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[kaerflog]

I'm an 80% Android user now and I still like the iPhone keyboard better.
The accuracy and sensitiveness is still better.
It seems at times, the keyboard lag behind my typing a bit.
I think the problem isn't the keyboard but with Android.

 

[ponyo]

I'm an 80% Android user now and I still like the iPhone keyboard better.
The accuracy and sensitiveness is still better.
It seems at times, the keyboard lag behind my typing a bit.
I think the problem isn't the keyboard but with Android.

No, The problem is you.

 

[DefRef]

Yep, they just shoved an update to the app which forces a language pack update. Update the app and the manual steps shouldn't be necessary.

 

[kaerflog]

No, The problem is you.

Thats funny.
Unlike most people in this forum, I've used both platform on a regular basis so I can make comments objectively, unlike yourself.
I've gone from HD2>3GS>G2>Vibrant>IP4>G2x>GS2>IP4 again>One S.
Yeah, I think the problem isn't me.

 

[QueBert]

No, The problem is you.

It's actually a ymmv thing, but I agree with him. Most people I know who've extensively used both like the iPhone keyboard better than any Android one. The fact even with my fat fingers I can type faster and more accurately on a 3.5" iPhone over my 5.3" Galaxy Note tells me something. If it was just a matter of just creating an app, there would be a clone of the iPhone keyboard in the Play store. The fact there isn't tells me there's something about Android that makes it impossible. I literally would pay $30 for the exact iPhone keyboard on my Note. And the problem isn't me I've owned 4 Android phones and used about a dozen other different ones. It's always the same thing with the keyboard situation.

 

[kaerflog]

It's actually a ymmv thing, but I agree with him. Most people I know who've extensively used both like the iPhone keyboard better than any Android one. The fact even with my fat fingers I can type faster and more accurately on a 3.5" iPhone over my 5.3" Galaxy Note tells me something. If it was just a matter of just creating an app, there would be a clone of the iPhone keyboard in the Play store. The fact there isn't tells me there's something about Android that makes it impossible. I literally would pay $30 for the exact iPhone keyboard on my Note. And the problem isn't me I've owned 4 Android phones and used about a dozen other different ones. It's always the same thing with the keyboard situation.

Someone is actually thinking along the same line as I am.
I have not found an Android keyboard that has the same responsiveness as an iPhone keyboard.
I have not own a WP7 phone but have played with it many times and the responsiveness on WP7 seems equal to iOS.
This leads me to believe the problem is Android.
There is just a tiny bit of lag when you are pressing the keys.
This LAG was unbearable with the SG1 and I wanted to throw it way at times.
It seems that as the SOCs gotten faster, that lag is almost gone.
What makes Android keyboards better is the customization and prediction.
I know I went off track a little as Swiftkey is by far the best keyboard for Android but I was merely making a comparison.

 

[WelshBloke]

Someone is actually thinking along the same line as I am.
I have not found an Android keyboard that has the same responsiveness as an iPhone keyboard.
I have not own a WP7 phone but have played with it many times and the responsiveness on WP7 seems equal to iOS.
This leads me to believe the problem is Android.
There is just a tiny bit of lag when you are pressing the keys.
This LAG was unbearable with the SG1 and I wanted to throw it way at times.
It seems that as the SOCs gotten faster, that lag is almost gone.
What makes Android keyboards better is the customization and prediction.
I know I went off track a little as Swiftkey is by far the best keyboard for Android but I was merely making a comparison.

That's pretty ironic as some one of the speed record texters used a SG1.

 

[ponyo]

Thats funny.
Unlike most people in this forum, I've used both platform on a regular basis so I can make comments objectively, unlike yourself.
I've gone from HD2>3GS>G2>Vibrant>IP4>G2x>GS2>IP4 again>One S.
Yeah, I think the problem isn't me.

Your preference and bias is Apple. Nothing wrong with that. The only reason you're using Android is because T-Mobile doesn't support 3g data for the iPhone. The fact you would actually put up with the slow 2g EDGE speed and use the iPhone on T-Mobile is very telling. Maybe the Sense keyboard on the One S just sucks. The reviews I've read wasn't all that positive. Or maybe you just don't like Android keyboards and it's not for you. Which is fine because people like different things. But to say it's problem with Android is very ignorant. Your preference is not universal and based on any fact.

I think Apple keyboard is very good and was the best for a long time. But Android has caught up and the ICS keyboard on the Galaxy Nexus is very good. I'm even liking Swiftkey 3 even though I was never big fan of the Swiftkey before. I have the latest iPod Touch in the house along with iPad 1&2. I have no problem using Apple keyboard even though I prefer the GNex ICS keyboard. There are others who prefer Swype, Swiftkey, etc. We don't go around saying there's problem with iOS because we prefer certain Android keyboard over Apple.

 

[OVerLoRDI]

Swift Key X is what made touch screen typing usable for me. I absolutely hated the stock android keyboard (still hate touch screen typing in general) but Swift key X really made life a lot better.

One of my favorite things to do is to just start typing a text response by selecting the first suggested word and continue to do that until it loops. The results are usually pretty amusing.


Currently:
"I am in a serious slump in my gaming. This wasn't a problem last quarter as I had lots of school work. But this quarter is much more laid back so far. Not interested in MMOs, I don't care for the stock cooler, but a single peen shaped water block would work nicely. The only concern here is that they might skimp out of the small things thus reducing overclocking potential."

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

You can, just use a different keyboard if you dont like it.

Fair enough.

No there isnt, if there was we wouldnt be having this discussion.

I think there is a reason why keyboards are designed the way there are. There's absolutely nothing wrong with introducing a new way to type. If you go to most offices, you will expect a certain standard keyboard. You can go request ergonomic keyboards, and now they have those weird keybaords where you type sideways.

But nevertheless, there's a standard people expect. Just like if you hand an average user a keyboard, they expect to be able to type a certain way. That is the way that iOS, stock Android, WP7, and every other OS has worked.

I think it's why Swype included a tapping form. When you hand your phone off to an average user, they have some expectation of how keyboards work.

Isnt that what you have done with the preference for the numbers on the top row?

Perhaps, but my preference happens to be how every other keyboard including popular 3rd party options like Swype, work. So yeah, I think I'm somewhat justified in saying that catering to how 95% of people type on mobile keyboards is somewhat important.

I guess what gets me is that there's a standard way to type. Google botched things with its horrible keyboards in early Android and offering poor autocorrection, poor prediction, and in general a terrible keyboard. There was no multi touch til the Gingerbread keyboard. If you read Anand's reviews or other GB reviews they acted like the GB keyboard was a night and day revolution with improved prediction. But all that was blown out of the water by the ICS keyboard.

Even now, I would say the prediction and correction is still below where iOS is. Because we have such a poor tapping keyboard, people have created much better tapping keyboards. Look at SmartKeyboard Pro, which is probably the most powerful and customizable yet great tapping keyboard out there that is designed to be an upgrade to the STANDARD keyboard. BetterKeyboard does well.

Then you have people who capitalize on Android's horrible keyboard and created new ways of typing: 8Pen, Swype, Swiftkey, etc. They want to change the way you type supposedly. Each of them realized that you can't just force people onto a whole revolutionary way completely, and came back to terms with offering a normal typing method--Swype opened up to allow tapping, and Swiftkey X offered an option to rely on prediction and also do fast tapping.

I think what I'm saying is there's a reason typing has stayed the same for years and years. It's a tried and true method. You can argue your new revolutionary method might be better for you, but I can assure you people can type well if the keyboard was well made with a standard layout. People act like this new revolutionary way is the only way to type fast, but in fact people on iOS can type fucking fast even on a 3.5" screen. Now imagine if they had a 4" screen or a 4.3" screen? I think apps like SmartKeyboard Pro get me almost there on Android.

I've also used WP7 long enough to say that its keyboard is pretty good at prediction/correction. It also works well in speed typing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAJIDH5d4C4

YOu know that Swiftkey promo video? It's not that Swiftkey is so freaking good. It's the ICS keyboard just isn't that good to begin with. And of course they sucked at typing. I see tons of iOS people typing just as well, and I could repeat the same on my WP7.

To me if you need to rely on a keyboard replacement just to do what iOS users are doing on their stock keyboard, that's pretty bad. It speaks a lot on how Google can't even make a decent fucking keyboard. It's great we get keyboard replacements on Android, but if the stock keyboard were good enough, I wouldn't CARE about replacing my keyboard. I just want to type well normally. iOS and WP7 do that remarkably well. That is why I use SmartKeyboard on my Android. Powerful for normal tapping.

 

[kaerflog]

Your preference and bias is Apple. Nothing wrong with that. The only reason you're using Android is because T-Mobile doesn't support 3g data for the iPhone. The fact you would actually put up with the slow 2g EDGE speed and use the iPhone on T-Mobile is very telling. Maybe the Sense keyboard on the One S just sucks. The reviews I've read wasn't all that positive. Or maybe you just don't like Android keyboards and it's not for you. Which is fine because people like different things. But to say it's problem with Android is very ignorant. Your preference is not universal and based on any fact.

I think Apple keyboard is very good and was the best for a long time. But Android has caught up and the ICS keyboard on the Galaxy Nexus is very good. I'm even liking Swiftkey 3 even though I was never big fan of the Swiftkey before. I have the latest iPod Touch in the house along with iPad 1&2. I have no problem using Apple keyboard even though I prefer the GNex ICS keyboard. There are others who prefer Swype, Swiftkey, etc. We don't go around saying there's problem with iOS because we prefer certain Android keyboard over Apple.

Your comprehension is pretty bad.
Please look for an Apple fanboy elsewhere.
Apple fanboy <not found>
To assume I use Android just because of 3G capable is pretty damm stupid.
Last I remembered, I make a comment at how good WP7 keyboard is and there are WP7 phones on T-mobile but I'm not using one.
I can't make a critical comment about Android without being called an Apple fanboy ??
To assume I'm Apple bias because I said the keyboard on iOS is better is asinine.

 

[ponyo]

Your comprehension is pretty bad.
Please look for an Apple fanboy elsewhere.
Apple fanboy <not found>
To assume I use Android just because of 3G capable is pretty damm stupid.
Last I remembered, I make a comment at how good WP7 keyboard is and there are WP7 phones on T-mobile but I'm not using one.
I can't make a critical comment about Android without being called an Apple fanboy ??
To assume I'm Apple bias because I said the keyboard on iOS is better is asinine.

No, how you like to pass off your preference and opinion as fact makes you asinine. I'm never said you were Apple fanboy.

 

[Zaap]

Gee, how predictable.

Plenty of us here have both. The Apple keyboard isn't anything all that special. I find it downright primitive because it doesn't have any layout or theme choice and no modern features like long press keys, and the text prediction/auto completion has long since been surpassed. Just because some people have gotten used to doing things only one way because there's no other choice, doesn't make it 'better' than everything else. Does this same crap have to ruin every other thread?

 

[Spoooon]

I'm kind of torn between Swype and SwiftKey. Both are good, but Swype is pretty darn fast one you get used to it.

 

[jhansman]

I love how these app update threads invariably turn into pissing contests. Do you people have nothing better to think about or do? Really?

 

[WelshBloke]

I love how these app update threads invariably turn into pissing contests. Do you people have nothing better to think about or do? Really?

THAT'S BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY ONE CORRECT CHOICE FOR EVERYONE AND WE MUST BURN THE UNBELIEVERS!
PERSONAL PREFERENCE IS NOTHING YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED.

caps

 

[Dulanic]

I've been a Swype user for a long time but they just pushed out a new beta that removed a bunch of features. They've taken out the ability to manually edit the personal dictionary and set it back to how it used to work - words are automatically added to the personal dictionary when you type them.

Since the Swype team is obviously not interested in advancing their software and instead likes to make changes just for the hell of it, I might be done. Swiping is nice though, it'll be hard to go without it. I'm going to try the trial for a few days and see how it goes.

EDIT: Hmm, SwiftKey 3 doesn't have the ability to manually customize your dictionary either. It works just like Swype, auto-adding words that you type in and not letting you manually add them. But it is a nice keyboard.

You know you can edit the dictonary for Swype right? If you want to add a word, just hold it down for like 3 seconds in the word selection and it will add it. Same thing for deleting a word, is done the same way if it's already known. A orange/red word is unknown can can be added, a white word will be removed.

Edit: sorry have to click the orange word to add

 

[AstroManLuca]

You know you can edit the dictonary for Swype right? If you want to add a word, just hold it down for like 3 seconds in the word selection and it will add it. Same thing for deleting a word, is done the same way if it's already known. A orange/red word is unknown can can be added, a white word will be removed.

Edit: sorry have to click the orange word to add

I know. The previous version had an actual list of all your custom dictionary words, and you could add words (or strings including special characters) at will. Now they've reverted back to auto-adding words to your dictionary, even if you don't want them! There are reports all over the Swype forums of people having nonsense CAPTCHA words clogging up their personal dictionaries.

There is still a personal dictionary view in the new Swype, but they've removed the ability to add to it manually. You can only remove words.

 

[lothar]

It's actually a ymmv thing, but I agree with him. Most people I know who've extensively used both like the iPhone keyboard better than any Android one. The fact even with my fat fingers I can type faster and more accurately on a 3.5" iPhone over my 5.3" Galaxy Note tells me something. If it was just a matter of just creating an app, there would be a clone of the iPhone keyboard in the Play store. The fact there isn't tells me there's something about Android that makes it impossible. I literally would pay $30 for the exact iPhone keyboard on my Note. And the problem isn't me I've owned 4 Android phones and used about a dozen other different ones. It's always the same thing with the keyboard situation.

How come the Guinness book of world record holders for typing is an Android user using SwiftKey X and not an iPhone keyboard?
Can you show me someone with an iPhone keyboard breaking Guinness world records since you're claiming that you type faster on it than on Android?

The fact that the iPhone keyboard doesn't shatter any world record in speed typing tells me it's something about iOS that makes it impossible.
See where I'm going with that?

Like you mentioned in your first statement, it's a YMMV thing for everyone.
But to suggest or imply that it's a problem with Android makes one an ignoramus.
It's a problem with Android, but yet Android users are still breaking typing records? 😵
If it's a problem with Android, then an iPhone keyboard shouldn't have any problems competing.

 

[QueBert]

How come the Guinness book of world record holders for typing is an Android user using SwiftKey X and not an iPhone keyboard?
Can you show me someone with an iPhone keyboard breaking Guinness world records since you're claiming that you type faster on it than on Android?

The fact that the iPhone keyboard doesn't shatter any world record in speed typing tells me it's something about iOS that makes it impossible.
See where I'm going with that?

Like you mentioned in your first statement, it's a YMMV thing for everyone.
But to suggest or imply that it's a problem with Android makes one an ignoramus.
It's a problem with Android, but yet Android users are still breaking typing records? 😵
If it's a problem with Android, then an iPhone keyboard shouldn't have any problems competing.

I don't know anything about the Guinness Book record, but I do know that nobody I know has ever even attempted to submit a record to them. My friend hit's about 85wmp on his iPhone keyboard, which is about 15 more than I normally do. And I'm going to have to assume my friend isn't close to the fastest iOS typer on the planet. But perhaps he is, and perhaps if he entered the Guinness Book he'd break the current record. I don't even have any idea what the Guinness Book record for this is. And out of the hundreds of millions of smart phone owners world wide how many do you think have submitted their texting feat to it? 25? So since the record's not even close to accurate, imho it's pretty meaningless. Competitive texting accounts for like .0010% of smart phone users.

 

[AstroManLuca]

Wow guys who gives a shit if the iPhone or SwiftKey is faster for competitive texting. This "stop liking what I don't like" thing is really tiresome.

 

[gorcorps]

Anybody else have problems with the update lagging or not keeping up with their typing? I usually use swype, but had Swiftkey X from a while ago and decided to try the update. However it seems very slow and doesn't keep up with my typing... something that didn't happen before the update, or on any other keyboard.

Other than that, I like it. I like how I can shrink the keyboard to see more screen. It's less accurate, but it almost always knows what I meant so it doesn't matter.

 

[Red Storm]

I'm stuck with an iPhone 4 for now and everytime I bring the keyboard up I remember how much I miss Swype. Swiftkey is pretty good, but I didn't like it because for normal typing it didn't seem as good. You kinda had to use the prediction to make it useful. At least with Swype I can still type normally and it works just as good.

However, I will give the new update a try once I get back on Android.

 

[BoberFett]

It's just a first impression, but I've been using Swiftkey 3 for a couple days now and the prediction seems worse than it used to be. I used to find myself only typing two to three letters most of the time before the word I wanted was in the center prediction button, but now it seems to love suggesting obscure words until I'm four five letters in. Again, just an impression, I haven't done side by side tests or anything.

Edit: And I'm having the contractions issue that some other people are talking about.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

How come the Guinness book of world record holders for typing is an Android user using SwiftKey X and not an iPhone keyboard?
Can you show me someone with an iPhone keyboard breaking Guinness world records since you're claiming that you type faster on it than on Android?

Can you please link me to this article saying the user used Swiftkey X? Guinness Book of Records doesn't say this on their website, nor does searching on Google.