Terrible news. Baby shot dead in Georgia

[SheHateMe]

When the teenager said he would shoot the baby in the head, what do you think he was thinking? To him, it was not dare to get her attention but a line that he would cross if this lady did not do what he asked. Why? Because she did not give him what he wanted and he wanted to punish her. He already stated what he would do and he did it. Simple. An older person would've succumbed to the woman's pleas for her child and felt empathy for her plight. A teenager has no such feelings because he does not have such experience. An older person may have just taken the lady's purse or whatever she had on her and called it a day, knowing full well that killing a child may have physical and psychological consequences for him later. But, to this teenager, it was a promise he intended to keep.

You may not like to hear this but it's true. Teenagers DO NOT have a developed brain. They don't think things through. I have a psychiatrist in my family who also told me this (he's a family psychiatrist). If they have a gun there is no reasoning with them. They will act. Of course, in a situation like this, if you know how they will behave, it is easy to manipulate them out of this. If I was in the same situation as the mother and the teenager said "I will shoot your child" then it's better to just fight them for the gun after you've manipulated their attention (no matter how long).

You're the same person that created a thread about how you were going to help your friend get rid of the unwanted child his mistress was carying.

Stop trying to play Dr. Phil. You're obviously not a teenager and you don't have a fully developed brain, so I don't think you are in a position to evaluate someone else's mental state.

 

[Dari]

Evil is because of the senselessness of the action. It's causing harm without first trying to prevent it, and because he literally had nothing to gain by doing this to a random stranger, but did it anyways.

I think that if a teenager like decides to break into a store, gets caught, panics and shoots, that's salvageable. But he simply killed...because he could.

Then a lot of things teenagers do can be categorized as such. Like those kids that were throwing frozen turkeys onto a highway and put the woman into a coma. I think there is a disconnect somewhere. To us, going to a stroller, looking into the stroller and seeing a baby there. Then taking your gun and shooting it point-blank. This may be senseless but I seriously doubt a person would do it if they had seriously thought about the consequences of what they are doing. I mean, look at the Nazis. They had to de-humanize their victims before killing them, thereby making it easier to accept. Many people consider them evil. To shoot a baby point-blank in the face means that there is also a serious disconnect there as well.

 

[Dari]

You're the same person that created a thread about how you were going to help your friend get rid of the unwanted child his mistress was carying.

Stop trying to play Dr. Phil. You're obviously not a teacher and you don't have a fully developed brain, so I don't think you are in a position to evaluate someone else's mental state.

Is that what I said in that thread, Japan-san? Really? Why don't you go back and read it and read what I said. Maybe it's popular to be stupid or ignorant around here...

 

[EagleKeeper]

i also gurantee the if this shithead is put in general pop, he will be killed.

This.


While those in prison may have done horrendous crimes; they also have some well defined moral codes on what is acceptable.

Murder & rape of young children fall into a special category.
Baby killers retain a high target ranking.

 

[desura]

Then a lot of things teenagers do can be categorized as such. Like those kids that were throwing frozen turkeys onto a highway and put the woman into a coma. I think there is a disconnect somewhere. To us, going to a stroller, looking into the stroller and seeing a baby there. Then taking your gun and shooting it point-blank. This may be senseless but I seriously doubt a person would do it if they had seriously thought about the consequences of what they are doing. I mean, look at the Nazis. They had to de-humanize their victims before killing them, thereby making it easier to accept. Many people consider them evil. To shoot a baby point-blank in the face means that there is also a serious disconnect there as well.

There's a healthy difference between pranking like throwing frozen turkeys on a highway and shooting someone in the leg and then killing a baby.

Healthy difference.

Consequences of throwing a frozen turkey on a highway isn't immediately obvious. Shooting someone is.

His mind isn't fully developed, sure, but compared to jsut about everyone else on the planet his age, he is at the bottom of the barrel.

Irredeemable. I don't want taxpayers paying for his meals the rest of his life.

 

[Dari]

There's a healthy difference between pranking like throwing frozen turkeys on a highway and shooting someone in the leg and then killing a baby.

Healthy difference.

Consequences of throwing a frozen turkey on a highway isn't immediately obvious. Shooting someone is.

His mind isn't fully developed, sure, but compared to jsut about everyone else on the planet his age, he is at the bottom of the barrel.

Irredeemable. I don't want taxpayers paying for his meals the rest of his life.

Whatever his/their crime, I think their parents should go to prison too for failing so hard.

 

[Retro Rob]

I cannot believe we have someone in this thread saying these cold-blooded killers could not have appreciated what they were doing.

When of them robs you and puts a gun to your kids' head, be sure to tell the cops not to arrest them. Heck, don't even report it. You should not have had your baby out with you during the middle of the day - it's all your fault for dangling the bait.

I'm sure they'll understand...

 

[nehalem256]

Guarantee the kid who did it comes from a shit family. Guaranteed.

Increased police presence, community youth outreach programs, school psychological testing...

Anyone want to place a bet on if he was raised by a single mother?

Seems like it would be pretty easy to prevent the real root cause :whiste:

 

[SheHateMe]

Anyone want to place a bet on if he was raised by a single mother?

Seems like it would be pretty easy to prevent the real root cause :whiste:

And killers couldn't possibly be raised in a two parent household...

:whiste:


More of your he-man woman haters club bullshit.

 

[Zodiark1593]

This.


While those in prison may have done horrendous crimes; they also have some well defined moral codes on what is acceptable.

Murder & rape of young children fall into a special category.
Baby killers retain a high target ranking.

They'll probably do the perp far worse than the needle. Unless the murders somehow get solitary confinement, they very likely won't last long.

 

[nextJin]

I was listening to CNN yesterday and they said the mothers story was filled with holes and tons of misinformation was coming from her.

I'm assuming she is just uneducated and didn't know wtf she was saying.

As for the criminals they were likely raised in liberal households. They won't make it out of prison alive but that doesn't bring back that child either.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I was listening to CNN yesterday and they said the mothers story was filled with holes and tons of misinformation was coming from her.

I'm assuming she is just uneducated and didn't know wtf she was saying.

As for the criminals they were likely raised in liberal households. They won't make it out of prison alive but that doesn't bring back that child either.

They weren't raised.

Honestly I'm glad people don't understand this. They'd really have to be part of a community where this mindset is an ordinary thing.

 

[Dari]

They weren't raised.

Honestly I'm glad people don't understand this. They'd really have to be part of a community where this mindset is an ordinary thing.

Really? What community is that where shooting babies point-blank "is an ordinary thing"?

 

[nextJin]

They weren't raised.

Honestly I'm glad people don't understand this. They'd really have to be part of a community where this mindset is an ordinary thing.

You mean a community that incites violence and a thug like mentality as part of entertainment and lifestyle?

I may be semi trolling but liberal households + rap music for youth + dense city environments = horrible disaster.

 

[Doppel]

I doubt the kid came from a liberal household anymore than a republican one. When I said the kid came from a crap family it was probably a distant one that has never shown much interest in him, that's why he's running around supposedly with a 5 year old in tow who "just wanted to do hood rat stuff".

 

[Broheim]

had those been my kids (hypothetically of course, i'll raise mine right) they would have never made it to the police station, I'd have beaten them to death the instant I found out what they had done.

 

[desura]

You mean a community that incites violence and a thug like mentality as part of entertainment and lifestyle?

I may be semi trolling but liberal households + rap music for youth + dense city environments = horrible disaster.

You have no idea what liberal really means. There are liberal values which I hope everyone has, but liberal or conservative you need order and discipline.

You don't see kids raised by hippies doing shit like this. He probably came from some poor uneducated drug addict. That's not liberal or conservative. It's just...degenerates.

 

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[Hayabusa Rider]

You mean a community that incites violence and a thug like mentality as part of entertainment and lifestyle?

I may be semi trolling but liberal households + rap music for youth + dense city environments = horrible disaster.

I'll give you a likely scenario.

The kids get up in the morning. There's no dad or he's an addict/drunk. There probably isn't one. Instead Mom found some guy and brought him home just like last night. Might be drugs, maybe not. She doesn't use contraceptives because when she gets knocked up she gets a bigger check. When she gets an STD and it bothers her enough she goes to the free clinic and gets meds. The kids? Yeah they live there. That's their parenting.

So little Jimmy gets little Johnny up. "Daddy" is the welfare check and moms going to use it mostly on herself. She might by junk food for her kids. Our two want money. They may need it. Maybe not, but they want it. There's a chance they go to school they can make drug connections or maybe find out who they can rob. But learning? You're shitting us man. We'd have to work and that's for fools. We'll grow up like everyone else and get a check and have some fun when we need more. So let's go have us some. Harold has a gun and if he's around we'll get that. If not a knife or pipe or a good heavy piece of rebar. Doesn't really matter. Hey that bitch has a kid. Kids need money so she has some and we want it.

No one around who is going to give us trouble. "Hey I bitch give us your money" and the rest of the conversation goes like you read about. In the end they don't get what they want, so the bitch has to pay and we're pissed off. So let's pay her back and shoot her. Oh yeah. Can't lose cred. We said we would shoot the kid. Ok he's dead, let's run and get some cereal and chips and watch some TV.

That's all there is.

 

[nextJin]

You have no idea what liberal really means. There are liberal values which I hope everyone has, but liberal or conservative you need order and discipline.

You don't see kids raised by hippies doing shit like this. He probably came from some poor uneducated drug addict. That's not liberal or conservative. It's just...degenerates.

I'll roll with the discussion,

Liberal as in entitlement, mixed with kerosene = this. Just because hippies don't doesn't mean shit. White conservative business owners also don't beat the hell out of their spouses with wife beater t shirts on w/ mustard stains.

 

[nehalem256]

And killers couldn't possibly be raised in a two parent household...

:whiste:


More of your he-man woman haters club bullshit.

Sorry if reality backs me up.

 

[desura]

I'll roll with the discussion,

Liberal as in entitlement, mixed with kerosene = this. Just because hippies don't doesn't mean shit. White conservative business owners also don't beat the hell out of their spouses with wife beater t shirts on w/ mustard stains.

yeah, you're a retard. Liberal values are all about viewing people as individuals with rights. Lots of conservatives actually call themselves "classical liberals."

You're going on ignore.

 

[boomerang]

Something doesn't pass the smell test in this case. I can't put my finger on it, but there is something off.

 

[desura]

Something doesn't pass the smell test in this case. I can't put my finger on it, but there is something off.

Same for me when viewing it and she said something about how she had lost another one of her sons or daughters.

But I mean...the only other explanation is that she hired him to shoot the baby. And shoot her.

And they did find him.

 

[boomerang]

Same for me when viewing it and she said something about how she had lost another one of her sons or daughters.

But I mean...the only other explanation is that she hired him to shoot the baby. And shoot her.

And they did find him.

The family is denying his involvement. There are no actual witnesses to the shooting only three 911 calls.

But there is something about her that strikes me as being very off. The shooting would have had to occur on location and I just can't imagine her shooting herself in the leg. How did she dispose of the gun? Maybe you're right and she hired it out. But if she did and she was smart, she'd point the finger at someone other than the person she hired.

I think we're going to find that she is mentally unbalanced and that it is related to the shooting death of her son years ago.

Or I'm wrong. Something is not right...