Special Counsel Mueller has submitted his report to Attorney General Barr

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dainthomas

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Stzork was a cop with an agenda, he ended up being (properly) fired for it. The man despised Trump, and promised his mistress that Trump would never be elected. This is the same guy and mistress that discussed going easy on Hillary when he was investigating her.

We need to fire all cops who hate the criminals they're investigating.
 

brandonbull

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It is not disingenuous. The whole Russian Collusion thing was started by the intelligence community. The original investigation was started by the FBI and was headed by James Comey, a lifelong Republican.

Based on false information from Russia.
 
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fskimospy

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Based on false information from Russia.

No, based on being alerted by an Australian diplomat that a member of Trump's campaign was bragging about having inside information on the Russian government's work to help Trump win the election. This is all public knowledge, how can you not know this?

I have a guess, you probably consume a lot of conservative media that told you this. I hope you realize that the people who make that stuff think you're incredibly stupid and gullible.
 

soundforbjt

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No, based on being alerted by an Australian diplomat that a member of Trump's campaign was bragging about having inside information on the Russian government's work to help Trump win the election. This is all public knowledge, how can you not know this?

I have a guess, you probably consume a lot of conservative media that told you this. I hope you realize that the people who make that stuff think you're incredibly stupid and gullible.
And they seem to be correct in their assumption.
 

trenchfoot

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Trump heaps praise on guys like Putin and Kim, two of his all time favorite dictators.

I see him praising Barr in similar fashion and I get the same reaction as when he gave Putin and Kim that good 'ol male bonding hand job out of what he considers to be mutual respect and admiration. Doesn't this shithead realize that he is fooling no one but himself?

Trump thinks if he treats people like how he wants to be treated (glorification with zero sincerity behind it) then he'll get what he wants out of them. Yes, I really do believe he is that shallow minded via repeated example after example.

So now I wonder what kind of deal Barr is getting from Trump for him to demean and belittle himself the way he did.
 

woolfe9998

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Report is over 300 pages long. So much for the notion that there is literally no evidence of collusion, as opposed to what Mueller deems insufficient evidence for prosecution. What are the odds you open this report and it says, under the heading collusion, "nothing. nope. no evidence of collusion." Then goes on to analyze the evidence for obstruction in the all the remaining space. Because that is how Barr's summary reads.

I think what we're going to see in the report is extensive discussion of the relationship between Trump, his campaign, and the Russians, and an explanation for why Mueller doesn't think he can prove an illegal transaction beyond reasonable doubt. Said discussion will likely contain numerous unflattering observations about Trump's behavior. Trump not wanting anyone to see this is why the report's release is delayed. They're trying to figure out how to justify not showing us what Trump doesn't want us to see.
 

Jhhnn

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Other than providing information in an attempt to discredit Trump and providing "donations", nothing.

The Russian govt did what they could to help Trump get elected which was mostly sliming the living shit out of Hillary. Mere fact, laid out by our intelligence agencies, congressional committees & numerous analysts of several sorts. They didn't set out to help Hillary with anything other than losing.

They probably created about half of the stupid shit you believe in, too.
 

dbr1

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This is false on many levels.



2) there is not one single, solitary shred of evidence that Strzok engaged in ANY professional misconduct as it related to Trump. ZERO. This was confirmed by the DOJ. If you can’t show that then every other complaint is entirely irrelevant. Agree?


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018...ks-iphone-oig-recovers-19000-new-fbi-lovebird

The Justice Department's internal watchdog revealed on Thursday that special counsel Robert Mueller's office scrubbed all of the data from FBI agent Peter Strzok's iPhone, while his FBI mistress Lisa Page's phone had been scrubbed by a different department, according to a comprehensive report by the Office of the Inspector General (OIG) released on Thursday.
 

zinfamous

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Strzok was conflicted.

1. He hated Trump and wanted to bring him down.
2. He knew that what he was doing was likely unjustified and had doubts about proceeding.

Is that so hard to understand? The quotes are his own words, this is hardly an implausible conspiracy theory.

We can argue round and round on this stuff but it's obviously pointless, you and your fellow Trump collusion true believers will never concede no matter how stark the reality of the situation is: no indictments and no evidence of collusion. It's over, man.

Damn. Guess the Feds never should have convicted Capone because they hated him and wanted to bring him down.

...see how stupid you sound? It didn't even take long. Just step back for a minute and seriously ask yourself when and how it came to be that you started convincing yourself along the lines of seriously broken grade school logic. It's not a good look.
 

fskimospy

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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018...ks-iphone-oig-recovers-19000-new-fbi-lovebird

The Justice Department's internal watchdog revealed on Thursday that special counsel Robert Mueller's office scrubbed all of the data from FBI agent Peter Strzok's iPhone, while his FBI mistress Lisa Page's phone had been scrubbed by a different department, according to a comprehensive report by the Office of the Inspector General (OIG) released on Thursday.

lol zerohedge. This explains a lot about how you buy all these other insane conspiracy theories though, haha. BUY GOLD.

You'll notice from that article that there's not a single, solitary instance mentioned where Strzok took an improper step in the investigation into Trump. Thanks for proving me right!
 

zinfamous

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Stzork was a cop with an agenda, he ended up being (properly) fired for it. The man despised Trump, and promised his mistress that Trump would never be elected. This is the same guy and mistress that discussed going easy on Hillary when he was investigating her.

Or, the simplest explanation is that a guy with decade+ experience investigating graft, corruption, and mobsters actually has a real history and knowledge of Trump, that certainly is of no consequence to you, and has a far, far, far more informed opinion of a person like Trump than any of us do. This would have all been targeted before the Orange Sponge ever considered running for president. ....why then, would this informed history of investigation suddenly change things about the near-certainty of his criminal history?

I don't know why you guys seriously go out of your ways to convince yourselves via arguments that you never would have supported a mere 5 years ago. It's like the entire history of law enforcement, investigation, and justice just suddenly doesn't matter for this specific issue, for some undisclosed reason.

You are literally arguing for the expungement of essentially the entire history of federal prosecutions because you suddenly believe in some newly-established "bias against criminals doing criminal things" violation that never existed.
 

zinfamous

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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018...ks-iphone-oig-recovers-19000-new-fbi-lovebird

The Justice Department's internal watchdog revealed on Thursday that special counsel Robert Mueller's office scrubbed all of the data from FBI agent Peter Strzok's iPhone, while his FBI mistress Lisa Page's phone had been scrubbed by a different department, according to a comprehensive report by the Office of the Inspector General (OIG) released on Thursday.

ah, zerohedge. This is one of the many reasons why you post dumb things.
 

kage69

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Schiff had a powerful response to GOP members on the Intel Cmte. asking for his resignation:

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4788305/intelligence-committee-chair-pushes-back-gop-calls-resign (fast forward to 3:18)

Consider this...they are asking for his resignation without any ethics probes or any evidence of misconduct by Schiff. Their stunt is part of the attempted cover-up.

Owned.

That was a polite and professional way to tell a bunch of traitors they can eat a bag of Russian dicks
 
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zinfamous

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Report is over 300 pages long. So much for the notion that there is literally no evidence of collusion, as opposed to what Mueller deems insufficient evidence for prosecution. What are the odds you open this report and it says, under the heading collusion, "nothing. nope. no evidence of collusion." Then goes on to analyze the evidence for obstruction in the all the remaining space. Because that is how Barr's summary reads.

I think what we're going to see in the report is extensive discussion of the relationship between Trump, his campaign, and the Russians, and an explanation for why Mueller doesn't think he can prove an illegal transaction beyond reasonable doubt. Said discussion will likely contain numerous unflattering observations about Trump's behavior. Trump not wanting anyone to see this is why the report's release is delayed. They're trying to figure out how to justify not showing us what Trump doesn't want us to see.

So it only took 48 hours and a 5 page summary from a single pair of eyes to accurately summarize a 300 page report of a 2 year-long investigation that included 3? grand juries, dozens of seasoned investigators, 34 indictments, 3 convictions (so far) and at least 2 guilty pleas.

yep, sounds legit.
 

UNCjigga

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Story is sourced from OIG report. Look it up. https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2018/i-2018-003523.pdf

I just read it, and both Page and Strzok's iPhones were scrubbed AFTER they turned in their devices when their assignments were terminated.

Where is the improper conduct again?
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Maxima1

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Report is over 300 pages long. So much for the notion that there is literally no evidence of collusion, as opposed to what Mueller deems insufficient evidence for prosecution. What are the odds you open this report and it says, under the heading collusion, "nothing. nope. no evidence of collusion." Then goes on to analyze the evidence for obstruction in the all the remaining space. Because that is how Barr's summary reads.

I think what we're going to see in the report is extensive discussion of the relationship between Trump, his campaign, and the Russians, and an explanation for why Mueller doesn't think he can prove an illegal transaction beyond reasonable doubt. Said discussion will likely contain numerous unflattering observations about Trump's behavior. Trump not wanting anyone to see this is why the report's release is delayed. They're trying to figure out how to justify not showing us what Trump doesn't want us to see.

That could be disappointing, but it at least likely isn't flattering. That's kind of short. The Starr report had over 400+. The inspector General report over the buttery emails was 500+. It would be lengthy if it's substantially about the "conspiracy" prong (not more broadly about "collusion") of the investigation and obstruction. The probe could have been narrowly focused, so hopefully this isn't the end and a lot was farmed out. There's a lot of worrisome stuff like not getting Donnie under oath, no more indictments (e.g. what happened with Corsi, etc.), treating the closest to Donnie with kid gloves, etc.
 

dbr1

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I just thought it was funny that you read zerohedge.

BUY GOLD.

Thank you for mentioning the IG report though as it clearly states that Strzok made no improper investigatory decisions towards Trump. You quoted something that explicitly points out that you're insane.
LOL. You can't win the arguments so resort to absurd personal attacks.

If the OIG found that key evidence regarding Strzok was destroyed, your argument that there was no evidence found against him is significantly less convincing.