Aww... So cute. I confess to a grudging admiration for Trump. He's the greatest mind fuck artist this country has ever produced. His uncanny prowess as a con artist is nothing short of astounding. He chumped 62M Americans into making him Prez. Some of 'em still believe & some of them always will. It has a solid foundation on layers of right wing disinformation & agitprop laid down for decades, too. Poor bastards couldn't think straight if their lives depended on it.
Aww... So cute. I confess to a grudging admiration for Trump. He's the greatest mind fuck artist this country has ever produced. His uncanny prowess as a con artist is nothing short of astounding. He chumped 62M Americans into making him Prez. Some of 'em still believe & some of them always will. It has a solid foundation on layers of right wing disinformation & agitprop laid down for decades, too. Poor bastards couldn't think straight if their lives depended on it.
Never said it was an actual witch hunt. I'm stating that Trump will use it to run with HIS narrative of "witch hunt"
As far as his son - if it's been publicly proven why hasn't he been indicted by this investigation? Seems open and shut, no?
Without having seen the results of this investigation though - What PRECISELY can you cite as impeachable? Understand what serious implications impeachment is - So if your answer is paying off a hooker, that's honestly laughable. See my post below, I would love to see Trump gone - but I don't live in a unicorn fart pixie dust land.
Damning for the people indicted? absolutely. Damning for his overall campaign? Yeah, definitely leaning that way.
Damning enough to charge Trump (as an individual) in a court of law? Sadly not. Again, didn't vote for the douche. I'm fine with charging him and impeaching him. But sadly I haven't seen anything thus far to do such. I honestly hope that such is found.
You don't know that. It's all based on this-
You know, some guy in the DoJ with a title.
We really shouldn't read too much into any of it. Don't go all chicken little on us, OK?
trenchfoot
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If anything, this moment in time is a test for Barr, his integrity, his reputation, his morals and ethics......if he has any of it left to show that is.
Whether he tries to do a tap dance on the fence or tries to miraculously keep his honor while shielding Trump from the damage he might suffer from the report, it's pretty much Barr's choices that is going to define him in the annals of history.
The pressure that Donny Dipshit is applying on him must be pretty damn hysterical at the moment.
Whether he tries to do a tap dance on the fence or tries to miraculously keep his honor while shielding Trump from the damage he might suffer from the report, it's pretty much Barr's choices that is going to define him in the annals of history.
The pressure that Donny Dipshit is applying on him must be pretty damn hysterical at the moment.
I think all the Trump associates heading to prison probably don’t think it’s as funny, haha.
HomerJS
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Siding with Putin over your country seems treason like and falls into the category of high misdemeanor. That's just one thing.
In his own words he fired the director of the FBI because he wouldn’t stop investigating one of his associates.
That is so far over the line of what is impeachable. So insanely far.
Indus
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Nazis?
We didn't kill Heather Heyer unlike you Trumpers.
Ignore and Cherry pick away if you want.
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trenchfoot
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So an MSNBC panel has come up with the idea that if this report exonerates Trump as the Repubs have been proudly and loudly pointing out, then surely they would not object to having the full report released showing precisely why Trump is off the hook.
Makes sense to me. I hope all Trump supporters feel the same way. heh
Makes sense to me. I hope all Trump supporters feel the same way. heh
Indus
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He may not have to worry about congress impeaching him but he still has to deal with the Trump Org crimes in SDNY and NYS courts of law and then worry about 2020.
trenchfoot
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Then it is what it is. I'd have no problem with that at all. Multiple convictions/indictments/co-opt's of Trump 's close associates have already occurred and there are more of Trump's supporters to be prosecuted.
The follow-up investigations over at SDNY and Congress should flesh out any other incidents of criminality perpetrated by those other Trump supporters that haven't had a chance to stand tall in front of a judge.
With all of those Trump guys being convicted and turned, logically you'd think Trump, being the micromanaging guy that he is, maybe had a little to do with all of that, wouldn't you? And wouldn't you be the least skeptical at how Trump and family have been so suspiciously evasive to the point of lying to Congress to hide whatever it is they feel the need to?
Now that the Repubs have lost the ability to shield Trump from any and all real digging into his affairs of business and state, don't you feel that every piece of pertinent evidence should be discovered and made public to show that Trump is clear of any and all accusations just like how Repubs are saying the Mueller report has done?
The process is ongoing. Whatever it reveals, with the exception of whatever the Trump clan and the Repubs are successful at trying to hide from the view of the people, is, like I mentioned, what it is.
From a scan of the headlines, the thrust from the right media and facebook trolls so far seems to be (with the usual blithe disregard for inherent contradiction) that the yet unseen Mueller report:
a) Completely exonerates Trump and everyone in his orbit,
b) Was a complete waste of time and taxpayer dollars that never should have happened,
c) Is the product of a partisan witch hunt by Democrats and nothing in it should be believed.
I suspect (b) and especially (c) to be amplified commensurate with whatever information trickles out
Actually, what I would like to see is that Barr hold a press conference tomorrow, say that he's disgusted to have accepted the job appointment from that traitor, and that he's personally appointing Rosenstein the acting AG, regardless of whether that's a thing he has the right to do. Then Rosenstein steps up, says that Mueller was more of a stickler for policy than him, indictments are a go, and everyone should go outside to watch the parade of FBI vehicles headed to the White House.
A report is nice and all, but there are better things in the world.
Not to say that I'm expecting that...
a) Completely exonerates Trump and everyone in his orbit,
b) Was a complete waste of time and taxpayer dollars that never should have happened,
c) Is the product of a partisan witch hunt by Democrats and nothing in it should be believed.
I suspect (b) and especially (c) to be amplified commensurate with whatever information trickles out
Actually, what I would like to see is that Barr hold a press conference tomorrow, say that he's disgusted to have accepted the job appointment from that traitor, and that he's personally appointing Rosenstein the acting AG, regardless of whether that's a thing he has the right to do. Then Rosenstein steps up, says that Mueller was more of a stickler for policy than him, indictments are a go, and everyone should go outside to watch the parade of FBI vehicles headed to the White House.
A report is nice and all, but there are better things in the world.
Not to say that I'm expecting that...
Vic
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Which party was it that intentionally opened the floodgates to those massive amounts of money? Hint: Citizens United is a Republican party organization.
I've no doubt that you believe yourself to be party-neutral and anti-corruption, but the reality is that your tactics only serve to increase partisanship and with it, corruption. For example, this thread is about Trump's corruption, but your responses in this thread have been to distract from Trump's corruption by whatabout-ing to Hillary, using the partisan logic that if Hillary's corruption went unpunished, therefore Trump's corruption must go unpunished as well. And thus, partisanship becomes an excuse for corruption, and both get worse, thanks in small part to you.
Likewise, when there is a discussion about the rise of racism in right wing circles, led by right wing media, as there was in a different thread recently, you attempt to silence that discussion by falsely claiming that the discussion itself is an attempt at censorship. Or in other words, you're the one trying to censor speech you don't like.
So with all this, I hope you can understand that I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt when I call you a useful idiot.
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kage69
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It's pretty funny to hear the trumpets do this for the 8th or 9th time, this declaration of vindication even though they don't know what they're talking about, let alone even seen what they're talking about.
Meanwhile, Il Douche has been uncharacteristically silent. Strange for such an unhinged braggart with no shame to do, what with him usually being the first to completely miss what's going on and declare victory. It's almost like there's a team of lawyers translating reality to him with as few syllables as possible. Feels like 'You're still fucked' probably got through.
Meanwhile, Il Douche has been uncharacteristically silent. Strange for such an unhinged braggart with no shame to do, what with him usually being the first to completely miss what's going on and declare victory. It's almost like there's a team of lawyers translating reality to him with as few syllables as possible. Feels like 'You're still fucked' probably got through.
HomerJS
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Trump has the authority to release the entire report. If its exculpitory he would release. If its damning he won't. It's that simple.
trenchfoot
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Yep, it'll all get shoved over to the USSC via the Dem's House leaders protests, where Trump's handpicked supporters will try their very best to give Trump every break possible even to the point where they will make McConnell look like a petty thief in comparison.
MomentsofSanity
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Nadler just shared that he has received a “very brief letter” from Barr that will be shared shortly.
Edit: looks like it’s a 4-5 page summary on the principle findings. That’s it.
Edit: looks like it’s a 4-5 page summary on the principle findings. That’s it.
zinfamous
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You do realize, don't you, that the foundation of your argument is that "observable things that exist do not exist."
How do you think really works out for you?
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