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96Firebird

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I don't mind HC not showing ammo, but it would be nice if the ammo count didn't decrease by magazine. I run out way too quick because I tend to reload after shooting every time. I've been trying to train myself not to do this when playing HC.

So, ideally, I'd like it to either show ammo count and decrease by magazine size every reload, or not show ammo count and only decrease by bullets show every reload.
 
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Its realistic for the gun to have a certain amount of ammo per magazine and when you throw away the magazine you loose the ammo in it. But with a real gun you can do a quick removal of the magazine and weight check or look into a window on the side of the mag to estimate remaining rounds. In addition you can keep old magazines around and even repack magazines, all be it that is a slow process.

Hardcore is a little over the top in its requirements on ammo and its not really realistic. It doesn't directly bother me too much so long as I have a support guy around to replenish, its more annoying when I don't.
 
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The only thing wrong with hardcore, as it is, is the sniper/dmr damage values. Hit boxes with different values is so necessary.
 
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DeadFred

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I get sick of people whining about bolt snipers on HC servers while they run around with full auto spam machines. Get smacked with a heavy caliber .338 or .408 and you should drop like stone with one hit.

DMRs are only 1hk if its a headshot and thats how it should be with any weapon on HC.

Me thinks a lot of HC players really aren't all that hardcore after all. :p
 
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DeadFred said:
I get sick of people whining about bolt snipers on HC servers while they run around with full auto spam machines. Get smacked with a heavy caliber .338 or .408 and you should drop like stone with one hit.

DMRs are only 1hk if its a headshot and thats how it should be with any weapon on HC.

Me thinks a lot of HC players really aren't all that hardcore after all. :p
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Alot of the 'full auto spam machines' are firing calibers you wouldn't be getting up from either. The main problem with OHK is that you get dropped without a chance to respond from someone you had a 0.0001% chance of spotting. Its not a realism problem, its a game play problem.
 
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NikolaeVarius said:
Basically BF4 needs a Classic BF mode. I still haven't found a server that offers this. My current favorite servers comes close, but still hasn't activated magazines.
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When BF4 first came out when ran really close to classic settings. While the people who discovered us generally came back, not many people found us and it led to a dead server a lot of the time. If you aren't a defined game type you're not coming up in the server browser with most searches. Its unfortunate, but thats the way it is.
 
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I found a good server. Its a Bolt sniper & knife only hardcore server team death match. Its fantastic. Called BFGeeks or something like that. Its a place of punishment, so come ready to die.
 
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Venomous

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moonbogg said:
I found a good server. Its a Bolt sniper & knife only hardcore server team death match. Its fantastic. Called BFGeeks or something like that. Its a place of punishment, so come ready to die.
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I've seen that a few times myself. Think I'll try it out tonight :)
 
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showb1z

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NikolaeVarius said:
You're free to think otherwise, which is deluded at best. But I don't see how being able to track a guy running behind a wall with a very very bright red arrow not a wallhack. In BF2, they only showed up in the minimap which wasn't detailed enough to give you all that much information other than knowing a guy was in the area.
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Don't you only see the 3D marker when you have LOS in BF4? Pretty sure that's how it works now.
 
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DeadFred

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Midwayman said:
Alot of the 'full auto spam machines' are firing calibers you wouldn't be getting up from either. The main problem with OHK is that you get dropped without a chance to respond from someone you had a 0.0001% chance of spotting. Its not a realism problem, its a game play problem.
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Well body armor would save you from the light caliber assault rifles, carbines and can defeat even the .308 cal rounds of snipers like the M40A. The solution to your "game play problem" would be to play on HC servers that ban snipers, there are plenty of those, or go back to normal servers.

My problem with sniping on normal is that I am always tagging people who then run off and heal or I get measly kill assist points. Head shots are all that count and even then it sometimes seems to take two, WTF!!!

In close quarters (since Im a running sniper who plays objectives) Im at a huge disadvantage even in HC servers, but nothing beats smoking someone spraying a full auto at 20 meters or less with quick scope to the chest. LOL
 
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96Firebird

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DeadFred said:
In close quarters (since Im a running sniper who plays objectives) Im at a huge disadvantage even in HC servers, but nothing beats smoking someone spraying a full auto at 20 meters or less with quick scope to the chest. LOL
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I had some guy bitching at me because I was sniping on HC Domination on Dawnbreaker. I was sniping next to A, and every time the enemy tried to take A I would run in with my pistol and stop them. I killed him a couple times sniping and a couple times with my pistol and I think he rage quit. :biggrin:
 
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DeadFred

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96Firebird said:
I had some guy bitching at me because I was sniping on HC Domination on Dawnbreaker. I was sniping next to A, and every time the enemy tried to take A I would run in with my pistol and stop them. I killed him a couple times sniping and a couple times with my pistol and I think he rage quit. :biggrin:
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Yeah my pistol and knife are always getting a workout.

Thats what bugs me about people complaining about snipers, sure the campers are lazy bums but you can camp with any weapon or kit, try using a bolt action while capping Domination flags and come back and tell me how easy we snipers have it. LOL
 
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Snipers in HC wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the fact that ARs are so poor past 50m or so. In the time it takes to land 3-4 shots on target (likely with an RDS) any competent sniper or DMR user is going to kill you first.
 
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duragezic

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Do you need China Rising to actually have some servers to play on? I really liked Rush in BF3 but there's few servers. I was playing on this ADK Obliteration or something one and it was great but it seems to be gone today. There's basically no other large non-Conquest servers.

How can a game this popular have so few? There were way more in BF3.
 
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duragezic

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Do you get battlepacks due to this player appreciation month? I've been playing like every night for 30 minutes and think I got one bronze battlepack everytime I logged on. Most is pretty useless like a 4x scope for that crappy MX4 but I did get some good things, which is nice for a low level nub like myself.
 
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Is anyone else having trouble logging into BF4/ Origin? Battlelog is being sluggish or non-responsive and when I DO get in, my stats are all zeroed out.
 
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