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Syria Provides Weapons To Hezbolla, UNIFIL Afraid of the Dark

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imported_dna

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UN Admits Syria Arming Hizbullah, UNIFIL Takes Nights Off:
UNIFIL commanders were interviewed by the paper, saying their function is to "observe changes in the behavior of the local population," with Spanish UNIFIL official Richard Ortax admitting that no patrols are carried out at night ?because of the danger involved.?

One junior officer told Der Spiegel he was glad that his battalion only left their camp once. "It's absurd," he said. "We landed here and set up our tent city, but since then we've only left the camp to drive around and to make sure that we're seen."
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Did anybody doubt that it will come to this?

Well done, Kofi -- now Hezbollah can rearm under the auspicese of the UN.

Ok guys, mark April 2007 in your calendar: Lebanon war, take two,
 
Nice. Leave it to the UN to solve all the worlds problems.

The problem is that Lebonon part 2 will take place with more UN people in the way and a greater change that some of them will end up getting killed again.

Hopefully Israel can get rid of its weak leadership before round 2 and then go in the way they should have gone in this time.
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Nice. Leave it to the UN to solve all the worlds problems.

The problem is that Lebonon part 2 will take place with more UN people in the way and a greater change that some of them will end up getting killed again.

Hopefully Israel can get rid of its weak leadership before round 2 and then go in the way they should have gone in this time.
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Their leadership was not weak when attacking Lebanon the first time around.

You seem to favor invasion with carpet bombings. Make things easier.
 
I guess we have to send US troops in, since UN is not cutting the mustard. Oh wait, we already tried that in the 80s and got our collective @ss handed to us by the terrorists.
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
You seem to favor invasion with carpet bombings. Make things easier.
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They should've carpet bombed during the first round; destroy their logistic network.

Yeah, that's right: collective punishment and all that.

No need to be squeemish: Hezbollah and Hamas carry out collective punishment all the time.
 
The next time around will be much worse, trust me... you can almost guarantee that Syria and Iran will be dragged directly into the fight.

Maybe then the world will finally admit that those two nations sponsor terrorism. It seems that fact is too often cast aside in some ridiculous PC attempt to justify their very existance.
 
UN is scum. Taif Accords, and resolutions 1559 & 1680 all call for disarm Hezbollah. Guess they rather disarm africans so they can be slaughtered by millions.
http://reason.com/news/show/36875.html ..when they not are forgetting about them entirly..Rawanda..Sudan etc.. too occupied with Israel I guess.
 
Originally posted by: dna
Originally posted by: Aimster
You seem to favor invasion with carpet bombings. Make things easier.
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They should've carpet bombed during the first round; destroy their logistic network.

Yeah, that's right: collective punishment and all that.

No need to be squeemish: Hezbollah and Hamas carry out collective punishment all the time.
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carpet bombing is barbaric.

It kills civilians.

But 10,000 dead civilians is better than 100 dead soldiers ...
 
Originally posted by: myocardia
Originally posted by: Aimster
carpet bombing is barbaric.

It kills civilians.
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Oh, and the terrorists, and for that matter, their governments, don't?
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terrorists? govts?
Nobody is carpet bombing Israel or even coming close to carpet bombing Israel.

I have an idea. Move into a bad neighborhood where crime is high. we will just bomb the entire neighborhood to pieces to solve the problem. But.. youre innocent..
 
Question for the right: how are you going to hold our nation accountable for arming the Contra terrorists illegally before you are allowed to say one more word about any other nation's actions - or admit that you have a double standard that we can support terrorism all we like, and attack others for doing the same thing we do?
 
Originally posted by: dna
UN Admits Syria Arming Hizbullah, UNIFIL Takes Nights Off:
UNIFIL commanders were interviewed by the paper, saying their function is to "observe changes in the behavior of the local population," with Spanish UNIFIL official Richard Ortax admitting that no patrols are carried out at night ?because of the danger involved.?

One junior officer told Der Spiegel he was glad that his battalion only left their camp once. "It's absurd," he said. "We landed here and set up our tent city, but since then we've only left the camp to drive around and to make sure that we're seen."
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Did anybody doubt that it will come to this?

Well done, Kofi -- now Hezbollah can rearm under the auspicese of the UN.

Ok guys, mark April 2007 in your calendar: Lebanon war, take two,
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The UN's entire response was for the protection of Lebanon and Hezbollah from Israel. Disarming them was never considered, by the UN, to be part of anything they cared about doing. The suffering caused by this continued war is on the UN?s hands. They never should have stopped Israel from annihilating them.
 
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: dna
UN Admits Syria Arming Hizbullah, UNIFIL Takes Nights Off:
UNIFIL commanders were interviewed by the paper, saying their function is to "observe changes in the behavior of the local population," with Spanish UNIFIL official Richard Ortax admitting that no patrols are carried out at night ?because of the danger involved.?

One junior officer told Der Spiegel he was glad that his battalion only left their camp once. "It's absurd," he said. "We landed here and set up our tent city, but since then we've only left the camp to drive around and to make sure that we're seen."
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Did anybody doubt that it will come to this?

Well done, Kofi -- now Hezbollah can rearm under the auspicese of the UN.

Ok guys, mark April 2007 in your calendar: Lebanon war, take two,
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The UN's entire response was for the protection of Lebanon and Hezbollah from Israel. Disarming them was never considered, by the UN, to be part of anything they cared about doing. The suffering caused by this continued war is on the UN?s hands. They never should have stopped Israel from annihilating them.
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Israel stopped themselves
UN did not stop Israel's mission.

Israel's forces were not prepared for an invasion of Lebanon. They had to stop the invasion and rethink their strategy.

Israel does not listen to the UN that much. I dont think they have much respect for the UN.
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: dna
UN Admits Syria Arming Hizbullah, UNIFIL Takes Nights Off:
UNIFIL commanders were interviewed by the paper, saying their function is to "observe changes in the behavior of the local population," with Spanish UNIFIL official Richard Ortax admitting that no patrols are carried out at night ?because of the danger involved.?

One junior officer told Der Spiegel he was glad that his battalion only left their camp once. "It's absurd," he said. "We landed here and set up our tent city, but since then we've only left the camp to drive around and to make sure that we're seen."
Click to expand...


Did anybody doubt that it will come to this?

Well done, Kofi -- now Hezbollah can rearm under the auspicese of the UN.

Ok guys, mark April 2007 in your calendar: Lebanon war, take two,
Click to expand...

The UN's entire response was for the protection of Lebanon and Hezbollah from Israel. Disarming them was never considered, by the UN, to be part of anything they cared about doing. The suffering caused by this continued war is on the UN?s hands. They never should have stopped Israel from annihilating them.
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Israel stopped themselves
UN did not stop Israel's mission.

Israel's forces were not prepared for an invasion of Lebanon. They had to stop the invasion and rethink their strategy.

Israel does not listen to the UN that much. I dont think they have much respect for the UN.
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They shouldn't respect an organization that is hell bent on stopping them alone. I know I wouldn't.

As for Lebanon, we both witnessed the same war coverage earlier this year. The UN's ordered cease fire caused a cease fire under certain pretenses. We're still waiting on that mission to be fulfilled and the threats on both sides to be removed. The UN has violated that cease fire by failing to control either Israel or Hezbollah.

The only thing the UN accomplishes in the Middle East is delaying Israel from defeating its enemies.
 
Uhm people. look at the map. Where are the UNIFIL troops stationed and where is the Syran-Lebanese border? UNIFIL is here to prevent weapon movements in the South...

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: dna
UN Admits Syria Arming Hizbullah, UNIFIL Takes Nights Off:
UNIFIL commanders were interviewed by the paper, saying their function is to "observe changes in the behavior of the local population," with Spanish UNIFIL official Richard Ortax admitting that no patrols are carried out at night ?because of the danger involved.?

One junior officer told Der Spiegel he was glad that his battalion only left their camp once. "It's absurd," he said. "We landed here and set up our tent city, but since then we've only left the camp to drive around and to make sure that we're seen."
Click to expand...


Did anybody doubt that it will come to this?

Well done, Kofi -- now Hezbollah can rearm under the auspicese of the UN.

Ok guys, mark April 2007 in your calendar: Lebanon war, take two,
Click to expand...

The UN's entire response was for the protection of Lebanon and Hezbollah from Israel. Disarming them was never considered, by the UN, to be part of anything they cared about doing. The suffering caused by this continued war is on the UN?s hands. They never should have stopped Israel from annihilating them.
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Not the UN stopped Israel's offensive, it was a mix of strategical and political Israeli considerations, US influence and problems on the homefront.
 
Originally posted by: Craig234
Question for the right: how are you going to hold our nation accountable for arming the Contra terrorists illegally before you are allowed to say one more word about any other nation's actions - or admit that you have a double standard that we can support terrorism all we like, and attack others for doing the same thing we do?
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1) since you've forgotten, and quite often love to say otherwise, let me remind you: we are the good guys. I know I know, you think we're the scum of the earth... but you're wrong.

2) When we interfere in the politics of other nations, we do so in an attempt to sway the situation in a difection that is favorable to our interests.

3) Iran and Syria are very nearly our sworn enemies, along with NK. Therefore, when they try to sway other countries in a direction favorable to themselves, it will also most likely be a direction which is the opposite of what may benefit or favor the U.S. These "Proxy Battles" they fight against the US are only one step removed from fighting us directly.

4) Try, for once, to remember what side you are on. Our enemies do not respect the rules of law such as the GC's, or other rules imposed by the UN. They could care less about everything that we believe in. They won't hesitate to carpet-bomb, if they could, or behead our brave soldiers on live TV. They (including Hezbollah, Iran, Syria, and NK) will do whatever it takes to damage the U.S. So maybe, just maybe, you can stop blaming us for everything our enemies do. Maybe you can get off of your PC highhorse and recognize the need to prevail against the enmeies of the U.S. That means destroying those who are trying to destroy us. Trying to appease them forever is pointless as it just postpones the inevitable and allows them to strengthen their forces which are constantly being shifted into place against us.

bah... for one g'damn time I wish some of you would remember whose side you're on. Why do you hate America and our military so much?
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
carpet bombing is barbaric.

It kills civilians.

But 10,000 dead civilians is better than 100 dead soldiers ...
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Civilians left the south, in case you have forgotten, so stop lamenting over hypothetical estimates.

Also, 4,000+ rockets (probably much more) are just as barbaric and akin to carpet bombing; had the rockets been more accurate, they would have devestated entire neighborhoods.

For the record, Israel was pressured to stop its offensive after the Hezbollah put on a show in Qana, with the media more than happy to be their b!tch, and present all those staged photos to the whole world. Israel also screwed up on the ground offensive, but if they were not pressured to halt, perhaps they would have been able to get their act togather.
 
Originally posted by: dna
Originally posted by: Aimster
carpet bombing is barbaric.

It kills civilians.

But 10,000 dead civilians is better than 100 dead soldiers ...
Click to expand...

Civilians left the south, in case you have forgotten, so stop lamenting over hypothetical estimates.

Also, 4,000+ rockets (probably much more) are just as barbaric and akin to carpet bombing; had the rockets been more accurate, they would have devestated entire neighborhoods.

For the record, Israel was pressured to stop its offensive after the Hezbollah put on a show in Qana, with the media more than happy to be their b!tch, and present all those staged photos to the whole world. Israel also screwed up on the ground offensive, but if they were not pressured to halt, perhaps they would have been able to get their act togather.
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not all the civilians left the south.

If the U.S was under attack from the East, you are telling me all the civilians would flee?

Where the hell would they go? hotels? Not enough hotels.
family? Not everyone has family
transportation? Not everyone has transportation
money? Not everyone has money

Look at the South of the U.S when a hurricane is going straight for them. Does everyone leave? NO.

Come on use common sense.

Israel was not pressured to do anything. They were losing troops faster than they expected. Their tanks were getting hit and taken out. The number of rockets coming from inside Lebanon was in fact increasing not decreasing.

Israel would have continued to face losses even up to this day had they continued the war.
To say they wouldnt would be like Bush going on the aircraft carrier and saying "Mission Accomplished".
 
"bah... for one g'damn time I wish some of you would remember whose side you're on. Why do you hate America and our military so much?"

Uhh, *Our* military? Are you now claiming that Israel and the US are one and the same?

Having identified the lameness inherent in that comment, maybe readers can move on to recognize the usual religio-racist israeli agitprop driving the rest of the wingnut comments, above...

The Bushistas claim to be friends of the fledgling Lebanese govt, too, yet arm Israel with the means to destroy Lebanese infrastructure, kill civilians, and mine Lebanese territory with unexploded cluster munitions... sit back and wring their hands in mock horror as it happens...

Somebody's talking out of both sides of their mouths at the same time, and that would be the Bushistas and the Israelis...
 
For those in the USA, who live in a dream world, and are (in some part) victims of a lame news media not doing it's job -- here are the words of Hassan Nasrallah (full text, video):
We consider it [the American administration] to be an enemy because it wants to humiliate our governments, our regimes, and our peoples. Because it is the greatest plunderer of our treasures, our oil, and our resources, while millions in our nation suffer unemployment, poverty, hunger, unmarriageability, ignorance, darkness, and so on. America? This American administration is an enemy. Our motto, which we are not afraid to repeat year after year, is: "Death to America."
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Notice how he blames the USA for every little problem in their society -- they have no control over their life. Now imagine how many children grow up, indoctrinated with this philosophy that an outsider is responsible for any hardship they face -- you didn't really think that all those "social services" came with no strings attached, did you?
 
Originally posted by: Jhhnn
The Bushistas claim to be friends of the fledgling Lebanese govt, too, yet arm Israel with the means to destroy Lebanese infrastructure, kill civilians, and mine Lebanese territory with unexploded cluster munitions... sit back and wring their hands in mock horror as it happens...
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We give aid and weapons to Israel for them to use as they see fit in order to defend themselves. It's not our fault, nor Israel's, that Lebanon allows a paramilitary/terrorist organization to run their country and consistently attack Israel from Lebanon's populated urban villages and cities.

Let me repeat: we did/do not arm and aid Israel to attack Lebanon specifically. If Lebanon cleared out and/or disarmed Hezbollah, then Israel would not need to use our weapons against Lebanese territories. See how that works?

Uhh, *Our* military? Are you now claiming that Israel and the US are one and the same?
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my response referred to Craig's mention of our military's participation in insurgencies, such as the Contras back in the 80's. He equated it to Iran and Syria's support of the terrorists who attack Israel. In other words, he forgot whose side we're on., and why. So please read and try to keep up from now on.
 
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