Stupid cops.. I'm filing a complaint. So they can pull you over for whatever now?

[Mill]

Originally posted by: LeeTJ

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: brxndxn

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Originally posted by: shoeeater
It is absolutely 100% our responsability as citizens to keep cops in check. I dont have problems with the vast majority of cops, however they lose their ability to control their power a lot! Take my story and then talk to me about how I should be compliant with police.

I was pulled over while my girlfriend was speeding, this we didnt challenge. He told her to get out of the car (her grandmas camaro) and then asked if he could search it. She asked what he would do if she said no....he said he would call a K-9 unit to come sniff the car. MISTAKE #1 - A cop can never hold you in a situation like this longer than it takes to write the ticket. Here he was being decietful to make her say yes.

She eventually said yes and he came over to my side of the car and told me to get out of the car. Then he told me to put my hands on the side of the vehicle. He then searched me up and down.....taking out the stuff inside my pockets and everything. MISTAKE #2 - Illegal search....he had no probable cause and therefore no right to search me. These are the rules of being a police officer in the great land of the United States of America. This is a violation of the LAW! Even if it made him safer, he had no RIGHT to search my body.

I filed a report even though his boss asked me not to....then he denied the charges. Internal investigations got involved and had my girlfriend and I take a polygraph test. We both passed and he refused to take one. He was convicted on all 8 charges including an Illegal Search and conduct unbecoming of an officer, and he was given a proper punishment.

The plain and simple truth is that cops can NOT just go about doing what they want.....even if they feel like they can. We have rules that have been set out in local and Federal courts and they have to abide by them PERIOD. This cop did NOT OBEY THE RULES OF OUR COUNTRY! It doesnt matter who was a smart ass when or where. These are the LAWS. The cop needs to face the consequences of not following these laws.



I don't believe you for two reasons. First, that was not an illegal search of your person(USSC says so). Secondly, he can make you wait until the canine gets there. It is simply a continuation of his investigation. Nice made up story.

It is a true story.. He has nothing to gain about lying about the cops by posting on some damn forums..

BTW, he is the friend that I was talking about when I said that we read up on the law because of him. I know him. He and I drink together and I used to be his roomate.

I know very much so that his story is completely true.

He is LYING or his story in INACCURATE because what he described is NOT illegal. Why don't you learn the fvcking law asshole before you get shot. Moron.

Millenium, you remind me of a former acquaintence. All he ever wanted to do was be a cop. and he would have made a VERY VERY bad cop, let me tell you. he was in the service and 3 weeks before the gulf war he got some kind of hardship exception and got OUT of the service because he was too scared to go over to the gulf. what a chickenshit he turned out to be.

what sux is that he eventually became a cop. fortunately it's very far away from where i live now.

Threatening to shoot someone is something that a cop should NEVER be allowed to do in idle conversation. even if it is to say that someone will be shot by another cop. to imply that cops have the right to shoot someone for being a smart@ss is soo stupid as to be painful.

There was the story of another cop in Edison NJ, who apparently got out on disability and will receive disability pay the rest of his life: His disability?? he couldn't control his temper.

Stories like that makes one wonder WHO the cops are protecting us from?

Lee you are so fvcking obtuse and dim it make me want to cry. He needs to know the law to prevent his dumbass FROM being shot. I am not HOPING NOR WISHING anything upon him. It is actually a statement to protect him from getting fvcking shot the next time he does something stupid to a cop. I never said shoot him, nor did I say it would be for being a smart ass. If you had a 5th grade reading level you would understand that walking towards a cop after drinking is an aggressive move. He escalated the situation and is LUCKY more didn't happen. The cop could have taken it the wrong way and SHOT him. Do you understand any better yet, or do I need to dumb it down even more?

 

[dmcowen674]

Sorry ( I didn't reas all the replies) if this is a repeat. I would've driven straight to the nearest Police Pricinct (hopefully the one they are based out of) and filed the complaint immediately. The supervisor in charge would most likely call them in for ID and proper procedures go from there.

They were obviously making up the "Speeding" to be their "Probable Cause". Face it everyone, we now live in a Police State. It isn't a Socialist Republic like the Former Soviet Union so it is what is known as a "Protectorate". Protectionism of the best interests of the ruling party which is Corporate America in our case and the Police Dept is part of the Judicial System which is now technically run like a Corporation, it is strictly a For Profit system at all costs.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Sorry ( I didn't reas all the replies) if this is a repeat. I would've driven straight to the nearest Police Pricinct (hopefully the one they are based out of) and filed the complaint immediately. The supervisor in charge would most likely call them in for ID and proper procedures go from there.

They were obviously making up the "Speeding" to be their "Probable Cause". Face it everyone, we now live in a Police State. It isn't a Socialist Republic like the Former Soviet Union so it is what is known as a "Protectorate". Protectionism of the best interests of the ruling party which is Corporate America in our case and the Police Dept is part of the Judicial System which is now technically run like a Corporation, it is strictly a For Profit system at all costs.

Dave you only say that because you did something illegal according to GA law and got caught. Had that not happened you would be singing a different tune.

 

[LeeTJ]

Originally posted by: Millennium
Lee you are so fvcking obtuse and dim it make me want to cry. He needs to know the law to prevent his dumbass FROM being shot. I am not HOPING NOR WISHING anything upon him. It is actually a statement to protect him from getting fvcking shot the next time he does something stupid to a cop. I never said shoot him, nor did I say it would be for being a smart ass. If you had a 5th grade reading level you would understand that walking towards a cop after drinking is an aggressive move. He escalated the situation and is LUCKY more didn't happen. The cop could have taken it the wrong way and SHOT him. Do you understand any better yet, or do I need to dumb it down even more?

Your belligerence is more than enough for the rest of us to just assume you are wrong.

your attitude is a lot like those cops in NJ that shot a van load of guys. they were black guys hence it was all right, was their reasoning.

Get a fvcking clue. Cops like you are the reason that many people don't like cops.

 

[SP33Demon]

I personally hate cops. They are losers who couldn't get a 4 year degree (omg, u actually have to think to earn a living????), and can't get along with normal society so they get off on harassing the same society that socially shunned and outcast them in their younger years. Just a little trend I've noticed, not saying all cops are like this... Just watch Training Day and you'll get a good idea of what many cops are like, low life penny pinching corrupt scum of society... To say they "protect" our society is a fvcking joke, how many times do they actually respond to a crime within 20 minutes? Maybe 19, if the jelly donuts don't slow them down enough to walk to the car so they can do 110mph, endanger everyone on the road near them, and are still ridiculously late to a crime scene... I guess I'm a little biased, our gas station from back in the day was held up and someone was blown away, and the cops come a half hour after we call and they didn't even fingerprint the door. lol... that just about sums them up.

 

[BigRigDriver]

Boy, what a mess

Just an advice to the original poster. In some states & some police depts. if you file a claim against a police officer, that claim will go to the police officers record no matter what the outcome is. At the end, you are liable for damages done to the police officers record if you have filed a false complaints. The police officer might SUE for damages in small claims court. Just make sure you are telling the whole truth & nothing but the truth, so help you GOD!!!


Theres a bad orange in every bushell...

 

Originally posted by: Eli
Man, that story really pisses me off. Take it all the way, as far as you can.. that's a bunch of BS.

Unfortunately, it seems that about 80% of the cops out there are like this. I hate it.

How many cops have you come into contact with, Eli? I work at my university's police department (full-service, functional 24 hours a day) and every single officer there is as friendly as my mom or dad. They're people too - they just choose a more noble and dangerous profession than most of us.

Some cops are dicks. Just like some IT professionals are dicks too. Most cops are good, and they only become standoffish when they're confronted with a dangerous or uncomfortable situation.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: brxndxn

Things are done differently in every country. Freedom is not the issue here. You being obsessed with the US is the issue.

Freedom is most definitely the issue when you get stopped at random after doing nothing wrong.

He says, "You were going 60, maybe 62 mph and this is a 45mph."

At this point, since I have been staring at the speedometer the whole time, I chimed in and said, "She was not speeding, sir. I was watching the speedometer the whole time and she never once passed 48mph. Can we go? Our Taco Bell is getting cold."

Right fvcking there you ADMITTED that she was speeding. Yet you were doing nothing wrong! Buzz...

The mandatory 10% over-read on the speedo can take care of that fella. Actual speed taken by a calibrated instrument would not show 48, more like 43-44. BUZZ.

There is no mandatory 10% over-read in the state of Florida. This is not the UK.

So you have a calibrated Speedo? No. So get a clue. The Radar will HAVE to be calibrated within a given time frame of the trap or it's evidence will not be valid. Your car WILL NOT read over your actual speed, but under. It will get closer to actual as the tyres wear, but will not show over speed readings, this would be illegal. So it is safe to say that you are not doing the indicated speed, but always under that speed. My point being, Brxndxn says 48, so what? Is that admissable? No. game over. Calibrated readings only, fella, game over.

And now we have that sorted out, tell me, why do you allow the errosion of your freedom? Do you enjoy free will and safety? I do and will fight every inch of the way to keep it. You can just roll over and get trodden on if you want, but sometimes you have got to make a stand, but if not, step aside and let those who care protect you from the evils you don't even want to acknowledge.

*yawns* I think everyone is quite aware of what impact tires have on the speedo as well as gears, and the frequent calibration needed for radar. Secondly, under 60 MPH most speedos are accurate to within a FEW percent here in the US. Search google if you want the info I read. I read it several years ago. Thirdly, you have much less freedom in the UK than I do here. I can own a firearm and you cannot. Don't even start on freedom because you have very little compared to me. Fourthly, a speedo can and WILL read over the actual limit is going. What is preventing it from doing so? God? Please I have raced cars for years now and when you go from 3.27 gears to 4.10s your speedo reads ABOVE actual speed.

1) You have more freedom than me? I can get out and talk to a cop without fearing that he will A) shoot me in the face cause I look at him funny or B) beat me to a pulp because he hasn't fvcked his wife in 2 months straight.

2) Only the type of firearm is restricted. If I want one lawfully I can get one. You are badly informed. Again.

3)Explain the 'extra' freedoms you have over a UK resident. (me=LMAO already)

4) See the bold text. So 48 read in probably 45 real, end of.

Ooooh your a racer too, great, really impressive. Ever driven a Countach? I have, but it doesn't make the fact that the cop was an ass any less than your sketchy rear end gearing knowledge does, does it?

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: LeeTJ

Originally posted by: Millennium
Lee you are so fvcking obtuse and dim it make me want to cry. He needs to know the law to prevent his dumbass FROM being shot. I am not HOPING NOR WISHING anything upon him. It is actually a statement to protect him from getting fvcking shot the next time he does something stupid to a cop. I never said shoot him, nor did I say it would be for being a smart ass. If you had a 5th grade reading level you would understand that walking towards a cop after drinking is an aggressive move. He escalated the situation and is LUCKY more didn't happen. The cop could have taken it the wrong way and SHOT him. Do you understand any better yet, or do I need to dumb it down even more?

Your belligerence is more than enough for the rest of us to just assume you are wrong.

your attitude is a lot like those cops in NJ that shot a van load of guys. they were black guys hence it was all right, was their reasoning.

Get a fvcking clue. Cops like you are the reason that many people don't like cops.

I AM NOT A FVCKING COP! Can you people NOT understand that? Your 5th grade reading skills are rearing their ugly head AGAIN. Thanks for saying I was belligerent, but it was actually more arrogance than belligerence because I know I am right. Thanks though. Jesus christ learn to fvcking read...

 

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
I personally hate cops. They are losers who couldn't get a 4 year degree (omg, u actually have to think to earn a living????), and can't get along with normal society so they get off on harassing the same society that socially shunned and outcast them in their younger years. Just a little trend I've noticed, not saying all cops are like this... Just watch Training Day and you'll get a good idea of what many cops are like, low life penny pinching corrupt scum of society... To say they "protect" our society is a fvcking joke, how many times do they actually respond to a crime within 20 minutes? Maybe 19, if the jelly donuts don't slow them down enough to walk to the car so they can do 110mph, endanger everyone on the road near them, and are still ridiculously late to a crime scene... I guess I'm a little biased, our gas station from back in the day was held up and someone was blown away, and the cops come a half hour after we call and they didn't even fingerprint the door. lol... that just about sums them up.

That's a lie, just like your little jelly doughnut jab. I'm not even going to respond specifically to your points, but I will tell you this: EVERY SINGLE POLICE OFFICER IN THE U OF M DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY HAS A FOUR YEAR DEGREE FROM AN ACCREDITED EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTION. Most police departments are making this a requisite for a job now.

Get off your ass, stop watching trashy movies like Training Day (and believing that they're TRUE!

) and learn about the society we live in.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: brxndxn

Things are done differently in every country. Freedom is not the issue here. You being obsessed with the US is the issue.

Freedom is most definitely the issue when you get stopped at random after doing nothing wrong.

He says, "You were going 60, maybe 62 mph and this is a 45mph."

At this point, since I have been staring at the speedometer the whole time, I chimed in and said, "She was not speeding, sir. I was watching the speedometer the whole time and she never once passed 48mph. Can we go? Our Taco Bell is getting cold."

Right fvcking there you ADMITTED that she was speeding. Yet you were doing nothing wrong! Buzz...

The mandatory 10% over-read on the speedo can take care of that fella. Actual speed taken by a calibrated instrument would not show 48, more like 43-44. BUZZ.

There is no mandatory 10% over-read in the state of Florida. This is not the UK.

So you have a calibrated Speedo? No. So get a clue. The Radar will HAVE to be calibrated within a given time frame of the trap or it's evidence will not be valid. Your car WILL NOT read over your actual speed, but under. It will get closer to actual as the tyres wear, but will not show over speed readings, this would be illegal. So it is safe to say that you are not doing the indicated speed, but always under that speed. My point being, Brxndxn says 48, so what? Is that admissable? No. game over. Calibrated readings only, fella, game over.

And now we have that sorted out, tell me, why do you allow the errosion of your freedom? Do you enjoy free will and safety? I do and will fight every inch of the way to keep it. You can just roll over and get trodden on if you want, but sometimes you have got to make a stand, but if not, step aside and let those who care protect you from the evils you don't even want to acknowledge.

*yawns* I think everyone is quite aware of what impact tires have on the speedo as well as gears, and the frequent calibration needed for radar. Secondly, under 60 MPH most speedos are accurate to within a FEW percent here in the US. Search google if you want the info I read. I read it several years ago. Thirdly, you have much less freedom in the UK than I do here. I can own a firearm and you cannot. Don't even start on freedom because you have very little compared to me. Fourthly, a speedo can and WILL read over the actual limit is going. What is preventing it from doing so? God? Please I have raced cars for years now and when you go from 3.27 gears to 4.10s your speedo reads ABOVE actual speed.

1) You have more freedom than me? I can get out and talk to a cop without fearing that he will A) shoot me in the face cause I look at him funny or B) beat me to a pulp because he hasn't fvcked his wife in 2 months straight.

2) Only the type of firearm is restricted. If I want one lawfully I can get one. You are badly informed. Again.

3)Explain the 'extra' freedoms you have over a UK resident. (me=LMAO already)

4) See the bold text. So 48 read in probably 45 real, end of.

Ooooh your a racer too, great, really impressive. Ever driven a Countach? I have, but it doesn't make the fact that the cop was an ass any less than your sketchy rear end gearing knowledge does, does it?

1. No point was made. Just stupidity and rambling

2. Post a link. What kind can you get? What restrictions? Thanks. Put up or shut up!

3. Already did...

4. ??? Speak English please. BTW, my gear knowledge was dead on. Driving a Countach proves what? Oh that you can continue your lies. Wow, another liar. Do you want me to get the rear end gear calculator from the corral out and whoop your ass with it? I can prove to you FACTUALLY that a 4.10 forces a speedo to read higher than a 3.27 when it is not corrected.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
I personally hate cops. They are losers who couldn't get a 4 year degree (omg, u actually have to think to earn a living????), and can't get along with normal society so they get off on harassing the same society that socially shunned and outcast them in their younger years. Just a little trend I've noticed, not saying all cops are like this... Just watch Training Day and you'll get a good idea of what many cops are like, low life penny pinching corrupt scum of society... To say they "protect" our society is a fvcking joke, how many times do they actually respond to a crime within 20 minutes? Maybe 19, if the jelly donuts don't slow them down enough to walk to the car so they can do 110mph, endanger everyone on the road near them, and are still ridiculously late to a crime scene... I guess I'm a little biased, our gas station from back in the day was held up and someone was blown away, and the cops come a half hour after we call and they didn't even fingerprint the door. lol... that just about sums them up.

What a fvcking moron. Most cops are either working towards their degree or have one. What degree do you have? Your limited grasp of english and grammar leads me to believe you failed pre-school.

 

[Lithium381]

after reading the 12:48 edit....

stay in the car, do NOT give the guy your licence until he complies with giving you his badge number/name.......what is he going to do then!? i geuss it would delay things a bit, and you were in a hurry....but yeah, some cops are A-holes,

 

[LeeTJ]

Originally posted by: Millennium
I AM NOT A FVCKING COP! Can you people NOT understand that? Your 5th grade reading skills are rearing their ugly head AGAIN. Thanks for saying I was belligerent, but it was actually more arrogance than belligerence because I know I am right. Thanks though. Jesus christ learn to fvcking read...

Chill dude.

U'R not a cop. i get it. i confess i didn't read the whole damn thread.

you do talk like an @sshole cop tho.

btw, for the record, I'm VERY VERY glad U'r not a cop. i can't imagine what a major PIA you would be as a cop.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: tk149
Wow, lots of false information and strongly held opinions in this thread...

FYI, What Happens When I Am Stopped By The Police?

In a nutshell, the police can stop you for a short time and interrogate you if they have "Reasonable Suspicion" to believe that a crime is either taking place or will very shortly take place. Of course, the definition of "Reasonable Suspicion" is rather vague, but I think it's safe to say that it's not a very high hurdle for the police to clear in the courts.

Millenium, you need to go back and hit the books. Unless both my memory of law school and the above article are wrong, shoeeater was indeed subjected to an illegal search. According to my interpretation of his post, he was "Terry Stopped," and searched incident to the Terry Stop, which is legal. However, the police officer did not have the right to empty his pockets without actually arresting him (which would have required "Probable Cause").

Based on brxndxn's post (and only on his post, which no one has proven factually inaccurate, although I suspect it's somewhat biased ), I'd say that brxndxn may have done some foolish things, but the cop was a serious A-hole. Foolishness is not a crime, but harassment is.

LOL your idea of the Terry case is spaced out! Terry states that a frisk should be a protective measure. Police officers cannot conduct a frisk as a fishing expedition simply to try to find items BESIDES weapons, such as illegal narcotics on a suspect. A frisk does not allow the inner pockets to be turned out UNLESS there is suspicion that the outer frisk was unable to show what the item in the pocket was. What the officer did was completely legal.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: brxndxn

Things are done differently in every country. Freedom is not the issue here. You being obsessed with the US is the issue.

Freedom is most definitely the issue when you get stopped at random after doing nothing wrong.

He says, "You were going 60, maybe 62 mph and this is a 45mph."

At this point, since I have been staring at the speedometer the whole time, I chimed in and said, "She was not speeding, sir. I was watching the speedometer the whole time and she never once passed 48mph. Can we go? Our Taco Bell is getting cold."

Right fvcking there you ADMITTED that she was speeding. Yet you were doing nothing wrong! Buzz...

The mandatory 10% over-read on the speedo can take care of that fella. Actual speed taken by a calibrated instrument would not show 48, more like 43-44. BUZZ.

There is no mandatory 10% over-read in the state of Florida. This is not the UK.

So you have a calibrated Speedo? No. So get a clue. The Radar will HAVE to be calibrated within a given time frame of the trap or it's evidence will not be valid. Your car WILL NOT read over your actual speed, but under. It will get closer to actual as the tyres wear, but will not show over speed readings, this would be illegal. So it is safe to say that you are not doing the indicated speed, but always under that speed. My point being, Brxndxn says 48, so what? Is that admissable? No. game over. Calibrated readings only, fella, game over.

And now we have that sorted out, tell me, why do you allow the errosion of your freedom? Do you enjoy free will and safety? I do and will fight every inch of the way to keep it. You can just roll over and get trodden on if you want, but sometimes you have got to make a stand, but if not, step aside and let those who care protect you from the evils you don't even want to acknowledge.

*yawns* I think everyone is quite aware of what impact tires have on the speedo as well as gears, and the frequent calibration needed for radar. Secondly, under 60 MPH most speedos are accurate to within a FEW percent here in the US. Search google if you want the info I read. I read it several years ago. Thirdly, you have much less freedom in the UK than I do here. I can own a firearm and you cannot. Don't even start on freedom because you have very little compared to me. Fourthly, a speedo can and WILL read over the actual limit is going. What is preventing it from doing so? God? Please I have raced cars for years now and when you go from 3.27 gears to 4.10s your speedo reads ABOVE actual speed.

1) You have more freedom than me? I can get out and talk to a cop without fearing that he will A) shoot me in the face cause I look at him funny or B) beat me to a pulp because he hasn't fvcked his wife in 2 months straight.

2) Only the type of firearm is restricted. If I want one lawfully I can get one. You are badly informed. Again.

3)Explain the 'extra' freedoms you have over a UK resident. (me=LMAO already)

4) See the bold text. So 48 read in probably 45 real, end of.

Ooooh your a racer too, great, really impressive. Ever driven a Countach? I have, but it doesn't make the fact that the cop was an ass any less than your sketchy rear end gearing knowledge does, does it?

1. No point was made. Just stupidity and rambling

2. Post a link. What kind can you get? What restrictions? Thanks. Put up or shut up!

3. Already did...

4. ??? Speak English please. BTW, my gear knowledge was dead on. Driving a Countach proves what? Oh that you can continue your lies. Wow, another liar. Do you want me to get the rear end gear calculator from the corral out and whoop your ass with it? I can prove to you FACTUALLY that a 4.10 forces a speedo to read higher than a 3.27 when it is not corrected.

1) Those Blinkers must hurt, give them a rest. Just ignoring the truth doesn't stop it being true

2) To placate your spoon-feed mentality, here is a
LINK

3) Guns. Is that it? I'm happy to be chastised then, LOL.

4) Again, read the bold text. Is that a properly constructed sentence? As for the rear end gearing crap, I couldn't give a waxed muff about it. The Lambo is for real, a 25th Aniversary model, previous owner was in a pop band and then went to my friends cousin. We took it out, we went fast and no bacon boys could catch us. Ahh, freedom and privilege, I like it. Suck it down donut boi.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: LeeTJ

Originally posted by: Millennium
I AM NOT A FVCKING COP! Can you people NOT understand that? Your 5th grade reading skills are rearing their ugly head AGAIN. Thanks for saying I was belligerent, but it was actually more arrogance than belligerence because I know I am right. Thanks though. Jesus christ learn to fvcking read...

Chill dude.

U'R not a cop. i get it. i confess i didn't read the whole damn thread.

you do talk like an @sshole cop tho.

btw, for the record, I'm VERY VERY glad U'r not a cop. i can't imagine what a major PIA you would be as a cop.

Why because I want people to know the law and tell the truth! Yep what an asshole. Maybe I just tire of people needlessly giving out false information and statements(i.e. talking out of their fvcking ass). Lots of people on AT just post to fvcking run their mouth. They are not informed on their subject at all. Just because I am short with you on this site does not mean that I have a temper(I rarely if ever get upset or made at ANYONE regardless of what they do). I don't really have a temper at all. Secondly, I see nothing wrong with arrogance if you prove you are right and people still challenge you.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: brxndxn

Things are done differently in every country. Freedom is not the issue here. You being obsessed with the US is the issue.

Freedom is most definitely the issue when you get stopped at random after doing nothing wrong.

He says, "You were going 60, maybe 62 mph and this is a 45mph."

At this point, since I have been staring at the speedometer the whole time, I chimed in and said, "She was not speeding, sir. I was watching the speedometer the whole time and she never once passed 48mph. Can we go? Our Taco Bell is getting cold."

Right fvcking there you ADMITTED that she was speeding. Yet you were doing nothing wrong! Buzz...

The mandatory 10% over-read on the speedo can take care of that fella. Actual speed taken by a calibrated instrument would not show 48, more like 43-44. BUZZ.

There is no mandatory 10% over-read in the state of Florida. This is not the UK.

So you have a calibrated Speedo? No. So get a clue. The Radar will HAVE to be calibrated within a given time frame of the trap or it's evidence will not be valid. Your car WILL NOT read over your actual speed, but under. It will get closer to actual as the tyres wear, but will not show over speed readings, this would be illegal. So it is safe to say that you are not doing the indicated speed, but always under that speed. My point being, Brxndxn says 48, so what? Is that admissable? No. game over. Calibrated readings only, fella, game over.

And now we have that sorted out, tell me, why do you allow the errosion of your freedom? Do you enjoy free will and safety? I do and will fight every inch of the way to keep it. You can just roll over and get trodden on if you want, but sometimes you have got to make a stand, but if not, step aside and let those who care protect you from the evils you don't even want to acknowledge.

*yawns* I think everyone is quite aware of what impact tires have on the speedo as well as gears, and the frequent calibration needed for radar. Secondly, under 60 MPH most speedos are accurate to within a FEW percent here in the US. Search google if you want the info I read. I read it several years ago. Thirdly, you have much less freedom in the UK than I do here. I can own a firearm and you cannot. Don't even start on freedom because you have very little compared to me. Fourthly, a speedo can and WILL read over the actual limit is going. What is preventing it from doing so? God? Please I have raced cars for years now and when you go from 3.27 gears to 4.10s your speedo reads ABOVE actual speed.

1) You have more freedom than me? I can get out and talk to a cop without fearing that he will A) shoot me in the face cause I look at him funny or B) beat me to a pulp because he hasn't fvcked his wife in 2 months straight.

2) Only the type of firearm is restricted. If I want one lawfully I can get one. You are badly informed. Again.

3)Explain the 'extra' freedoms you have over a UK resident. (me=LMAO already)

4) See the bold text. So 48 read in probably 45 real, end of.

Ooooh your a racer too, great, really impressive. Ever driven a Countach? I have, but it doesn't make the fact that the cop was an ass any less than your sketchy rear end gearing knowledge does, does it?

1. No point was made. Just stupidity and rambling

2. Post a link. What kind can you get? What restrictions? Thanks. Put up or shut up!

3. Already did...

4. ??? Speak English please. BTW, my gear knowledge was dead on. Driving a Countach proves what? Oh that you can continue your lies. Wow, another liar. Do you want me to get the rear end gear calculator from the corral out and whoop your ass with it? I can prove to you FACTUALLY that a 4.10 forces a speedo to read higher than a 3.27 when it is not corrected.

1) Those Blinkers must hurt, give them a rest. Just ignoring the truth doesn't stop it being true

2) To placate your spoon-feed mentality, here is a
LINK

3) Guns. Is that it? I'm happy to be chastised then, LOL.

4) Again, read the bold text. Is that a properly constructed sentence? As for the rear end gearing crap, I couldn't give a waxed muff about it. The Lambo is for real, a 25th Aniversary model, previous owner was in a pop band and then went to my friends cousin. We took it out, we went fast and no bacon boys could catch us. Ahh, freedom and privilege, I like it. Suck it down donut boi.

Where can you buy a handgun on that site? You can't buy one period in the UK. You also don't have to have ANY type of license to buy a rifle or shotgun here. Thus, I have more freedom than you.

1. Again no point.
2. No point
3. Didn't prove your point.
4. Mindless drivel.

Good job. I aware you 0 points for your attempt.

 

[shoeeater]

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: tk149
Wow, lots of false information and strongly held opinions in this thread...

FYI, What Happens When I Am Stopped By The Police?

In a nutshell, the police can stop you for a short time and interrogate you if they have "Reasonable Suspicion" to believe that a crime is either taking place or will very shortly take place. Of course, the definition of "Reasonable Suspicion" is rather vague, but I think it's safe to say that it's not a very high hurdle for the police to clear in the courts.

Millenium, you need to go back and hit the books. Unless both my memory of law school and the above article are wrong, shoeeater was indeed subjected to an illegal search. According to my interpretation of his post, he was "Terry Stopped," and searched incident to the Terry Stop, which is legal. However, the police officer did not have the right to empty his pockets without actually arresting him (which would have required "Probable Cause").

Based on brxndxn's post (and only on his post, which no one has proven factually inaccurate, although I suspect it's somewhat biased ), I'd say that brxndxn may have done some foolish things, but the cop was a serious A-hole. Foolishness is not a crime, but harassment is.

LOL your idea of the Terry case is spaced out! Terry states that a frisk should be a protective measure. Police officers cannot conduct a frisk as a fishing expedition simply to try to find items BESIDES weapons, such as illegal narcotics on a suspect. A frisk does not allow the inner pockets to be turned out UNLESS there is suspicion that the outer frisk was unable to show what the item in the pocket was. What the officer did was completely legal.

I guess he must have assumes that everything in my pockets was something of interested including my wallet which he opened and checked. Please.....stop trying to argue points that dont work out for you. The plain and simple truth is that my rights were violated, Brxndxn's rights were violated. My question is why do you feel a personal need to try and prove us wrong?

 

[Mill]

brxndxn why did you need his badge number? Why not get his car number and tag? Oh, because you were intoxicated, mad and acting like a moron.

 

[SuperTool]

Now why do I carry a voice recorder and a camera in my car? What would posess me to do such a thing.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: shoeeater

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: tk149
Wow, lots of false information and strongly held opinions in this thread...

FYI, What Happens When I Am Stopped By The Police?

In a nutshell, the police can stop you for a short time and interrogate you if they have "Reasonable Suspicion" to believe that a crime is either taking place or will very shortly take place. Of course, the definition of "Reasonable Suspicion" is rather vague, but I think it's safe to say that it's not a very high hurdle for the police to clear in the courts.

Millenium, you need to go back and hit the books. Unless both my memory of law school and the above article are wrong, shoeeater was indeed subjected to an illegal search. According to my interpretation of his post, he was "Terry Stopped," and searched incident to the Terry Stop, which is legal. However, the police officer did not have the right to empty his pockets without actually arresting him (which would have required "Probable Cause").

Based on brxndxn's post (and only on his post, which no one has proven factually inaccurate, although I suspect it's somewhat biased ), I'd say that brxndxn may have done some foolish things, but the cop was a serious A-hole. Foolishness is not a crime, but harassment is.

LOL your idea of the Terry case is spaced out! Terry states that a frisk should be a protective measure. Police officers cannot conduct a frisk as a fishing expedition simply to try to find items BESIDES weapons, such as illegal narcotics on a suspect. A frisk does not allow the inner pockets to be turned out UNLESS there is suspicion that the outer frisk was unable to show what the item in the pocket was. What the officer did was completely legal.

I guess he must have assumes that everything in my pockets was something of interested including my wallet which he opened and checked. Please.....stop trying to argue points that dont work out for you. The plain and simple truth is that my rights were violated, Brxndxn's rights were violated. My question is why do you feel a personal need to try and prove us wrong?

You are a liar. You said the officer was convicted of 8 counts, yet Sarasota Circuit Court has no record. You can't get the case number and you don't know the officer's name. Why can you remember so many details except for the officer's name? Why do I want to prove you wrong? Because you are lying. You said that it was an internal investigation for criminal offenses yet the court weren't invovled. Maybe if your story was grounded in reality it would be believeable.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Now why do I carry a voice recorder and a camera in my car? What would posess me to do such a thing.

Because you are used to having the police knock down your doors in Russia? I wonder why.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Now why do I carry a voice recorder and a camera in my car? What would posess me to do such a thing.

Because you are used to having the police knock down your doors in Russia? I wonder why.

 

[LeeTJ]

Originally posted by: Millennium
brxndxn why did you need his badge number? Why not get his car number and tag? Oh, because you were intoxicated, mad and acting like a moron.

Is it illegal to be intoxicated and be a passenger in a car?? this point that he had been drinking was brought up several times as if it were something illegal, but why??

a passenger should NEVER admit to a cop that he/she had been drinking?? this is news to me.