rahvin

Originally posted by: DonVito
I don't see how I can be any more clear.

You have to include your polticial opinions right on the surface and be completely partisan. See if you try to talk about things like being not partisan he gets confused and has a difficult timing figuring out what "side" you are on. This means he has to try infer which category to put you in. See in his world you can only be on one side or the other and that "sneaky" talk about being non-partisan makes it difficult to figure out which side you are on.

Someone else who just can't read in here? Well that's no surprise. DV said nothing about NOT being partisan, at least for himself, and specifically said he WOULD be partisan. His little diatribe was more like "Do as I say but not as I do."

But I don't expect any of the anti-war/hate Bush crew to give what I'm saying any understanding whatsoever. They consistently huddle together in here and blindly protect their own, regardless when one of them are blatantly wrong, just like they accuse Washington and Bush of doing. Congrats on becoming precisely that which you despise.

Sheesh, what a bunch of tools.