SpatiallyAware
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Odd that she didn't have a lawyer present. I wonder if her and Dunn are still together.
Odd that she didn't have a lawyer present. I wonder if her and Dunn are still together.
HumblePie
Lifer
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The red durango left the gas station. Drove to a nearby strip mall in front of JCPenny. The driver Tommie Storms, and the passenger on the drivers side in the front both got out. Witness testimony from across the parking lot says they saw Tommie circling the car but didn't see anything in his hands. The witness stated the 2nd passenger to exit the vehicle had a cell phone in his hands and was talking on it.
The witness said after Tommie had made a pass around the car, stopped by the back door, both him and the other passenger to exit the vehicle got back in and drove back towards the gas station.
If a weapon or weapon like object had been dumped it would have happened between the gas station and the strip mall parking lot. Who the 2nd passenger was calling at the time is evidence we don't have yet. At some point they were on the phone with 911. They all stated that. I'm hoping that phone record evidence will show if that was the only communications made by those in the red durango or if they called someone else. Those phone records are going to be key. If those in the red durango had a weapon or a weapon like object and they dumped it, they would have needed to call someone to come pick it up before police could come to the scene and find it.
soundforbjt
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mugs
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HumblePie
Lifer
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No, the police saw the durango coming back to the gas station. Never saw it leave nor where it was stopped at before coming back. That is in the police reports.
SpatiallyAware
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I see that the misinformation campaign is already ramping up.... No huge surprise, I suppose.
Basically this entire situation revolves around that shotgun. If it's determined that the felon thug crew only called 911 then the case could go either way. Personally, I think the simple fact that the left the scene and circled a parking lot after someone was shot (and after the shooter and supposed danger had already left.......) in a very busy area speaks volumes, no matter who they called.
I can't fathom why they would possibly leave, go circle a parking lot, then return to the scene unless they were ditching a gun. In a jury of 12 (or 6) you know that there are going to be at least a couple of logical thinkers who will put 2 and 2 together.
Basically this entire situation revolves around that shotgun. If it's determined that the felon thug crew only called 911 then the case could go either way. Personally, I think the simple fact that the left the scene and circled a parking lot after someone was shot (and after the shooter and supposed danger had already left.......) in a very busy area speaks volumes, no matter who they called.
I can't fathom why they would possibly leave, go circle a parking lot, then return to the scene unless they were ditching a gun. In a jury of 12 (or 6) you know that there are going to be at least a couple of logical thinkers who will put 2 and 2 together.
mugs
Lifer
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I think a jury of 12 will think it's entirely reasonable for them to flee the parking lot considering that Dunn got out of his car and continued shooting at them as they left.
IIRC they got out to check for damage, then realized that Davis had been shot so they returned to the scene of the homicide and waited for police/ambulance.
There was nothing illogical about what they did. It's not like they homicided someone and then went to a hotel and ordered pizza without telling anyone. That would be a silly thing to do. No, the victims acted entirely reasonably.
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SheHateMe
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Even "IF" the gun theory was true did that give a reason for confronting someone at a gas station because you didn't like rap music?. If one had to endure (as in live next to) someone and this was a constant annoyance that's a different story, but a gas station?, what are we talking about here 5 min. max?, oh the horror!. Face it, the dude shot someone and hauled ass, he will be convicted and rightfully so, but we know your happy, at least one "thug" died so it's all good..
Capt Caveman
Lifer
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The only one spreading misinformation is you. You have provided zero facts and only speculated due to the color of the skin of these teenagers.
soundforbjt
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http://www.actionnewsjax.com/conten...llars-for-defense/2kfFU5-V7kigoand6W75Bw.cspx
Score one for the taxpayers!
HomerJS
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Actually this entire situation revolves around whitey doesn't like loud negro music and decides "I gotta do something about it even though I'm only going to be here for a few minutes"
Don't forget he fled the scene and had to be identified by his car tag #, if it was a case of rightfully defending himself why would he not wait at the scene for the police to arrive so he could give a deposition, answer questions, ect?, I'll answer that for you, HE WAS AN ANGRY, DRUNK, INTOLERABLE ASSHOLE, that's why he fled the scene..
soundforbjt
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waggy
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wow. sounds like the judge had a major bias. but at least she seen that and recussed herself.
thraashman
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Dr. Zaus
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In his opinion if there is a general fact about a group that is true this should be used as a heuristic in ambiguous cases regarding the specific individual. In my opinion there's no escaping this formulation of how to deal with every day life though a logical error to be overcome.
In his opinion people constantly ignore this formulation of how to deal with everyday life, despite it providing reasonable evidence.
Damn, all he had to do was mind his own business that day and his life would be normal today. But he had to go and make a show. Something tells me that this guy has always been like this and it has caught up with him. I wonder if he kicks himself everyday for not doing things differently. This should be a lesson to everyone to think before you act...
Wonder if the thug who pointed a gun at him wishes he had acted differently?
Let's ask him.
<gurgle, gurgle>
<crickets>
The old saying goes - Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
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Sorry, I haven't been keeping up with this thread or the story. It has been confirmed that someone in the truck had a gun?
QueBert
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They were black, so yes they had a gun, and yes the pointed it at Dunn even though all he did was politely ask them to please lower the volume of their music.
Capt Caveman
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Oh, so nothing new has emerged to get Dunn off the hook for this murder. The post by Spidey was just him being his usual racist self...
SpatiallyAware
Lifer
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My issue revolves around the fact that this is a situation between a businessman with no current history who claims that a group of young men who run with felons pointed a shotgun at him.
The felon thug crew were seen leaving the parking lot after the elderly businessman went running in fear of his life. They had no reason to leave.
Not only that, but they went and circled a parking lot before returning to the scene of the crime, which I cannot logically understand unless they were dumping a gun.
I understand that the businessguy went, ordered pizza, all that.. But I listened to the wife's interview and I can understand why that all happened the way it did without it being anything other than self defense.
I'm not saying he's a good guy, but legally and morally based on what we currently know he hasn't done anything wrong.
I am basing my opinion only on logic and currently known facts.
I will say it's interesting that the race brigadiers keep focusing on the rap/black thing, when lots of other races listen to rap too.
The felon thug crew could be light beige to african black for all I care, and I would still feel the same way about it. Same for the businessguy.
The felon thug crew were seen leaving the parking lot after the elderly businessman went running in fear of his life. They had no reason to leave.
Not only that, but they went and circled a parking lot before returning to the scene of the crime, which I cannot logically understand unless they were dumping a gun.
I understand that the businessguy went, ordered pizza, all that.. But I listened to the wife's interview and I can understand why that all happened the way it did without it being anything other than self defense.
I'm not saying he's a good guy, but legally and morally based on what we currently know he hasn't done anything wrong.
I am basing my opinion only on logic and currently known facts.
I will say it's interesting that the race brigadiers keep focusing on the rap/black thing, when lots of other races listen to rap too.
The felon thug crew could be light beige to african black for all I care, and I would still feel the same way about it. Same for the businessguy.
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