"Who are serving evil"? Wow, you must really be off the meds today.
As for "systemic", which you seem to mock - how many offices had similar responses that *were* caught on video? How many ACORN offices did the crew visit, by the way? Link?
"Who are serving evil"? Wow, you must really be off the meds today.
As for "systemic", which you seem to mock - how many offices had similar responses that *were* caught on video? How many ACORN offices did the crew visit, by the way? Link?
CallMeJoe
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Metaphors require an implicit comparison between seemingly unlike items. I fail to see such in either of the idioms Hayabusa Rider employed.
Also, while commenting on another's grammatical skills, it would serve you well to better attend to your own capitalization and punctuation.
I forgot all about ACORN. What did they do again? Here's a secret I'm not supposed to spill: ACORN is far more important to you guys than to us independents, most democrats and some critical thinking Republicans. It's your obsession, not ours. Ditto Obama's birth certificate, the supposed drive to reinstate the Fairness Doctrine, and the Obama Administration's plans to round up everyone's guns.
I'd never even heard of ACORN until something like a month or two before the election when the wingnuts started to scream about the organization. I must admit I'm a bit confused by the hardon they've got for taking ACORN down. because the sinister organization of their fevered imaginations has nothing to do with the rather benign institution of apolitical do-gooders that I was familiar with. I say all this because before last years Presidential campaign, if you had said to me, "I predict that within a year and a half, the right wing will destroy ACORN," my response would have been: "What the fuck is ACORN?" Democrats get the White House; Republicans get to dance on ACORN's grave.
I have heard from the truth teller Beck that Obama is closely tied with ACORN. Its Obama's ACORN!?!. You've got to admire the planning skills of the man, starting the organization back in 1970 in order to win the 2008 election. Amazing!. Shit, that ain't nothing! He had to plant birth announcements in Honolulu newspapers the day he was born in Kenya!
According to Wiki Obama, along with a team of other lawyers, served as local counsel for them in 1995 for a voting rights lawsuit they filed that was joined by the Justice Department. In the Democratic primaries in 2008, Obama hired an ACORN affiliate in a get-out-the-vote drive. Obama's campaign did not have any official involvement with them in the general election. This is "closely tied"? Particularly enough to somehow intertwine the criminal actions of ACORN employees to Obama or to call it "Obama's ACORN"? There's some fucking intellectual honesty for ya.
Say Sarah Palin gives a speech at, oh I don't know a FedEx convention, praising the FedEx workers for their excellent work. Say that sometime after she gives this speech, a serial killer is apprehended and convicted, and it turns out he works for FedEx. That would mean that Sarah Palin condones serial killing, right?
I'm sure that's what you'd like to think, that the protests and constant smear attempts are simply honest Americans expressing their frustration at an administration run amok. What we in reality land are seeing, though, is astroturfed corporate-fed PR events, designed to get the GOP back into the offices they so willingly raped over the last decade or so. And when they don't get the numbers they want, they just make up attendance and pretend it's a "mandate".
I notice the GOPers seem to be terribly interested in things scaring the American public. Nay, terrifying us?. I saw a sign at a tea party that read: "The fact that we are not Astroturf scares the living crap out of the socialists".
LOL!, You don't scare "the living crap" out of critical thinking Americans - we don't take you seriously at all. Oh, and we're not "socialists", either - the real socialists seem to take offense at you trying to paint us with that brush. We're shaking in our boots that our plot to unseat democracy is threatened by people with signs. It's cute. Like baby turtle cute.
I've just come from an alternative future, one where ACORNs prostitution ring was not stopped in its tracks by intrepid conservative muckrakers and ACORN was allowed to take over the census. In this fantasy land future, people of this present, Barack Obama rules with an iron fist, where the Americorps, The Salvation Army and ACORN gather up disbelievers to appear before death panels. Health Care is not just rationed, but used to keep people in line. If you voice dissent that means no EKG for you, unless you are an illegal immmigrant, in which case you get not just free health care, but a free car, a free LCD TV and a free XBOX.
So I come from the future to also offer my thanks to Glenn Beck, whos' dedication may prevent such a horrible future from occurring. Now, could someone please point me in the direction of Cyberdyne? Thanks. Apparently, ACORN was the lynchpin which was holding the entire Left together. There's nothing left now but to hand the White House over to Sarah Palin. So ACORN has some legitimacy and corruption troubles amongst their employees. And Glen and the right went after them like hungry dogs and, as a pack, they took down this EVIL Organization like a crippled gazelle and they are now feasting on its entrails. I think Fox 'News' should host a Lets All Suck Off Glen Beck For Overthrowing ACORN Night. I can see Beck raising his sippy-cup to you, fellows! Today Acorn, tomorrow the Hanna Montana Fan Club! The world is your mollusc now! Not only was ACORN pushing child prostitution, the current President of the United States is their pimp. And a damn sneaky one at that. No fur hat, no ostrich feathers, no gold-tipped cane, no diamond grills. no tight asses bitches on his arm...The man ain't even got bling! You'd think he was some sort of lawyerly looking type or some such. Devious fucker.
I'd never even heard of ACORN until something like a month or two before the election when the wingnuts started to scream about the organization. I must admit I'm a bit confused by the hardon they've got for taking ACORN down. because the sinister organization of their fevered imaginations has nothing to do with the rather benign institution of apolitical do-gooders that I was familiar with. I say all this because before last years Presidential campaign, if you had said to me, "I predict that within a year and a half, the right wing will destroy ACORN," my response would have been: "What the fuck is ACORN?" Democrats get the White House; Republicans get to dance on ACORN's grave.
I have heard from the truth teller Beck that Obama is closely tied with ACORN. Its Obama's ACORN!?!. You've got to admire the planning skills of the man, starting the organization back in 1970 in order to win the 2008 election. Amazing!. Shit, that ain't nothing! He had to plant birth announcements in Honolulu newspapers the day he was born in Kenya!
According to Wiki Obama, along with a team of other lawyers, served as local counsel for them in 1995 for a voting rights lawsuit they filed that was joined by the Justice Department. In the Democratic primaries in 2008, Obama hired an ACORN affiliate in a get-out-the-vote drive. Obama's campaign did not have any official involvement with them in the general election. This is "closely tied"? Particularly enough to somehow intertwine the criminal actions of ACORN employees to Obama or to call it "Obama's ACORN"? There's some fucking intellectual honesty for ya.
Say Sarah Palin gives a speech at, oh I don't know a FedEx convention, praising the FedEx workers for their excellent work. Say that sometime after she gives this speech, a serial killer is apprehended and convicted, and it turns out he works for FedEx. That would mean that Sarah Palin condones serial killing, right?
I'm sure that's what you'd like to think, that the protests and constant smear attempts are simply honest Americans expressing their frustration at an administration run amok. What we in reality land are seeing, though, is astroturfed corporate-fed PR events, designed to get the GOP back into the offices they so willingly raped over the last decade or so. And when they don't get the numbers they want, they just make up attendance and pretend it's a "mandate".
I notice the GOPers seem to be terribly interested in things scaring the American public. Nay, terrifying us?. I saw a sign at a tea party that read: "The fact that we are not Astroturf scares the living crap out of the socialists".
LOL!, You don't scare "the living crap" out of critical thinking Americans - we don't take you seriously at all. Oh, and we're not "socialists", either - the real socialists seem to take offense at you trying to paint us with that brush. We're shaking in our boots that our plot to unseat democracy is threatened by people with signs. It's cute. Like baby turtle cute.
I've just come from an alternative future, one where ACORNs prostitution ring was not stopped in its tracks by intrepid conservative muckrakers and ACORN was allowed to take over the census. In this fantasy land future, people of this present, Barack Obama rules with an iron fist, where the Americorps, The Salvation Army and ACORN gather up disbelievers to appear before death panels. Health Care is not just rationed, but used to keep people in line. If you voice dissent that means no EKG for you, unless you are an illegal immmigrant, in which case you get not just free health care, but a free car, a free LCD TV and a free XBOX.
So I come from the future to also offer my thanks to Glenn Beck, whos' dedication may prevent such a horrible future from occurring. Now, could someone please point me in the direction of Cyberdyne? Thanks. Apparently, ACORN was the lynchpin which was holding the entire Left together. There's nothing left now but to hand the White House over to Sarah Palin. So ACORN has some legitimacy and corruption troubles amongst their employees. And Glen and the right went after them like hungry dogs and, as a pack, they took down this EVIL Organization like a crippled gazelle and they are now feasting on its entrails. I think Fox 'News' should host a Lets All Suck Off Glen Beck For Overthrowing ACORN Night. I can see Beck raising his sippy-cup to you, fellows! Today Acorn, tomorrow the Hanna Montana Fan Club! The world is your mollusc now! Not only was ACORN pushing child prostitution, the current President of the United States is their pimp. And a damn sneaky one at that. No fur hat, no ostrich feathers, no gold-tipped cane, no diamond grills. no tight asses bitches on his arm...The man ain't even got bling! You'd think he was some sort of lawyerly looking type or some such. Devious fucker.
Bowfinger
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Bravo! Well done. Sadly, I doubt that even one of them has the attention span to read that many words, nor the intellectual honesty to understand it and recognize the absurdity of their behavior. Your point will sail far over their tiny little heads, wedged firmly in their over-developed rectums.
Just like when one dude from Yale University kills a young girl for no apparent reason, I don't go smearing the whole educational system as being "loaded with killers," nor do I make some knee-jerk generalization about the fine institution of Yale U, I also don't hold ACORN responsible for the poor judgment of some of its employees. Unless, of course, someone can point out how the organization itself systematically encouraged employees to act as they did.
AFAIK, that's yet to be proven, right?
AFAIK, that's yet to be proven, right?
blackangst1
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Thats not ACORN's platform. Partly, but not mostly.
If those opinion pieces werent so full of incorrect statements about the right, they might hold some water.
They are? News to me.
PJABBER
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Indictments are roll, roll, rolling in but only a few of the criminal cases have closed with convictions as of this time.
Much more detail in the referenced document here -
Is ACORN Intentionally Structured As a Criminal Enterprise?
(I am STILL laughing from BMW540I6speed's post... :laugh: )
Bowfinger
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I think ACORN as an organization is responsible in the sense its been poorly managed and needs to do a major housecleaning. What it is not, of course, at least based on any propaganda parroted by the nutters, is the corrupt and evil bogeyman deserving of the hysterical smear we've seen. By their asinine -- and wholly partisan -- standards, we must condemn virtually every large organization including the RNC. (Yes, it's true. There have been even more Republicans than ACORN flunkies caught engaging in reprehensible and corrupt behavior. Film at 11:00!)
Why the never ending, 24-7 smear campaign, then?
"Cause we care 'bout Amurica! Goddamn Commies!"
That sound right?
blackangst1
Lifer
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Maybe because the fraud and criminal activities by more than a couple offices demands it? Are you thinking...this is no big deal...isolated...etc? Can you fucking imagine what the left would be doing if the roles were reversed? lol
And I dont know what your "Amurica" and commies comments mean so wont respond.
You mean like when Halliburton and Blackwater loaded up $9 billion in cash with forklifts into trucks, and no one can tell anyone what happened to it after it disappeared in Iraq? $9 billion tax payer dollars gone. Stolen. That's a hell of a lot more than $53 million over 15 years, isn't it?
Every company has thieves. ACORN is no different. Why don't you open your eyes as to why they're really on the Neocon's shit list, instead of why scumbags like Beck say. Do you like being ignorant?
MovingTarget
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ACORN is a red herring. The OP's links only help solidify my opinion on this... Let the right get all riled up about them. It won't amount to much in the end.
blackangst1
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Who said anything about how much ACORN gets? The dollar amount isnt the issue, in case you havent been paying attention. The fact that is IS funded by the government is, but the dollar amount is irrelevant.
Bowfinger
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Unfortunately, it can have far more impact than it reasonably should because American voters as a whole aren't terribly attentive and are easily manipulated by fear-mongering and smear campaigns. It doesn't seem to matter whether there's any substance to the accusations. They just need to be loud and persistent. They've become the GOP's bread and butter.
blackangst1
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Which is? Why the right is calling for attention to it? I have commented on that. If theres another point, I missed it.
Thanks to the two people who have indicated they read the linked articles (Moonbeam and MovingTarget). Have others?
Bowfinger
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The point is that one can point to endless examples of wrongdoing by members of almost any large organization, yet you don't vilify the organization as a whole except when it makes for good right-wing propaganda. Over the previous eight years we saw far more serious and pervasive examples in organizations supported by the right, yet you turned a blind eye. Hypocritical at best. (In case you share PJ's problem with inflated ego, I'm once again using "you" collectively.)
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