The biggest attractive point of Iphone6 is big size?

[mikegg]

It's okay. If Android is useless to you and it frustrates you, then stay away from it. It's good that we have options, right? There's no need to be too upset, just move on to something else

Isn't it actually worrying though that you can talk to Siri even though your phone is locked? What if somebody else gets a hold of your phone? Unless Siri recognizes its owner's voice now and refused everybody else's commands, which would be pretty cool.

On the other hand, with Android you can easily set up a Tasker profile that sets the keyguard to off whenever you're in the car or whenever you think you'll need a one handed operation. Which means your phone is locked everywhere else, but not in the car, so you can Google Now whatever you like while driving without even touching it. I don't think you can do that with an iPhone.



There's always going to be trade-offs. You just need to pick your poison and settle with whichever one irks you the least. Easy. One of the best improvements to the iPhones in the recent years is that you could do update through OTA now, without connecting it to iTunes on your computer. So if you want iTunes to strictly to play music, you can.

Cronos, I'm not upset at all. =) There is a lot of Apple hate in this forum and you're included. Like you said, there are other options out there, I took my option, and I want to educate those religious haters about the iOS and why I chose it. Nothing wrong with that right? I don't think iOS or the iPhone is perfect but in my opinion, it's better than any other out there for me.

Rather than having completely one-sided discussions and a circle jerk for Android, which is often the case here, I want to talk about what iOS does better.

Again, I get that Anandtech is a forum for geeks and geeks like control, they like to install mods, hacks, homebrew, and control every little setting. My problem is that geeks can't see that the iPhone isn't designed for them and thus, ridicule the platform.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Cronos, I'm not upset at all. =) There is a lot of Apple hate in this forum and you're included. Like you said, there are other options out there, I took my option, and I want to educate those religious haters about the iOS and why I chose it. Nothing wrong with that right? I don't think iOS or the iPhone is perfect but in my opinion, it's better than any other out there for me.

Rather than having completely one-sided discussions and a circle jerk for Android, which is often the case here, I want to talk about what iOS does better.

Again, I get that Anandtech is a forum for geeks and geeks like control, they like to install mods, hacks, homebrew, and control every little setting. My problem is that geeks can't see that the iPhone isn't designed for them and thus, ridicule the platform.

Thank you for having some sense. I too want control and so iOS isn't for me, but to those who spend their time ridiculing the platform, your efforts are better served elsewhere.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

So google now commands are not available from a PIN locked lock screen. How about if its not pin locked? I dont think you can talk to your google phone unless its unlocked. I could be wrong, but I'm running the most current KitKat rom on my phone and I'm pretty sure I'm unable to talk to it until its unlocked.

Being able to talk to a locked phone would be huge for me, honestly. I'd use the hell outta that feature. I would also use the hell outta Siri if I had an iphone because its very easily accessible by holding the home button down. I want my android phone to act that way.

Perhaps a Moto X user can answer?

But yes, always on listening is HUGE. Ever since I started to use my handsfree wireless dock in my car I noticed that in order to interact with my phone I have to clearly violate the law and reach for my phone on my dash and touch it to unlock it to dial number, etc. or even touch it first before being able to use voice commands. In that sense both the iPhone and Nexus 5 need work. With that said the Nexus 5 is clunkier because for someone who doesn't use the stock launcher I need to invoke Google Now by swiping up from the bottom which isn't as reliable as long holding the home button.

That's exactly why I'm jealous of always on commands, and I hope the OnePlus One addresses this.

 

[mikegg]

Thank you for having some sense. I too want control and so iOS isn't for me, but to those who spend their time ridiculing the platform, your efforts are better served elsewhere.

Actually, I think my efforts are best here. I was once an Apple hater, Android user, hacker, mod-installer, etc. Let's see if I can convert anybody here.

 

[TuxDave]

The gestures are pretty good for sure. Do you play any games using the trackpad that require left and right button clicks? It is almost impossible. It isn't the end of the world and I still use my Mac for basic computing tasks, but it would be nice to be able to fire up a game of Minecraft or Dredmor every so often without needing a mouse .. which needs a solid surface .. which means I just end up using my desktop PC instead .. which is in the basement ... which defeats the purpose of getting a laptop in the first place

Ha... OSX... games.... hahahaha

(but seriously, I still rely on my Windows Desktop for gaming, my Macbook Air is for MS Office and surfing)

 

[AznAnarchy99]

To the iTunes comment; I don't think I've ever used iTunes to setup my iphone. Everything can be done from the phone now with iCloud.

 

[cronos]

Cronos, I'm not upset at all. =) There is a lot of Apple hate in this forum and you're included.

Huh what are you talking about? I'm the farthest thing away from an Apple hater! In fact right there in my post that you replied just now I added something good about the iPhone which you didn't seem to realize that it's a major improvement from before. And my other posts in this thread were me trying to convince someone else about how amazing the Mac trackpad is. How can I be an Apple hater?

I wasn't even involved in this thread at all until you asked a question about Android and I was giving you the information that you were asking for. I have been nothing but informative and courteous in my posts here, and you accused me of being a hater?

Like you said, there are other options out there, I took my option, and I want to educate those religious haters about the iOS and why I chose it. Nothing wrong with that right? I don't think iOS or the iPhone is perfect but in my opinion, it's better than any other out there for me.

If that's what you want to do, good for you!

Rather than having completely one-sided discussions and a circle jerk for Android, which is often the case here, I want to talk about what iOS does better. Again, I get that Anandtech is a forum for geeks and geeks like control, they like to install mods, hacks, homebrew, and control every little setting. My problem is that geeks can't see that the iPhone isn't designed for them and thus, ridicule the platform.

This may have some truth in it, but what does this have to do with our discussion at all?

 

[cronos]

To the iTunes comment; I don't think I've ever used iTunes to setup my iphone. Everything can be done from the phone now with iCloud.

I know, that's what I said! I was the one who told him this and he called me an Apple hater. I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone or something.

 

[mikegg]

I know, that's what I said! I was the one who told him this and he called me an Apple hater. I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone or something.

If you want to add music, videos, etc to your phone, you need to use iTunes. If you want to create backups on your computer, you need to use iTunes. If you want to restore your iPhone, you need to use iTunes. If you want to encrypt your backup, you need to use iTunes. If you have a new computer and want to transfer all your apps/purchases, you need to use iTunes.

Also, no need to get mad. It's just a phone. Both companies make good phones and OSs. I like some of Android's features too. Relax.

 

[cronos]

If you want to add music, videos, etc to your phone, you need to use iTunes. If you want to create backups on your computer, you need to use iTunes. If you want to restore your iPhone, you need to use iTunes. If you want to encrypt your backup, you need to use iTunes. If you have a new computer and want to transfer all your apps/purchases, you need to use iTunes.

Also, no need to get mad. It's just a phone. Both companies make good phones and OSs. I like some of Android's features too. Relax.

The irony here is that you were explaining to me how terrible iTunes is to someone who defended it, that you just accused of being an Apple hater, that you told to relax because you like some Android features too. That's a gem right there :thumbsup:

Clearly I was relaxed in my first two posts directed at you, then you accused me of being an Apple hater, then when I replied, instead of addressing that reply you chose to reply to my other post which wasn't even addressed to you, telling me to relax.

For those of you who are new to the internet, this is a classic trolling procedure. Unfortunately for you, senttoschool, you weren't trying to troll a noob, so I'm not going to take your bait

Just admit that you have wrongly accused me of being an Apple hater. Or not, personally I don't really care, my little feeling isn't that easily hurt. However, if you don't, the history of our conversation is right there for everyone to see, and everyone else can easily see what kind of poster you are. Good luck, and choose wisely

 

[AznAnarchy99]

If you want to add music, videos, etc to your phone, you need to use iTunes.

I don't know, I use Google Music for all my music needs

If you want to create backups on your computer, you need to use iTunes.

Cloud can keep multiple back ups of your phone

If you want to restore your iPhone, you need to use iTunes.

No you don't

If you want to encrypt your backup, you need to use iTunes.

I dont know this one. Never had the need

If you have a new computer and want to transfer all your apps/purchases, you need to use iTunes.

All my purchases are logged into my account. The same way all my Google app purchases were logged into the play store/

 

[tHa ShIzNiT]

Perhaps a Moto X user can answer?

But yes, always on listening is HUGE. Ever since I started to use my handsfree wireless dock in my car I noticed that in order to interact with my phone I have to clearly violate the law and reach for my phone on my dash and touch it to unlock it to dial number, etc. or even touch it first before being able to use voice commands. In that sense both the iPhone and Nexus 5 need work. With that said the Nexus 5 is clunkier because for someone who doesn't use the stock launcher I need to invoke Google Now by swiping up from the bottom which isn't as reliable as long holding the home button.

That's exactly why I'm jealous of always on commands, and I hope the OnePlus One addresses this.

Was hoping we might get an answer to this one today

 

[Red Storm]

Was hoping we might get an answer to this one today

Moto X gives you options. You can either have voice commands work even when the phone is pin locked, you can enable the option to unlock by speaking the pin, or you can have commands be disabled while pin locked.

Either way, it was the first phone to do voice commands right. Having to physically interact with your phone to start touch less controls is very counterintuitive.

Also I do know that the Note 3 can have always on mic enabled, but in the options it says that it's a battery drainer, probably because the phone doesn't have the dedicated hardware to offset an always on mic.

 

[number29ag]

If you want to add music, videos, etc to your phone, you need to use iTunes.

I don't know, I use Google Music for all my music needs

If you want to create backups on your computer, you need to use iTunes.

Cloud can keep multiple back ups of your phone

If you want to restore your iPhone, you need to use iTunes.

No you don't

If you want to encrypt your backup, you need to use iTunes.

I dont know this one. Never had the need

If you have a new computer and want to transfer all your apps/purchases, you need to use iTunes.

All my purchases are logged into my account. The same way all my Google app purchases were logged into the play store/

This is correct. It's amazing how little people seem to know about the various platforms that they spend so long arguing about. Personally I feel it's best to fully immerse yourself and try them for yourself before passing comments.

 

[s44]

Also I do know that the Note 3 can have always on mic enabled, but in the options it says that it's a battery drainer, probably because the phone doesn't have the dedicated hardware to offset an always on mic.

I'm pretty sure the Snapdragon 800 does have native support for that. Have you tried it to see what the marginal battery life difference might be?

 

[mikegg]

If you want to add music, videos, etc to your phone, you need to use iTunes.

I don't know, I use Google Music for all my music needs

If you want to create backups on your computer, you need to use iTunes.

Cloud can keep multiple back ups of your phone

If you want to restore your iPhone, you need to use iTunes.

No you don't

If you want to encrypt your backup, you need to use iTunes.

I dont know this one. Never had the need

If you have a new computer and want to transfer all your apps/purchases, you need to use iTunes.

All my purchases are logged into my account. The same way all my Google app purchases were logged into the play store/

1. Congrats on using Google Music. Still need iTunes to import/remove music.
2. Cloud can keep backups but it's limited 5GB unless you pay. If you want to have a backup on your computer, you need iTunes.
3. You can restore a backup from iCloud but again, it's limited to 5GB. It's best to save a backup copy to your computer. It can do this automatically as you charge your iPhone. Again, iTunes is needed.
4. Yup, if you want to encrypt your local backup copy, you need iTunes.
5. Because iTunes is so central to the iPhone, you will need to use iTunes to transfer everything over.

 

[tsupersonic]

There are third party programs to sync music with iOS devices. I personally HATE iTunes on Windows. It's just way too bloated for what it is.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

1. Congrats on using Google Music. Still need iTunes to import/remove music.
2. Cloud can keep backups but it's limited 5GB unless you pay. If you want to have a backup on your computer, you need iTunes.
3. You can restore a backup from iCloud but again, it's limited to 5GB. It's best to save a backup copy to your computer. It can do this automatically as you charge your iPhone. Again, iTunes is needed.
4. Yup, if you want to encrypt your local backup copy, you need iTunes.
5. Because iTunes is so central to the iPhone, you will need to use iTunes to transfer everything over.

I guess for your needs it doesn't work for you if you're trying to have 5+ different backups. My entire phone back up is only 500mb right now and it constantly updates the backup file everyday.

I'm hate iTunes too and it was the major factor why I've never owned an iPhone before this 5S. I don't even think I have iTunes installed in my computer.

I will comment that iCloud is better than anything that Android has to offer in terms of back up. It is an exact mirror image of your phone. Only thing you have to do is reenter passwords. Only way I had that with my androids was through recovery but it was not automatic.

 

[openwheel]

I echo the same sentiment: iTunes can blow me.

 

[akugami]

iTunes is a pile of garbage. At first glance, it looks terrific. In actual use...why the heck is it so SLOW?? It's a mess! They need to do what Adobe did with the last generation of Acrobat releases...deep-six the old code & write it to be super-fast. Adobe was losing people left & right to the ultra-zippy Foxit Reader until they did a complete 180 & released the updated version (a few versions ago) that launches nearly instantly.

And yup, you don't need to be tethered for pretty much anything these days - music, backups, updates, etc. Which is great, because iTunes is a bloated hog haha.

If you're talking about the current iTunes, the sad part is it's a ton better than the old iTunes...and I still think they need a complete overhaul of iTunes.

...cmdrdredd called it, Apple backed themselves into a corner keeping oddball aspect rations for so long. Android can change aspect ration and resolution all they want because they stayed agnostic almost from the get go.

I think it was more Steve Job's doing. For all the positives the man can bring, he can be a bullheaded SOB who can't admit he's wrong when he clearly is.

I've always been of the opinion that to expand the iPhone's market presence, Apple should have went with a larger phone and kept the smaller phone. Not everyone wants a larger phone but by the same token, not everyone is satisfied with the smaller screen size of the current iPhone.

I think Apple dropped the ball when they created the iPhone 5. What needed to happen was a slightly cheaper phone with the old iPhone 4 screen size, but a larger 4.5" to 5" screen to accommodate those who need/want a larger screen. Not a longer screen, but an overall larger screen in every way.

Having to do tech support on my phone occasionally by remoting in to a desktop system through Logmein, a 5" screen would help tremendously. Keep the smaller screen for some folks like my parents who have no need for a larger screen.

...I wish Apple could ditch the physical home button and figure out a way to provide TouchID as an on-screen experience. Not needing to place a physical button on the front of the device could potentially allow them to make the phone smaller.

I actually like the physical home button on the iPhone. I was actually ticked off when a lot of Android phones lost their physical buttons...

 

[Ichinisan]

Anyway, I'm sure there will be tight integration with the iWatch / wearable device that will launch at the same time.

 

[BUnit1701]

Eh, the No.1 reason why ex-iPhone users leave Apple is because of screen size.

This cuts both ways. I personally know 3 people who bought iPhone5 variants because all the Android phones were too big.

 

[number29ag]

This cuts both ways. I personally know 3 people who bought iPhone5 variants because all the Android phones were too big.

My partner is about to buy an iPhone to replace his SGS2 because the flagship Android phones are all too huge. It's his number one reason for getting the iPhone instead.

 

[lopri]

If nothing more it'll establish the new perfect size screen.

I have zero interest in Apple products.

The final iphone user in my family recently defected to the S5.

I am in a very similar boat. I used to argue pros and cons of iOS and Android here but I no longer have such desire, and simply think everyone should enjoy what they like.

Said that, I expect a gigantic hype and sales of a larger screen iPhone. I also expect lots of hysterical reviews around the web.