Student arrested and turned over to INS

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Fenixgoon

Lifer
Jun 30, 2003
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Ya, I'm sure we need more Political science majors :D.

it would definitely help our scientific base. the majority of PhD students in engineering are foreign-born, if i'm not mistaken.

that is a huge asset of which we could take advantage. this is assuming these people want to stay here, of course.
 

dbk

Lifer
Apr 23, 2004
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We need tougher measures so that a girl like her would've been detected when she tried to enroll in elementary or secondary school. It shouldn't have taken this long, but I guess that'd be racial profiling. rrrrrright?
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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Heh. Gotta love the raving about uninsured motor vehicle operators.

First off, insurance is invalidated if the operator has no license. Just one of those tricky little details your insurance agent kinda forgot to mention, but it's there in the fine print.

Second, states who insist that auto insurance carry no-fault provisions nullify the whole argument, and is really what the public should insist upon from their own state legislators. If you pay for insurance, you're covered, even if the other guy has none. It's a helluva lot more effective to regulate insurance companies than to attempt to enforce insurance requirements on literally tens of millions of people who don't have any, citizens or not.

All of which is really peripheral to the issue at hand, but Righties will grasp at any straw to maintain denial, uphold their self righteous indignation, revel in what they think is some sort of moral superiority...

I think it's also important to realize that the Constitution was written in a time when there were no immigration laws, at least not in the US, no citizenship tests, no background checks, none of it. People got off the boat, declared themselves to be citizens of their new country, and they were.

I realize that times change, but it seems unlikely that the people who created and ratified the Constitution and the bill of rights would have favored our current way of determining who can and cannot immigrate. Anybody who's gone through it will tell you that it's designed mostly to prevent immigration rather than to facilitate it in any rational sort of way. That, and the fact that american business loves illegal labor are the reasons we have as many illegal immigrants as we do...

But, rave on- express your xenophobia and prejudice, justify it any way you can, try to forget that most of your ancestors were immigrants themselves...
 

spacejamz

Lifer
Mar 31, 2003
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Heh. Gotta love the raving about uninsured motor vehicle operators.

First off, insurance is invalidated if the operator has no license. Just one of those tricky little details your insurance agent kinda forgot to mention, but it's there in the fine print.

Second, states who insist that auto insurance carry no-fault provisions nullify the whole argument, and is really what the public should insist upon from their own state legislators. If you pay for insurance, you're covered, even if the other guy has none. It's a helluva lot more effective to regulate insurance companies than to attempt to enforce insurance requirements on literally tens of millions of people who don't have any, citizens or not.

All of which is really peripheral to the issue at hand, but Righties will grasp at any straw to maintain denial, uphold their self righteous indignation, revel in what they think is some sort of moral superiority...

I think it's also important to realize that the Constitution was written in a time when there were no immigration laws, at least not in the US, no citizenship tests, no background checks, none of it. People got off the boat, declared themselves to be citizens of their new country, and they were.

I realize that times change, but it seems unlikely that the people who created and ratified the Constitution and the bill of rights would have favored our current way of determining who can and cannot immigrate. Anybody who's gone through it will tell you that it's designed mostly to prevent immigration rather than to facilitate it in any rational sort of way. That, and the fact that american business loves illegal labor are the reasons we have as many illegal immigrants as we do...

But, rave on- express your xenophobia and prejudice, justify it any way you can, try to forget that most of your ancestors were immigrants themselves...

WTF is your point? She is driving without a license and no insurance. Why you are even remotely trying to defend that is beyond comprehension...
 

Jhhnn

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Nov 11, 1999
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WTF is your point? She is driving without a license and no insurance. Why you are even remotely trying to defend that is beyond comprehension...

I'm not, but then you can't see that, can't see beyond the axe you're trying to grind wrt her immigration status. Literally millions of people are operating motor vehicles without licenses or insurance coverage, but they usually just pay a fine for it, aren't used as whipping boys and girls for another agenda.

I also offered that your scenario of getting hit by an uninsured driver applies regardless of their citizenship and is a matter best taken up with your state govt, a problem they can actually solve if they're not in bed with the insurance companies, making a sex sandwich out of their citizens... or do you really think it's reasonable to pay for insurance that doesn't cover you in a fair % of possible scenarios, scenarios where you need it the most?
 

thegimp03

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Jul 5, 2004
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Meh, she was the one coming into the country illegally. I don't have any sympathy for her. Cya!
 

Jadow

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Feb 12, 2003
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since she was admitted, presumably an American was denied admittance to this school