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cytg111

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No surprise to me, vote fraud is an ongoing issue in this country. Time to get serious about it and stop it.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/oct/18/texas-democrats-ask-noncitizens-register-vote/

"The Texas Democratic Party asked non-citizens to register to vote, sending out applications to immigrants with the box citizenship already checked “Yes,” according to new complaints filed Thursday asking prosecutors to see what laws may have been broken.

The Public Interest Legal Foundation alerted district attorneys and the federal Justice Department to the pre-checked applications, and also included a signed affidavit from a man who said some of his relatives, who aren’t citizens, received the mailing.

“This is how the Texas Democratic Party is inviting foreign influence in an election in a federal election cycle,” said Logan Churchwell, spokesman for the PILF, a group that’s made its mark policing states’ voter registration practices."

The Texas secretary of state’s office said it, too, had gotten complaints both from immigrants and from relatives of dead people who said they got mailings asking them to register.

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott vowed to investigate.

“If true there will be serious consequences,” he said.
The PILF publicly released complaints it sent to Hidalgo and Starr counties asking for an investigation. The organization also provided copies of pre-marked voter applications and the affidavit from the man who said his non-citizen relatives received the mailing.

The applications were pre-addressed to elections officials, which is likely what left many voters to believe they were receiving an official communication from the state.

But the return address was from the State Democratic Executive Committee, and listed an address in Austin that matches the state Democratic Party’s headquarters.

The letter is emblazoned with “Urgent! Your voter registration deadline is October 9.” It continues: “Your voter registration application is inside. Complete, sign and return it today!”

On the application, boxes affirming the applicant is both 18 and a U.S. citizen are already checked with an “X” in the Yes field.

The mailing also urges those who are unsure if they’re registered to “Mail it in.”

PILF has been pushing state election officials in recent years to be wary of non-citizens who manage to register and, in many cases, to actually cast ballots. The organization has found thousands of people who later admitted they weren’t citizens, but who managed to register or vote in New Jersey, Virginia, North Carolina and Pennsylvania

The organization is also embroiled in a legal battle with Harris County, Texas, which has declined to provide PILF with similar voter data.

PILF says usually the origin of non-citizens voting is motor vehicle bureaus, where people are pressed to register — and often ignore or miss the admonition that they must be citizens.

In this case, though, the invitations were sent directly by a political party.

The data from North Carolina suggests that non-citizens who vote skew decidedly Democratic, based on their pattern of voting in Democratic primaries.

The affidavit PILF provided to prosecutors Thursday is from David C. Kifuri Jr.

He said “several relatives” of his who are legal permanent residents but not citizens got the mailing, and were confused. He said in his affidavit he told them to report the mailing to local authorities and not to fill it out any further."
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/oct/18/texas-democrats-ask-noncitizens-register-vote/


Related story.
https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX

"A complaint says the Texas Democratic Party asked noncitizens to register to vote, sending applications with citizenship box pre-checked. This is being investigated. If true there will be serious consequences. #txlege #tcot #"

And on the same topic.
https://www.star-telegram.com/news/politics-government/election/article220105460.html

"State authorities now allege Sanchez, also known as Leticia Sanchez Pierce, was among four women being paid to target elderly voters in north Fort Worth in a scheme to harvest their ballots for specific 2016 candidates."
So .... MORE voter suppression incoming? We are FURIOUS that the dems are asking all these DAMNED fine people to vote so we are going to focus on those non-citizens whos gotten the letter too (but cant use it for anything but wiping ones ass) and be VERY VERY CONCERNED..... that we suck as human beings and people are showing up to tell us.
Dont worry, when your ass gets handed to you Trump will declare the elections null and void, compromised by mexicans or whatever... Watch this space as your democracy crumbles.
 

umbrella39

Lifer
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LOL
heritage foundation... what's wrong, didn't want to post a link to a proud boys blog?
Debunked many times here, too... yet he is paid to trot it out...

The incident rate is somewhere between 0.0003 percent and 0.0025 percent and is only complained about when a Republican loses...

Fuck these clowns. Start putting these bastards in jail for disenfranchising minority votes. The REAL voter fraud... (one of them in any event the minority party in this country perpetrates on a daily basis in the name of staying in power)
 
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UNCjigga

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Probably another false flag operation by Cruz's cronies, similar to the robocalls that went out earlier.
 
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mpo

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All 1145 across the entire nation, how many were republicans? it doesn't show the party or did I miss it?
The Heritage list casts a wide net.

They do manage to capture the screwup of Thaddeus McCotter, R-Michigan 11th District.

What does the blurb say?
"Lorianne O'Brady, Don Yowchuang, and Paul Seewald

Former staff members for U.S. Representative Thaddeus McCotter created fake nominating petitions for his short-lived 2012 presidential campaign. Lorianne O'Brady pleaded no contest to falsely signing a nominating petition, and was sentenced to 20 days in either prison or a work program, as well as paying $2,625. Don Yowchuang pleaded no contest to 10 counts of forgery and six counts of falsely signing a nominating petition as a circulator, and received three years' probation and 200 hours of community service. Paul Seewald pleaded guilty to nine counts of falsely signing a nominating petition, and received 100 hours of community service and three years' probation.

Source: bit.ly/2eeyh9S"

The blurb isn't quite right. McCotter was a house member starting in 2003. He did run for president for the 2012 nomination. The staffers were caught literally copying-and-pasting signatures for his nominating petitions for his reelection run for the House, not the presidential run. The staffers got busted. McCotter skated.
 
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imported_tajmahal

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mpo/npc ?

The Heritage list casts a wide net.

They do manage to capture the screwup of Thaddeus McCotter, R-Michigan 11th District.

What does the blurb say?
"Lorianne O'Brady, Don Yowchuang, and Paul Seewald

Former staff members for U.S. Representative Thaddeus McCotter created fake nominating petitions for his short-lived 2012 presidential campaign. Lorianne O'Brady pleaded no contest to falsely signing a nominating petition, and was sentenced to 20 days in either prison or a work program, as well as paying $2,625. Don Yowchuang pleaded no contest to 10 counts of forgery and six counts of falsely signing a nominating petition as a circulator, and received three years' probation and 200 hours of community service. Paul Seewald pleaded guilty to nine counts of falsely signing a nominating petition, and received 100 hours of community service and three years' probation.

Source: bit.ly/2eeyh9S"

The blurb isn't quite right. McCotter was a house member starting in 2003. He did run for president for the 2012 nomination. The staffers were caught literally copying-and-pasting signatures for his nominating petitions for his reelection run for the House, not the presidential run. The staffers got busted. McCotter skated.
 

sportage

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OBVIOUSLY.... You don't know the mindset of the typical illegal i.e. non citizen.
THEY ARE SCARED TO DEATH.
Think about it....

Number one, they are here illegally. Scared they will be exposed, captured, and deported.
The VERY LAST THING they want to do is freaking VOTE, and thus risk exposing themselves to fraud and deportation.
REALLY? VOTE?
ARE YOU KIDDING?
You think the average illegal gives a shit about American politics?
REALLY?
Believe me, THEY DO NOT give a crap about politics OR our screwy politicians.
Especially to the point of risking their exposure to authorities.

My niece dated an illegal.
One time she had a fender bender with the car ahead of her.
Her illegal boyfriend was also in the car with her.
When the two cars collided, her illegal BF darted from the car and ran like a bat out of hell.
He knew the cops might show up, get involved, and the jig would be up..... for him.
So he darted, and ran away.
Later, after the fender bender excitement was over, my niece had to drive around the neighbors looking for her BF, and found him walking along the sidewalk several neighborhoods away.

So..... does anyone REALLY BELIEVE any illegal i.e. non citizen wants to risk it all just to VOTE????
What a crap load of bull shet.
And..... so F**king typical of Donald Trump and of his supporters to believe in their puny idiotic brains that illegal and non citizens EVER would give a shet about voting.
THEY DON'T. And they don't!

I swear.... some Americans WILL BELIEVE ANYTHING.
And thus explains WHY people like Donald Trump get elected......
Totally F**king amazing....
 

imported_tajmahal

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Jul 9, 2009
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He sounds like a great guy. I'm sure he'd never do anything illegal.

OBVIOUSLY.... You don't know the mindset of the typical illegal i.e. non citizen.
THEY ARE SCARED TO DEATH.
Think about it....

Number one, they are here illegally. Scared they will be exposed, captured, and deported.
The VERY LAST THING they want to do is freaking VOTE, and thus risk exposing themselves to fraud and deportation.
REALLY? VOTE?
ARE YOU KIDDING?
You think the average illegal gives a shit about American politics?
REALLY?
Believe me, THEY DO NOT give a crap about politics OR our screwy politicians.
Especially to the point of risking their exposure to authorities.

My niece dated an illegal.
One time she had a fender bender with the car ahead of her.
Her illegal boyfriend was also in the car with her.
When the two cars collided, her illegal BF darted from the car and ran like a bat out of hell.
He knew the cops might show up, get involved, and the jig would be up..... for him.
So he darted, and ran away.
Later, after the fender bender excitement was over, my niece had to drive around the neighbors looking for her BF, and found him walking along the sidewalk several neighborhoods away.

So..... does anyone REALLY BELIEVE any illegal i.e. non citizen wants to risk it all just to VOTE????
What a crap load of bull shet.
And..... so F**king typical of Donald Trump and of his supporters to believe in their puny idiotic brains that illegal and non citizens EVER would give a shet about voting.
THEY DON'T. And they don't!

I swear.... some Americans WILL BELIEVE ANYTHING.
And thus explains WHY people like Donald Trump get elected......
Totally F**king amazing....
 

Jhhnn

No Lifer
Nov 11, 1999
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He sounds like a great guy. I'm sure he'd never do anything illegal.
None of it means he'd be stupid enough to try to vote. It makes no sense whatsoever. Neither does the notion that Dems would want him to. It's scurrilous innuendo, the whole point of this brouhaha in the first place.
 

Vic

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How many mass mailers have Texas Republicans sent out that ended up going to non-citizens?
Oh wait.. we're not supposed to consider that because critical thinking is a crime in Taj's perfect world.
 

umbrella39

Lifer
Jun 11, 2004
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The GOP continues with their hey look a squirrel routine while working tirelessly to deny blacks votes...

Making America 1870 Again...
 

imported_tajmahal

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How many mass mailers have Texas Republicans sent out that ended up going to non-citizens?
Oh wait.. we're not supposed to consider that because critical thinking is a crime in Taj's perfect world.
You mean spam texts?


https://www.star-telegram.com/news/politics-government/election/article220344070.html

"A class action lawsuit filed against the Beto for Texas campaign claims the organization sent text messages to Texans without obtaining their permission, violating the Telephone Consumer Protection Act."
 

Jhhnn

No Lifer
Nov 11, 1999
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You mean spam texts?


https://www.star-telegram.com/news/politics-government/election/article220344070.html

"A class action lawsuit filed against the Beto for Texas campaign claims the organization sent text messages to Texans without obtaining their permission, violating the Telephone Consumer Protection Act."
Anybody can set up a robocall system about anything, even as a false flag campaign to rile up the Faithful, people like you.

Merely alleging that robocalls are illegal doesn't make it so, either-

https://consumeractionlawgroup.com/robocall-legal-illegal/
 

imported_tajmahal

Diamond Member
Jul 9, 2009
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It's almost as though the majority of Americans have left you behind.
Yes, kind of like the Republican majorities in the House, the Senate, the Presidency , a majority of Governors, a majority of state Houses and a majority of state Senates. ................ except for those, Yes, a majority posters in this forum and the media.
 

WHAMPOM

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No surprise to me, vote fraud is an ongoing issue in this country. Time to get serious about it and stop it.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/oct/18/texas-democrats-ask-noncitizens-register-vote/

"The Texas Democratic Party asked non-citizens to register to vote, sending out applications to immigrants with the box citizenship already checked “Yes,” according to new complaints filed Thursday asking prosecutors to see what laws may have been broken.

The Public Interest Legal Foundation alerted district attorneys and the federal Justice Department to the pre-checked applications, and also included a signed affidavit from a man who said some of his relatives, who aren’t citizens, received the mailing.

“This is how the Texas Democratic Party is inviting foreign influence in an election in a federal election cycle,” said Logan Churchwell, spokesman for the PILF, a group that’s made its mark policing states’ voter registration practices."

The Texas secretary of state’s office said it, too, had gotten complaints both from immigrants and from relatives of dead people who said they got mailings asking them to register.

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott vowed to investigate.

“If true there will be serious consequences,” he said.
The PILF publicly released complaints it sent to Hidalgo and Starr counties asking for an investigation. The organization also provided copies of pre-marked voter applications and the affidavit from the man who said his non-citizen relatives received the mailing.

The applications were pre-addressed to elections officials, which is likely what left many voters to believe they were receiving an official communication from the state.

But the return address was from the State Democratic Executive Committee, and listed an address in Austin that matches the state Democratic Party’s headquarters.

The letter is emblazoned with “Urgent! Your voter registration deadline is October 9.” It continues: “Your voter registration application is inside. Complete, sign and return it today!”

On the application, boxes affirming the applicant is both 18 and a U.S. citizen are already checked with an “X” in the Yes field.

The mailing also urges those who are unsure if they’re registered to “Mail it in.”

PILF has been pushing state election officials in recent years to be wary of non-citizens who manage to register and, in many cases, to actually cast ballots. The organization has found thousands of people who later admitted they weren’t citizens, but who managed to register or vote in New Jersey, Virginia, North Carolina and Pennsylvania

The organization is also embroiled in a legal battle with Harris County, Texas, which has declined to provide PILF with similar voter data.

PILF says usually the origin of non-citizens voting is motor vehicle bureaus, where people are pressed to register — and often ignore or miss the admonition that they must be citizens.

In this case, though, the invitations were sent directly by a political party.

The data from North Carolina suggests that non-citizens who vote skew decidedly Democratic, based on their pattern of voting in Democratic primaries.

The affidavit PILF provided to prosecutors Thursday is from David C. Kifuri Jr.

He said “several relatives” of his who are legal permanent residents but not citizens got the mailing, and were confused. He said in his affidavit he told them to report the mailing to local authorities and not to fill it out any further."
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/oct/18/texas-democrats-ask-noncitizens-register-vote/


Related story.
https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX

"A complaint says the Texas Democratic Party asked noncitizens to register to vote, sending applications with citizenship box pre-checked. This is being investigated. If true there will be serious consequences. #txlege #tcot #"

And on the same topic.
https://www.star-telegram.com/news/politics-government/election/article220105460.html

"State authorities now allege Sanchez, also known as Leticia Sanchez Pierce, was among four women being paid to target elderly voters in north Fort Worth in a scheme to harvest their ballots for specific 2016 candidates."
You do know voting and registration are two different thing, don't you?
 

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