The biggest attractive point of Iphone6 is big size?

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Lifer
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I'd consider an IP6 if it was 4.7". I'm probably too invested with Google now to make the switch back though. Left the iPhone 3GS for the SGS2 and never looked back.
 

mikegg

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Well you're comparing your Air to a laptop that's a third of the cost lol.

But I can't hate on the MacBooks. Their battery life and trackpad are exceptional. I wouldn't use OSX though and I'd just bootcamp to Windows 7.

As for iPhone. I hope this rumor is true.

http://www.dailytech.com/Report+App...ull+HD+with+1704x960+Display/article34909.htm

I'd be happy with that.

People say you can get a laptop as good as the Macbook for $400 and that Macbooks are overvalued. That's false. Macbooks, in my opinion, offer more value than PC laptops. They are simply exceptional.

Like I said, I couldn't find a laptop that was as thin and light as the Macbook Air, offered 12 hours of battery life, and had a PCIE SSD for $950. All three properties were important to me.
 
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mikegg

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I can't imagine having to press a button to activate voice commands. :p

I don't understand this... When I'm driving, I can hold down the Home button and send texts, make calls with Siri without ever looking at the home. With the Nexus, I had to unlock the phone, then look at the phone to see where I can swipe up to bring up Google Now. The iPhone method is indefinitely better. Last I used, Google Now was not up to par to Siri. That was a year and a half ago though so I'm not sure how much Google Now improved.
 

pm

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You just need to change how you carry it. I went from running with a iPhone 4S to running with a Note 2 and since I wear my phone on my back now (in a carrier) I actually notice my phone less than before.

You might be right, and it's a good suggestion... but I'm an old dog and new tricks like wearing it on my back seems... odd to me. :) We'll see. If the world is going to large phones, then I'll need to do something...
 

AznAnarchy99

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I'd consider an IP6 if it was 4.7". I'm probably too invested with Google now to make the switch back though. Left the iPhone 3GS for the SGS2 and never looked back.

I thought so too but I basically use ALL of Google's services on my iPhone and none of Apple's except for their podcast app.

Edit: Hey I just noticed I hit lifer. 10 years later!
 

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I don't understand this... When I'm driving, I can hold down the Home button and send texts, make calls with Siri without ever looking at the home. With the Nexus, I had to unlock the phone, then look at the phone to see where I can swipe up to bring up Google Now. The iPhone method is indefinitely better. Last I used, Google Now was not up to par to Siri. That was a year and a half ago though so I'm not sure how much Google Now improved.

I have a Moto X. I don't need to press any button or even reach for my phone, I just talk to it. That's infinitely better than having to press and hold a button, especially while driving. ;)
 

Anubis

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I have a Moto X. I don't need to press any button or even reach for my phone, I just talk to it. That's infinitely better than having to press and hold a button, especially while driving. ;)

the moto x is still unique in that reguard correct?
 

mikegg

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I have a Moto X. I don't need to press any button or even reach for my phone, I just talk to it. That's infinitely better than having to press and hold a button, especially while driving. ;)

So the Mic on the phone is always on? I'm assuming you say something like "Moto do this"?
 

cmdrdredd

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Wait, what? If Apple can't get a Full HD screen into their flagship 2014 phone, I think we can safely call Apple down for the count. Can't even match what their competitors did over a year ago? Cripes.

Yep but apple backed itself into a corner because they kept the aspect ratio the same for too long in order to make apps work across generations of devices without odd resizing and stretching. Now they have to try to keep up with everyone else they end up losing their aspect ratio and causing apps to not function properly or whatnot.

The problem I see is their supposed "retina display" doesn't even have as high a PPI as some of the flagship phones already out there. So for techies there may still be a perception that they are not getting the best screen and would they be wrong?
 

mikegg

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Yep but apple backed itself into a corner because they kept the aspect ratio the same for too long in order to make apps work across generations of devices without odd resizing and stretching. Now they have to try to keep up with everyone else they end up losing their aspect ratio and causing apps to not function properly or whatnot.

The problem I see is their supposed "retina display" doesn't even have as high a PPI as some of the flagship phones already out there. So for techies there may still be a perception that they are not getting the best screen and would they be wrong?

It's still retina right? If it's retina then we can't see individual pixels. So my question to you is, why does it matter if it's not 1080p(a resolution proclaimed by marketing as HD) if you can't see anymore than retina?

Seriously... can someone please answer this question? I'm having a hard time understanding why we need PPI more than retina.

For example, my iPhone 5S has a much lower resolution than giant Android phones but I seriously cannot see a single pixel on my phone. So what benefit would a highly resolution do if we can't see the difference? I know the downside to this if lower battery life. What are the upsides?
 
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Bateluer

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It's still retina right? If it's retina then we can't see individual pixels. So my question to you is, why does it matter if it's not 1080p(a resolution proclaimed by marketing as HD) if you can't see anymore than retina?

Seriously... can someone please answer this question? I'm having a hard time understanding why we need PPI more than retina.

For example, my iPhone 5S has a much lower resolution than giant Android phones but I seriously cannot see a single pixel on my phone. So what benefit would a highly resolution do if we can't see the difference? I know the downside to this if lower battery life. What are the upsides?

Job's definition for iDevice 'Retina' was somewhat arbitrary, at 300ppi. A 1702x960 resolution gives it a 416 PPI, by the calculator I just Google'd for. So, still 'Retina.'

There's really not much different in battery life between resolutions in displays, not sure why that keeps popping up every time resolution is mentioned. Its the size of the screen that has an impact, compared to that, resolution's impact is nearly inconsequential.

A big draw back is going to be all the 720p and 1080p videos, standard for movies, DVD rips, BD Rips, etc, are all going to be cropped or rescaled for display on the iPhone 6. :/

cmdrdredd called it, Apple backed themselves into a corner keeping oddball aspect rations for so long. Android can change aspect ration and resolution all they want because they stayed agnostic almost from the get go.
 

mikegg

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Job's definition for iDevice 'Retina' was somewhat arbitrary, at 300ppi. A 1702x960 resolution gives it a 416 PPI, by the calculator I just Google'd for. So, still 'Retina.'

There's really not much different in battery life between resolutions in displays, not sure why that keeps popping up every time resolution is mentioned. Its the size of the screen that has an impact, compared to that, resolution's impact is nearly inconsequential.

A big draw back is going to be all the 720p and 1080p videos, standard for movies, DVD rips, BD Rips, etc, are all going to be cropped or rescaled for display on the iPhone 6. :/

cmdrdredd called it, Apple backed themselves into a corner keeping oddball aspect rations for so long. Android can change aspect ration and resolution all they want because they stayed agnostic almost from the get go.

I read a lot of articles on Apple's retina definition vs research, etc. The conclusion most of the time was, most humans can't see any pixels at a normal view distance with the iPhone. Those with elite eyesights might.

I honestly don't know how a 1080p movie would look on a smaller screen. I'd imagine that any video player will scale back and quality won't suffer.

To me, the screen resolution is a non-issue. But I guess having a 1080p screen gets all the geeks excited. It becomes an issue if I can see pixels though.
 

Bateluer

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I read a lot of articles on Apple's retina definition vs research, etc. The conclusion most of the time was, most humans can't see any pixels at a normal view distance with the iPhone. Those with elite eyesights might.

The PPI is high enough on these displays, 400+, that make the detection of the individual pixels mostly irrelevant. No human high is going to see the individual pixels on the 468ppi m7, for example. Or the ~500 ppin in the 1440p LG G3. Its more about them using an oddball, wtf resolution instead of a standard that spans multiple industries.

The longer they keep going with the kookiness, the more painful its going to be when they finally get on the train.
 

Brian Stirling

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Wait, what? If Apple can't get a Full HD screen into their flagship 2014 phone, I think we can safely call Apple down for the count. Can't even match what their competitors did over a year ago? Cripes.


That would be insane ... they can't actually be planning this. This has to be some misinformation.

Then again, Apple loves to maintain this scaling thing and it might lessen the burden on the SoI and therefore improve battery life, but at what cost to true usability.


Wow, just wow...


Brian
 

RossMAN

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Do all Android phones have this now or just the Moto?

cronos is correct as usual.

For my Nexus 5 I thought it was a gimmick but I actually use it several times a week for simple tasks like weather, opening an app, finding a location such as "find Starbucks", calling people, or simple Google searches. Yes it's faster and easier especially if you're lazy or walking. My only complaint is it only works while the phone is awake and on the home screen.

http://www.androidpit.com/how-to-use-ok-google-voice-commands

http://blog.laptopmag.com/how-to-nexus-5-google-now

Here's a cool video with 50 Google Now commands:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vT0AWDq3DE
 

Ichinisan

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That's why we all have opinions and choices. I have a Mac and think OSX sucks compared to to anything Windows 7 and above. The hardware is pretty nice though if you can live with a one button mouse solution by default (I can't so my 10 year old has inherited the Mac while I am happier with a Win8 tablet and old Dell laptop).
Hint: It's a muti-touch trackpad. Have you ever tried clicking with TWO fingers on the touchpad? It's very natural.
 

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cronos is correct as usual.

For my Nexus 5 I thought it was a gimmick but I actually use it several times a week for simple tasks like weather, opening an app, finding a location such as "find Starbucks", calling people, or simple Google searches. Yes it's faster and easier especially if you're lazy or walking. My only complaint is it only works while the phone is awake and on the home screen.

http://www.androidpit.com/how-to-use-ok-google-voice-commands

http://blog.laptopmag.com/how-to-nexus-5-google-now

Here's a cool video with 50 Google Now commands:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vT0AWDq3DE

We need to clarify so that people have the right information that Google Now is NOT available from a PIN locked lock screen. The Moto X is the only exception to this but you have to speak your PIN to the device before it will action your request. No other Android phone can be operated by voice when it is locked securely.

On the other hand, Apple allows you to toggle a setting in Siri that allows you to use voice control from a securely locked device by pressing and holding the home button. You can place calls, send texts, ask the device to play music/skip tracks etc. This is obviously a more powerful and versatile solution.
 
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ControlD

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Hint: It's a muti-touch trackpad. Have you ever tried clicking with TWO fingers on the touchpad? It's very natural.

Yeah, I am well aware of the two finger click. It works fine for some things and sucks for others. Just like with iPhone vs. Android it all comes down to people's opinions and usage patterns. I think my Mac is a fine computer aside from OSX and being limited to one button. :D
 

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I came to the conclusion after switching back to iOS from Android that I wasn't going back to Android again. All I've been holding out for on the iPhone side is a slightly larger screen (4.3-4.7 max) with great battery life and a reliable OS. That's all I want. Innovation is fine as long as it does not result in a compromise to battery life and reliability.
 

cronos

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Yeah, I am well aware of the two finger click. It works fine for some things and sucks for others. Just like with iPhone vs. Android it all comes down to people's opinions and usage patterns. I think my Mac is a fine computer aside from OSX and being limited to one button. :D

Is this a very old Mac? Since 2008/9 the Mac trackpad actually has two physical buttons and you can left click and right click just like a Windows trackpad. They don't show the separator, but the two buttons are there, just click on the bottom left/right corner.