Teens pick wrong guy to rob - gets dead

[HomerJS]

You can actually see how he got a little hard just reading this story, can't you? That's the really scary part.

He's still cleaning the splooge off his monitor. For me watching a nice ass will do it but I guess we are all different.

 

[cubby1223]

To combat the false narrative that a teen is an innocent child and did not do nothing.

You really have become so fucking far removed from society.

Your claim in the other thread was that all teens are dangerous, not that some teens are dangerous.

Gosh dammit you can be so fucking stupid so frequently...

 

[z1ggy]

This.

There is no such thing as a "good shoot", only a justified shoot.

Only a sociopath would celebrate having to take another person's life.

This, word for word. Nobody, be it liberal, conservative, anti-gun or pro gun should ever get "excited" for a person's death. That's just sickening.

I agree though the sarg did the right thing. He gave up his wallet on command even though he had the means to shoot them before hand. Once the person brandished their weapon and pointed it at him, any reasonable person should believe their life is in imminent danger. Force at that point is justified.

 

[Geosurface]

The mod that banned him seems to disagree with you.

Unsurprising and not informative as to SA's intent.

What about saying you're glad he's removed from the genepool?

Guess how often white guys on LiveLeak say that about other white guys who died doing something stupid or criminal?

Only a sociopath would celebrate having to take another person's life.

Would you have celebrated Hitler's death?

 

[TheVrolok]

Would you have celebrated Hitler's death?

Godwin's. /thread

 

[TheVrolok]

This, word for word. Nobody, be it liberal, conservative, anti-gun or pro gun should ever get "excited" for a person's death. That's just sickening.

I hear this in my head every time I read a post like spidey's:

"No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. If a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friend's or of thine own were: any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee."

-John Donne

Some people will never "get it."

 

[Geosurface]

Godwin's. /thread

Godwin's Law deals with someone comparing someone else or their arguments to Nazis or Hitler.

I didn't compare anyone here to Hitler, I used Hitler as an example of someone whom most people would celebrate the death of (if they were alive when it happened, though they can certainly celebrate it even now, and do, see Inglorious Basterds?) - and if people would celebrate his death, then they cannot say that ever celebrating a death is automatic qualification for sociopathy, psychopathy, and horrible person status. Now can they?

I hear this in my head every time I read a post like spidey's:

"No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. If a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friend's or of thine own were: any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee."

-John Donne

Some people will never "get it."

Indeed, some people will never get it.

There are now over 7 billion people. Many of them ignorant, violent, superstitious savages. People who behead people over drugs in Mexico, or over religion in Arabia. People who cut the arms off young boys in Africa in the diamond trade, or put rubber tires full of gasoline around people from other African groups in Africa and light the gasoline on fire in what is called "necklacing" to enjoy watching them slowly burn to death. Nelson Mandela's wife was fond of this practice, FYI.

People who raid Boer farms remaining in Zimbabwe and rape, mutilate, and even scald a young boy of about 12 in a bathtub full of hot water to kill him, simply for their race.

These peoples' deaths do not diminish me or you or the world, they improve it.

And the planet itself buckles under the strain of so many human beings. Both the planet and humanity would be happier at 1 or 2 billion than 7+ and steadily rising.

 

[TheVrolok]

Godwin's Law deals with someone comparing someone else or their arguments to Nazis or Hitler.

I didn't compare anyone here to Hitler,

I stopped reading here, because honestly your posts don't warrant the attention.

Just wanted to point out that you, very clearly, compared someone to hitler.

MrPickins says, "Only a sociopath would celebrate having to take another person's life."

In this statement MrPickins is referring to a sociopath as spidey, and "another person" as the robber in the context of this thread.

You respond with, "Would you have celebrated Hitler's death?"

The comparison you are making here is the robber = Hitler. Maybe you don't realize it because it's patently absurd, nonetheless, you're doing it. You are suggesting a counter argument akin to "Well, why can't we celebrate the death of bad people?" to link the robber with bad person and then, in your logic, that it should be celebrated. It's called context.

Although I suppose I'm not surprised that you don't see it.

 

[Jaskalas]

You really have become so fucking far removed from society.

Your claim in the other thread was that all teens are dangerous, not that some teens are dangerous.

Gosh dammit you can be so fucking stupid so frequently...

He said that of teens to combat the false PR narrative that these are innocent little wallflower children. That being a teen somehow makes them less of a threat. That's a consistent drumbeat in these situations and people are going to push back and say something against it. Probably why the word thug comes into play, to depict that these are not innocent little children.

 

[soulcougher73]

Nice shot. One less bad person to worry about and saved tax payers money as well. Nice!

Teen asked for it, the Sergeant didnt ask for that situation.

 

[Vic]

I'm sure he's upset to have nearly died to an armed thug, but I'm sure he's very glad to have been armed and capable of defending himself. The happy ending is that the good guy lived, unharmed.

If someone points a gun at you, they forfeit their life.

Did I say anything differently than this? Please point it out then.

 

[Sonikku]

This wasn't a happy ending at all.



The guy didn't kill the other two whipper snapers. :'(

 

[cubby1223]

He said that of teens to combat the false PR narrative that these are innocent little wallflower children. That being a teen somehow makes them less of a threat. That's a consistent drumbeat in these situations and people are going to push back and say something against it. Probably why the word thug comes into play, to depict that these are not innocent little children.

It doesn't make what he said justified. When making statements about killing other people, especially with the enthusiasm he displays in his posts, one better be spot-on accurate with what is meant.

It is wrong to believe that all teens are innocent and should be protected by society.

It is wrong to believe all teens are a dangerous threat, because when you go out into the world with this kind of attitude, you make dumbass reactions and end up in jail like Dunn will be, along with a family on the other side torn apart from what I currently believe to be an unjustified death.



Sometimes your gun saves your life, sometimes your gun destroys your life. Dunn's gun destroyed his life, and ended the life of a non-threat. Life is all about percentages. Am I more likely with a gun to have it save my life, or destroy my life?

 

[moonbogg]

That cop was one hell of a quick draw and steady shot. Holy shit.

 

[soulcougher73]

I honestly don't understand this idea that because someone expresses concern and displeasure with the whole thug culture in American society of roaming around victimizing citizens, places of business, etc - that this makes them "racist" - simply because of the demographics within that thug culture being skewed in certain directions?

Look, newsflash: those of us who don't like this thug crap have no control over what races are going to be involved in the next news story which touches on it.

And if you think we wouldn't be concerned about these kind of extremely violent, society-eroding behaviors if they were being carried out exclusively by blonde white guys, think again. No matter who is doing this shit, it is extremely problematic for our country and it's entirely natural for it to piss people off. A lot of us have seen cities or neighborhood we grew up in which were perfectly safe at the time, turn into nests of this shit. How could that not irritate a person? Why would that require any sort of racism?

I fully admit I've said some stuff in the past which DID deserve to result in people yelling "racist!" at me, but good fucking lord, at this point all I have to do is comment on something which has any sort of connection real or perceived to black people, and I get that crap. And it's not just me, the same idiots who say it to me are saying it to people who don't have a posting history like I do!

And by the way, I don't think you can even see the races of the three assailants in that video... all I saw were hoods and large coats. I think I could tell the victim looked white, but not definitively. So why are racists assuming the three attackers were black?

This. It is not a race thing. Its a thug thing regardless of race. Not our fault most are black. If most were white it would still be a problem and id still say "good shot".

 

[z1ggy]

Godwin's Law deals with someone comparing someone else or their arguments to Nazis or Hitler.

I didn't compare anyone here to Hitler, I used Hitler as an example of someone whom most people would celebrate the death of (if they were alive when it happened, though they can certainly celebrate it even now, and do, see Inglorious Basterds?) - and if people would celebrate his death, then they cannot say that ever celebrating a death is automatic qualification for sociopathy, psychopathy, and horrible person status. Now can they?



Indeed, some people will never get it.

There are now over 7 billion people. Many of them ignorant, violent, superstitious savages. People who behead people over drugs in Mexico, or over religion in Arabia. People who cut the arms off young boys in Africa in the diamond trade, or put rubber tires full of gasoline around people from other African groups in Africa and light the gasoline on fire in what is called "necklacing" to enjoy watching them slowly burn to death. Nelson Mandela's wife was fond of this practice, FYI.

People who raid Boer farms remaining in Zimbabwe and rape, mutilate, and even scald a young boy of about 12 in a bathtub full of hot water to kill him, simply for their race.

These peoples' deaths do not diminish me or you or the world, they improve it.

And the planet itself buckles under the strain of so many human beings. Both the planet and humanity would be happier at 1 or 2 billion than 7+ and steadily rising.

Maybe the world would be better off with out people such as the one's you've described above. Hell, maybe they even deserve to die for their actions. But should I, or any reasonable person become excited or aroused at the thought of their demise? I don't think so. It's more of a, "Oh.. Good. I suppose he deserved that." then you move on with your life.

 

[soulcougher73]

A "happy" ending is when a kid dies. What a caveman mentality.

No. The "happy ending" is the victim isnt dead, the attacker is. Why do you care more for the attacker then the victim? WTF is wrong with you?

 

[Geosurface]

I stopped reading

Of course you did, you realized I was refuting you.

The comparison you are making here is the robber = Hitler.

No, you are incorrect.

Multiple people were saying that UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES EVER AT ALL was it appropriate to celebrate the death of another human being. That anyone who did so would be a sociopath, etc.

I was not comparing the robber or anyone else to Hitler, I was trying to come up with an example of a human being who the very people who were saying that would most likely celebrate the death of.

Because if I can come up with even one human being they'd celebrate the death of, then a flaw in their statement is illuminated and their hypocrisy exposed.

I don't see anything in common between Hitler and a common street thug.

 

[Geosurface]

No. The "happy ending" is the victim isnt dead, the attacker is. Why do you care more for the attacker then the victim? WTF is wrong with you?

And the problem with the attacker living is he can and will victimize someone again almost definitely. And/or soak up massive amounts of taxpayer money in a prison, or out of one.

People like that bring nothing positive to society, and bring a great infusion of negative shit into it.

 

[cubby1223]

That's what's weird about the liberals - the liberal friends I have actually held a party in celebration of Reagan's death a few years ago.

Whether to celebrate or mourn death is completely arbitrary.

I tend to believe most Americans were excited and joyful when Osama Bin Laden was killed.

 

[cubby1223]

And the problem with the attacker living is he can and will victimize someone again almost definitely. And/or soak up massive amounts of taxpayer money in a prison, or out of one.

People like that bring nothing positive to society, and bring a great infusion of negative shit into it.

So you will go to extreme lengths to give the white person who did shoot a not-threat dead every possible benefit of the doubt...

But when it comes to a dark person you refuse to give even an ounce of benefit of the doubt that he can be a better person in the future, and believe the best course of action is to shoot him dead and be rid of him forever?

In the other thread, Dunn was the attacker, and you desire his life and his freedom protected...

I mean, wow...

 

[Incorruptible]

The sergeant had every right to defend himself and did what was necessary to protect his life. There really isn't much compassion for the teen since what he did was completely moronic.

But I don't get how the OP is so giddy over this, the officer did what he had to do and I don't think he is happy that he killed the teen but WTF is wrong with the OP?

 

[theeedude]

A stupid kid getting killed is not a happy ending. It may be better than an innocent victim being killed, but it's still a failure on society's part that it got to that point.

 

[moonbogg]

The dead guy was a thug, and we are better off without him, but I don't think it was his fault he was a thug. Not like that matters at this point, but just saying.

 

[Vic]

That's what's weird about the liberals - the liberal friends I have actually held a party in celebration of Reagan's death a few years ago.

Whether to celebrate or mourn death is completely arbitrary.

I tend to believe most Americans were excited and joyful when Osama Bin Laden was killed.

I don't approve of your friends celebration of Reagans death. I disagreed with him on many issues, but he was still a good man and a strong leader. Hell, if the Republicans could bring back that optimism of his, I'd vote for them.

And as I had wanted bin Laden to be brought back to face trial for his crimes, I was a bit disappointed at his death.