SURPRISE! Dems Break Promise: Stimulus Bill to Floor Friday

[winnar111]

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01

Originally posted by: bbdub333
So you are saying people voted the Dems in to do the exact same thing?

there is a difference between spending money on war and spending money on improvements for the country but I'm sure your cognitive dissonance won't allow you to see that.

Yeah, the difference is we won the war.

 

[MovingTarget]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01

Originally posted by: bbdub333
So you are saying people voted the Dems in to do the exact same thing?

there is a difference between spending money on war and spending money on improvements for the country but I'm sure your cognitive dissonance won't allow you to see that.

Yeah, the difference is we won the war.

What does that have to do with improvements abroad vs. domestically?

 

[OrByte]

Originally posted by: Duwelon

Originally posted by: palehorse

Originally posted by: umbrella39
the majority of the country knows exactly where to place the blame.

The smart ones are blaming both parties.

Don't give me that "both" parties crap. Both parties are to blame in that both parties are helping pass the stimulous package, but to say both parties at large are the blame is NOT smart. The right is overwhelmingly opposed to this tiny morsel of stimulous + 10 metric tons of bile that is being pushed by Obama and the left as the solution to our impending anarchy.

The smart ones realize it is 99% of Democrats trying to squeeze through a bunch of crap in this "stimulous" bill. Take your "both parties to blame" crap somewhere else, because it's intellectually dishonest to say such a thing about this bill.

I guess McCain lucked out that he didn't win the nomination, or else he would be on the recieving end of all of this bullshit being heaped by his own party-people.

How quickly we forget that it was the Bush administration that broke open the piggy bank for stimulus spending.

Both parties are guilty of doing it, and reaping benefits as a result.

 

[Rustler]

Chruchev, said they would take America with out firing a shot. While Democrats and Republicans bicker, who really does what is best for the country..............................

Divide and Conquer............................................

 

[theeedude]

Sore losers who helped fvck up the economy when they had the power, now want to continue fvcking it up.
Guess what, we had an election on this, people wanted Democrats to run this country. Get over it.

 

[winnar111]

Originally posted by: MovingTarget

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01

Originally posted by: bbdub333
So you are saying people voted the Dems in to do the exact same thing?

there is a difference between spending money on war and spending money on improvements for the country but I'm sure your cognitive dissonance won't allow you to see that.

Yeah, the difference is we won the war.

What does that have to do with improvements abroad vs. domestically?

Liberals all over the place continue to pretend that war spending occurs in entirely foreign countries. It doesn't.

Jobs, right?

 

[theeedude]

Ultimately, we have nothing to show for the war in Iraq in this country. The economy tanked while we were "winning" in Iraq, so obviously it didn't stimulate the economy out of this mess.

 

[feralkid]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: MovingTarget

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01

Originally posted by: bbdub333
So you are saying people voted the Dems in to do the exact same thing?

there is a difference between spending money on war and spending money on improvements for the country but I'm sure your cognitive dissonance won't allow you to see that.

Yeah, the difference is we won the war.

What does that have to do with improvements abroad vs. domestically?

Liberals all over the place continue to pretend that war spending occurs in entirely foreign countries. It doesn't.

Jobs, right?

Whachoo talkin'about, Rufus?

Nobody ever believed nor continues to pretend any such thing.

Stop making shit up.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: senseamp
Ultimately, we have nothing to show for the war in Iraq in this country. The economy tanked while we were "winning" in Iraq, so obviously it didn't stimulate the economy out of this mess.

who said it did?

You really need to stop with the "sore losers" and "we won, you lost" nonsense. Obama and the rest of the Dems campaigned on the concept of a shift toward genuine bipartisanship and change, not more of the same partisan bullshit simply done by the opposite side of the same coin.

The out of control spending, by all sides, must stop; and, the Dems need to figure out a way to bring real bipartisanship to Washington, or they too will fail.

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: palehorse

Originally posted by: senseamp
Ultimately, we have nothing to show for the war in Iraq in this country. The economy tanked while we were "winning" in Iraq, so obviously it didn't stimulate the economy out of this mess.

who said it did?

You really need to stop with the "sore losers" and "we won, you lost" nonsense. Obama and the rest of the Dems campaigned on the concept of a shift toward genuine bipartisanship and change, not more of the same partisan bullshit simply done by the opposite side of the same coin.

The out of control spending, by all sides, must stop; and, the Dems need to figure out a way to bring real bipartisanship to Washington, or they too will fail.

Riight, what's mine is mine, and what's yours is ours? Not so fast, sore loser.

 

[MovingTarget]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: MovingTarget

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01

Originally posted by: bbdub333
So you are saying people voted the Dems in to do the exact same thing?

there is a difference between spending money on war and spending money on improvements for the country but I'm sure your cognitive dissonance won't allow you to see that.

Yeah, the difference is we won the war.

What does that have to do with improvements abroad vs. domestically?

Liberals all over the place continue to pretend that war spending occurs in entirely foreign countries. It doesn't.

Jobs, right?

In that case, the 'liberals' are wrong. A lot of war spending occurs here at home as this is where we build the equipment, train our soldiers, etc. However, if you compare war spending vs. domestic spending, the average American sees much more tangible benefit. Eisenhower had a real gem in his farewell address about defense spending that applies here, which is why a lot of moderates tend not to protest the libs on that.

But each proposal must be weighed in light of a broader consideration; the need to maintain balance in and among national programs ? balance between the private and the public economy, balance between the cost and hoped for advantages ? balance between the clearly necessary and the comfortably desirable; balance between our essential requirements as a nation and the duties imposed by the nation upon the individual; balance between the actions of the moment and the national welfare of the future. Good judgment seeks balance and progress; lack of it eventually finds imbalance and frustration.

 

[winnar111]

Originally posted by: feralkid
Whachoo talkin'about, Rufus?

Nobody ever believed nor continues to pretend any such thing.

Stop making shit up.

Just ask the lefties. A job in the military, or for a contractor, or producing equipment, or building ships for the Navy, or for a health insurance company, is a waste, but unemployment benefits and resodding the National Mall is a 'stimulus'.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: palehorse

Originally posted by: senseamp
Ultimately, we have nothing to show for the war in Iraq in this country. The economy tanked while we were "winning" in Iraq, so obviously it didn't stimulate the economy out of this mess.

who said it did?

You really need to stop with the "sore losers" and "we won, you lost" nonsense. Obama and the rest of the Dems campaigned on the concept of a shift toward genuine bipartisanship and change, not more of the same partisan bullshit simply done by the opposite side of the same coin.

The out of control spending, by all sides, must stop; and, the Dems need to figure out a way to bring real bipartisanship to Washington, or they too will fail.

Riight, what's mine is mine, and what's yours is ours? Not so fast, sore loser.

For the last fucking time, I VOTED FOR OBAMA YOU TWIT!

Everyone will "lose" if he fails to deliver on his promises of change and genuine bipartisanship.

 

[CitizenKain]

Originally posted by: Duwelon


Warning, this link isn't part of the MSM, so you may have to think for yourself and resist urges to dismiss it as "not liberal enough and therefore all lies".

Watching 2 atheists discuss the origin of life is like watching 2 computers try to figure out where they came from, with the premise that they couldn't possibly have been designed by a higher force.

Hahaha, Duwelon accusing others of having to think, how rich.

 

[MovingTarget]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: feralkid
Whachoo talkin'about, Rufus?

Nobody ever believed nor continues to pretend any such thing.

Stop making shit up.

Just ask the lefties. A job in the military, or for a contractor, or producing equipment, or building ships for the Navy, or for a health insurance company, is a waste, but unemployment benefits and resodding the National Mall is a 'stimulus'.

How about jobs rebuilding and expanding road, rail, and maritime infrastructure? How about jobs running things like water desalination plants, power plants, waste treatment plants or other things that make civilized life possible in a modern world? What about public transport? How about agricultural infrastructure? You, winnar111, have touched upon the classic 'guns vs. butter' debate. Most will agree at this point that we are beginning to come up short in the butter area.

 

[QuantumPion]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
The Democrats have learned a thing or two from Republicans. The latter had a plan to spend so much money and create such debt that no liberal program could ever find funding again. The Democrats have upped the anti and are out to destroy the country so no Republican can ever get elected again. You started it, but we'll finish it. I'm so full of hate I'd rather die than let them win. BuBye, you stupid assholes.

Finally, an honest liberal. :thumbsup:

 

[feralkid]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: feralkid
Whachoo talkin'about, Rufus?

Nobody ever believed nor continues to pretend any such thing.

Stop making shit up.

Just ask the lefties. A job in the military, or for a contractor, or producing equipment, or building ships for the Navy, or for a health insurance company, is a waste, but unemployment benefits and resodding the National Mall is a 'stimulus'.

That's a pretty broad generalization, and patently false.

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01

Originally posted by: bbdub333
So you are saying people voted the Dems in to do the exact same thing?

there is a difference between spending money on war and spending money on improvements for the country but I'm sure your cognitive dissonance won't allow you to see that.

Yeah, the difference is we won the war.

Do you have a tough rat in your back pocket? Who is this WE you always speak of? You didn't do shit but cheer death by day and hide under your bed at the night. You don't get your man card by bringing up the actions of actual men. You can't be brave vicariously through those that are, Sally.

 

[winnar111]

Originally posted by: MovingTarget

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: feralkid
Whachoo talkin'about, Rufus?

Nobody ever believed nor continues to pretend any such thing.

Stop making shit up.

Just ask the lefties. A job in the military, or for a contractor, or producing equipment, or building ships for the Navy, or for a health insurance company, is a waste, but unemployment benefits and resodding the National Mall is a 'stimulus'.

How about jobs rebuilding and expanding road, rail, and maritime infrastructure? How about jobs running things like water desalination plants, power plants, waste treatment plants or other things that make civilized life possible in a modern world? What about public transport? How about agricultural infrastructure? You, winnar111, have touched upon the classic 'guns vs. butter' debate. Most will agree at this point that we are beginning to come up short in the butter area.

Some of that is worthwhile, some of it is not, and some of it is done in the private sector. Doesn't change the fact that a lot of this bill is or was money for key Democratic constituencies and had nothing to do with jobs or stimulus.

How does giving $250 to people who don't work create a job? College tuition grants?

 

[sciwizam]

CNN: House passes $787B economic recovery plan, 246 to 183

 

[Possessed Freak]

I wonder how many people are thinking... "This had better work."

 

[SAWYER]

facepalm.gif

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: sciwizam
CNN: House passes $787B economic recovery plan, 246 to 183

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: palehorse

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: palehorse

Originally posted by: senseamp
Ultimately, we have nothing to show for the war in Iraq in this country. The economy tanked while we were "winning" in Iraq, so obviously it didn't stimulate the economy out of this mess.

who said it did?

You really need to stop with the "sore losers" and "we won, you lost" nonsense. Obama and the rest of the Dems campaigned on the concept of a shift toward genuine bipartisanship and change, not more of the same partisan bullshit simply done by the opposite side of the same coin.

The out of control spending, by all sides, must stop; and, the Dems need to figure out a way to bring real bipartisanship to Washington, or they too will fail.

Riight, what's mine is mine, and what's yours is ours? Not so fast, sore loser.

For the last fucking time, I VOTED FOR OBAMA YOU TWIT!

Everyone will "lose" if he fails to deliver on his promises of change and genuine bipartisanship.

LOL you realize who you are responding to? senseamp was mr. anti-obama until his goddess billary lost. Talk about sore losers, I should go look up some funny quotes. Apparently he's had a change of heart, I'm shocked :shocked:

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Originally posted by: palehorse

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: palehorse

Originally posted by: senseamp
Ultimately, we have nothing to show for the war in Iraq in this country. The economy tanked while we were "winning" in Iraq, so obviously it didn't stimulate the economy out of this mess.

who said it did?

You really need to stop with the "sore losers" and "we won, you lost" nonsense. Obama and the rest of the Dems campaigned on the concept of a shift toward genuine bipartisanship and change, not more of the same partisan bullshit simply done by the opposite side of the same coin.

The out of control spending, by all sides, must stop; and, the Dems need to figure out a way to bring real bipartisanship to Washington, or they too will fail.

Riight, what's mine is mine, and what's yours is ours? Not so fast, sore loser.

For the last fucking time, I VOTED FOR OBAMA YOU TWIT!

Everyone will "lose" if he fails to deliver on his promises of change and genuine bipartisanship.

Amen...but I feared we've been duped. Waiting to see how the first 100 days go...so far...not so good IMO.